How dare you (Anet) giving those guinea pigs wield Legendary weapon they dont even play pve you know, they pvp hard and get skilled (dem feelers) in a so called competition.
How dare you merging spvp to pve/wvw, they hardcore spvp players they are skilled enough to do pve/wvw its an insult to us who play 3game mode
yes mispedia host it, and you guys support them stop hiding in another shadow.
Alas its been officially announce, to those participant fairwind may you achieve true competition and skilled competitive play. (let sarcasm bite)
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Between a master and apprentice, i would love to see the differences.
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
After reading your posts on this matter, it disgusts me that you’re on the same server, I’d be happy to personally educate you in the skill difference between Wv3 and PvP any time.
[Zeus] Guild ~ Desolation. Not some silly muffin thing, stop stalking me Dhiania!
Wow, there is many people against the idea of rewarding the top PvP players of each region with legendaries. But I agree that these players should get an awesome selection of new legendary weapons so we can distinguish them from the normal legendaries weapons that most people get through PvE, which I think they are not worth that much nowadays. Wait, even a better idea(in my opinion), they get to design their own legendary skin with the Anet art team. Wouldn’t that be awesome?
A quick and easy compromise is that we could lightly alter the legendary weapons awarded the the top PvP team (Changing Aura effect/color, footsteps, sound effect, weapon’s color?)
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
I bet everyone over rank 50 has pvp’d more than youv’e pve’d and we have almost nothing to show for our efforts in this game.
Anet finally shows a shed of love to less than .1% of the pvp community with a decent reward and people are already whining about it?
Classy.
I disagree.
Real love would actually be a unique skin only available to the top three or so teams in the tournament.
Legendaries should be available, but not as a prize. They should be something everyone can principally work towards. For a proper prize, what should be done is they should make special skins with slight variations for the position awarded to them (1st place should be gold, second place silver and third place a bronze-like sort of color.
That, would be a real prize. Imagine you are one of five people amongst hundreds of thousands accessing this skin? Can you beat such a prestige? Can you be more exclusive than that?
lol at everyone complaining about the legendaries, it takes 200 hours to farm 1 in pve, it takes 1000s of hours to be the best at pvp, maybe this will encourage more people to actually pvp, i have noticed the queue times are a lot faster recently.
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
After reading your posts on this matter, it disgusts me that you’re on the same server, I’d be happy to personally educate you in the skill difference between Wv3 and PvP any time.
After thinking about it, Yes this is a good reward and deserved. Pre-congrats to those PvPers who win. Enjoy your free legendary or gold you get from selling it.
My first posts on this were done out of my passion for this game and my frustration with the loot system. I hate so very VERY much how one person can throw 4 random rares and get a precusor on the first try and someone else like me plays for thousands of hours, throws countless numbers of items in the forge and gets nothing but crap.
I personally think PvP is ruining the PvE experience because a whole lot of the skill balancing is done with PvP in mind and not what PvErs have to deal with. PvP “mobs” are not huge bags of health so what does it matter if crit damage is changed or conditions are nerfed. “What’s good for PvP is good for everyone.” is not true….but I expect this sort of attitude from this part of the forums.
Again, pre-grats to the winners and good luck to all the participants.
I personally think PvP is ruining the PvE experience because a whole lot of the skill balancing is done with PvP in mind and not what PvErs have to deal with. PvP “mobs” are not huge bags of health so what does it matter if crit damage is changed or conditions are nerfed. “What’s good for PvP is good for everyone.” is not true….but I expect this sort of attitude from this part of the forums.
Both crit damage and condition damage is capped differently in PvE/WvW and PvP.
Opponents you speak of are living, breathing human beings. The reason mobs in PvE are huge bags of health is because they are dumber then a newborn child, and “trick” in defeating even the hardest ones is memorizing their telegraphs (and if you have a guardian in the group, most of the times you can just stand there and spam your rotation). Therefore they need artificial difficulty (hard hitting, huge HP) to provide at least a bit of a challenge for players.
I do however agree that AI needs to be drastically upgraded, and if/when that happens I’m sure that ANet will dispose of the ridiculous mob HP.
But then, instead of Q_Q about PvP-ers being rewarded for skill we’d have allot more complaints about PvE-ers wanting to play the game as they like and not being able to faceroll keyboard to experience entirety of content (and win), like we’ve seen oh so many times before on these forums.
EDIT: And I also agree that, in this particular situation of being terribad and not willing to improve, what’s best for PvP is definitely not the best for PvE.
Ok ok. So PvP gets one of the best reward ever in the game. There’s no other reward in either PvE or WvW that has ever come close to this. It’s nice but pretty ridiculous when you think about it. I can probably understand a choice of a precursor for first place but just getting the legendary itself is overwhelming disappointing for people who don’t PvP.
