Guild Wars 2

Yup, Condi revenants currently have TOO much, they need some things taken away or the damage gutted.

While I do think some classes access to burn still needs to be looked at, along with Deathly chill being changed back to what it used to be (half dmg above 50% health) condi isn’t much of an issue. The only classes that commonly run condi are Rev and Reaper, while everyone else is power or hybrid, of which druid and scrapper still do far more power based damage than condi in their cele builds.

The elite specs, along with rev in general need nerfs as a whole, with the exception of DD and Berserker, including the primarily power based specs like DH and Chrono, so complaining about the only two useful condi builds is pretty pointless.

Some of the people complaining on these forums, although not specifically this thread, even go as far to say that bleed, poison, and torment are just as bad as burn or chill right now. At that point its just a L2P issue, because Torment and Poison are fine, and Bleed needs a damage boost if anything.

Power is instant dmg, while condi isn’t, so if one of the two should be partially countered by a stat, then it should be power. If they were both countered in the same ways, then it would make taking the skills that do damage over time instead of instantly, pointless. I’m fine with weakness and protection affecting condi damage , although anet may as well remove resistance if that happens, or it would be too big of a nerf. People complaining that they should be able to continuously cleanse conditions to the point where it is barely damaging them is like asking for a 20 second endure pain to use against power builds. Conditions are a form of damage just like power and should be just as good, while anyone fighting a condi build should have to know when to cleanse and when to save cleanses just as you would save your blocks or evades for a power builds burst.

Btw, Jon Peters comment was mostly in regards to burning damage. There were as many complaints on the forums about burning damage and insane power burst some classes could pull off the week the June patch came out as there are complaints about pvp leagues now.