PVP has no good rewards at all for 1.5 years.
Casuals and pvekitten.lovers should stop whining for every single thing that they can’t get.
No offense to whoever came up with this idea but in my honest opinion its very bad and not very thoroughly thought through. The winners should not be awarded with general stuff like legendary weapons or precursors but uniquely designed weapons which will be obtainable only through this tournament.
I think everyone would be more than happy with that solution.
First off, I enjoy all game modes pretty equally, and have played a decent amount in all (although admittedly I would consider my order as wvw > pvp > pve). To all of those people saying that you can just grind a champ train for 200 hours and get a legendary that takes no skill… I challenge you to go out and do that and see how long it will actually take you if you want to do that method of obtaining a legendary. Getting it the real way takes ~ 6 months of playing every day for at least 5 hours. As a predominantly WvW player myself, I make as little money (and arguably less) than a pvp player. So stop complaining about your rewards when WvW players spend every copper that they earn upgrading keeps and camps, and repairing their armor from their countless deaths. You think your rewards are bad, try becoming a dedicated wvw player who pays for superior siege and upgrades constantly. I have to grind dungeons to pay for my WvW habit. You don’t actually need money to play your game mode of choice.
In my opinion the reward should be different. As a person who has played a decent amount of pvp, (10 wins from champ phantom, ~40 from champ paragon) I completely understand that this isn’t going to be “easy” and no one is just going to drop into this tournament and randomly win. The players who win this will be very skilled indeed. I think the difference is that these players spent their time doing what they wanted only, and now are getting the rewards that the rest of us had to go out and do stuff that we didn’t want to do to get.
I think the rewards should absolutely be prestigious. The winners should get completely unique skins that only they can get. I think that would make them happy since it is considered very prestigious, and shows off the work that they have done, and still keeps everyone who got legendaries the standard way happy as well.
This is an equal opportunity tournament. Those that focus on PvE and WvW are absolutely welcome to sign up. This is not a PvE vs. PvP situation. What’s good for PvP is good for everyone.
And to clarify on a few things:
This tournament is being hosted by Mistpedia, similarly to the way PAX was done with Mist League. I have faith that Sireph, Blu, Shadowplasm, and their team will do a fantastic job, and we will be supporting them throughout the tournament. In hindsight, I should have emphasized that in the blog. Sorry about that!
There are going to be two tournaments. One for EU, and the following for NA. This means five Legendaries per region.
For those that don’t think they can compete in the tournament, you can also just tune in for a chance to win some shinies. No, we’ll not be giving viewers Legendaries, but it will definitely be worth watching.
Let’s hug it out!
I was very much against the tournament rewards at first and was going to voice my opinion against them, but after holding my thoughts in for a while and further considering it I now feel like it’s a pretty good idea after all.
I’m am by no means an sPvP player myself (rank 6 and haven’t played maps released after the ones the game launched with) but I can appreciate giving dedicated PvP players a chance at gaining something rare* to show for their effort. Which brings me to my next point — would it be possible for ANet to consider sponsoring similar rewards for tournaments organized in other game modes, such as a community organized Guild vs. Guild league in WvW (just an example)?
I’m sure there’s something that could be done with PvE as well, but I’m drawing blanks here since I don’t participate in that game mode myself.
*Not speaking about something literally rare like WvW tournament rewards (excuse the pun, it was of poor quality… like the rewards we’re used to. Okay, no more of that)
The players who will win this tournament SURELY have spent 100s of hours perfecting their craft and strategies, without earning legendaries for it in the process.
We are tipping our hats to those that have put the time and dedication into PvP, and have earned this as a reward.
We’re not just handing them out.
There are a lot of people who have put in 100s of hours into pvp, but just are not one of the top 5 players.
EU – Multiple times #1 SoloQ pre Dec 2014 (pure MMR based ladder)
Primoridal (S1) & Exalted (S2) & Illustrious (S3) Legend
Really? A legendary for winning a single tournament while others have to farm 100s of hours for one? Disgusting. Guess Anet only knows extremes with rewards, either almost nothing or precursors/legendaries lol.
There are a vast amount of rewards in the Tourney. Also why cant Spvpers get a reward such as this? The top end competitive teams deserve some love imho. I for one am glad to see it.
They spend hours a day playing, creating tactics streaming for the community. To get a reward that is so unique is deserved.
If people have a issue with it there is nothing stopping them from entering themselves to win one.
My first posts on this were done out of my passion for this game and my frustration with the loot system. I hate so very VERY much how one person can throw 4 random rares and get a precusor on the first try and someone else like me plays for thousands of hours, throws countless numbers of items in the forge and gets nothing but crap.
Seems to me that this is the crux of the matter, because you have had bad luck, and that nobody should get something you don’t have because you think they are getting it easy – having to win your way through a PvP tournament against top teams is far from easy.
With your experience in GW2, you know full well by now that anything forge related is RNG as well as champ/boss/mob drops. If you don’t like RNG, you’re in the wrong game. Complaining about RNG in an RNG based game is a whisper in a hurricane.
I personally think PvP is ruining the PvE experience because a whole lot of the skill balancing is done with PvP in mind and not what PvErs have to deal with. PvP “mobs” are not huge bags of health so what does it matter if crit damage is changed or conditions are nerfed. “What’s good for PvP is good for everyone.” is not true….but I expect this sort of attitude from this part of the forums.
I don’t think you understand that PvE & Wv3 work differently from PvP, the same changes are not applied across the board, there are many modifications that have been made for PvP that have not been applied at all elsewhere, so no, it’s not even a case of “what’s good for pvp is good for everyone”.
Having some semblance of understanding in the game you play would help a great deal in your arguments.
[Zeus] Guild ~ Desolation. Not some silly muffin thing, stop stalking me Dhiania!
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
You make it sound like they are giving it away to everyone.
They’re giving it to the 5 best players in the tournament, so they’re rewarding it to the most skilled.
You don’t understand, Vol. 5 of the best pvp’ers are unworthy to receiver a legendary. They are not worthy unless you join champ zergs for hundreds of hours. That is the only way to be worthy of a legendary because others are not good at pvp kitten kitten kitten kitten .
I thank you for not acknowledging the fact that we (my team and I) have played this game since release, through thick and thin, and kept on playing since then, have played all tournaments and practiced for it in the past 6 month and still playing the game daily (which team can say that they held together in the past 6 months and are ready to play this game 5 more years together), with the exception of ONE esl, while the incentive to spend time playing the game have dwindled, as well as trying to keep players interested to play pvp through Iisey’s project. Thank you very much.
After working my tail off since pre-launch to be able to make two legendaries myself I’m pretty disgusted at them just giving away a legendary weapon.
You make it sound like they are giving it away to everyone.
They’re giving it to the 5 best players in the tournament, so they’re rewarding it to the most skilled.
You don’t understand, Vol. 5 of the best pvp’ers are unworthy to receiver a legendary. They are not worthy unless you join champ zergs for hundreds of hours. That is the only way to be worthy of a legendary because others are not good at pvp kitten kitten kitten kitten .
I thank you for not acknowledging the fact that we (my team and I) have played this game since release, through thick and thin, and kept on playing since then, have played all tournaments and practiced for it in the past 6 month and still playing the game daily (which team can say that they held together in the past 6 months and are ready to play this game 5 more years together), with the exception of ONE esl, while the incentive to spend time playing the game have dwindled, as well as trying to keep players interested to play pvp through Iisey’s project. Thank you very much.
This is an equal opportunity tournament. Those that focus on PvE and WvW are absolutely welcome to sign up. This is not a PvE vs. PvP situation. What’s good for PvP is good for everyone.
And to clarify on a few things:
This tournament is being hosted by Mistpedia, similarly to the way PAX was done with Mist League. I have faith that Sireph, Blu, Shadowplasm, and their team will do a fantastic job, and we will be supporting them throughout the tournament. In hindsight, I should have emphasized that in the blog. Sorry about that!
There are going to be two tournaments. One for EU, and the following for NA. This means five Legendaries per region.
For those that don’t think they can compete in the tournament, you can also just tune in for a chance to win some shinies. No, we’ll not be giving viewers Legendaries, but it will definitely be worth watching.
Let’s hug it out!
When you say that Mist League has hosted PAX 10.000$ tournament, you mean mistleague gave the 10.000$ they had to the PAX tournament for the cashprize ?
MMORPG.COM sponsored the cash prize for the PAX tournament. Mist League hosted the tournament like Mistpedia and ESL hosts weekly tournaments.
For the time being, it seems that having a chance of obtaining pve weaps will be as close to ‘prestige’ in GW2 pvp as it gets.
I do wonder though what gvg had been like, if GW1 had handed out crystaline swords or serpent/tribal axes instead of gold trims (and later on rps) for tournament victories.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Somehow it feels totally wrong.
Anyhow, gl to whoever is still playing!
P.S. Seeing the pve crowd cry over it is rather amusing, especially because not many seem to have realized that previous tpvp rewards (gems) were kinda better. Ill-implemented, but better.
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