Unranked needs fixing

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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

Yashuoa.9527

The way the mmr is designed in here does NOT work.

People of all MMR ranges, are matched together in here.
Basically someone with a really low mmr can be in the same team as someone with a really high mmr, as long as team A has the same combined MMR (if you combine mmr of all players in the team) as team B .

This does not work.

People with way to different goals, are matched together.

Example:

Someone with low mmr just wants to join for the lolz. Ignores bases. Doesnt care about them (I am not saying that all low mmr ppl do this, but generally, people with very wide mmr ranges, can have different ways of plays, intentions, strategies etc, which can make teamwork between these very different mmr groups more difficult, raise more issues).
Someone with a high mmr tries to win the game, but has a teammate who doesnt go for objectives.

People with way to different mmr range gets matched together skill wise.

Example:

Someone new to the game, with a low mmr, enters the match and faces experienced players with high mmr who can beat this person quite easily.
Not fun for either side.

These are just some of the issues.
Feel free to share others.

It would be better for unranked if the mmr ranges between players are less wide.

Even if it would make ques a little longer, I would prefer this.

Please share your view.

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Posted by: Supreme.3164

Supreme.3164

4 Years of anet…and people still complain, you will have better luck trying to grow money on tree than MMr working in gw2

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Op let’s me ask you this question.. how often do you play per week?

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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

Yashuoa.9527

Op let’s me ask you this question.. how often do you play per week?

That varies a lot.
At times zero to like a couple games a week.
At times several games a day or just the daily.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Op let’s me ask you this question.. how often do you play per week?

That varies a lot.
At times zero to like a couple games a week.
At times several games a day or just the daily.

That’s the problem op. As I see it, MMR is not static. So let’s say this week you played with players whom have the same MMR as you do. Next week, you … brb I’ll finish my paragraph later.

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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

Yashuoa.9527

Op let’s me ask you this question.. how often do you play per week?

That varies a lot.
At times zero to like a couple games a week.
At times several games a day or just the daily.

That’s the problem op. As I see it, MMR is not static. So let’s say this week you played with players whom have the same MMR as you do. Next week, you … brb I’ll finish my paragraph later.

I know that mmr is not static as in that it goes up if you win and goes down if you lose.

Not sure what you are getting at though.
Ill await the rest of your paragraph.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Op let’s me ask you this question.. how often do you play per week?

That varies a lot.
At times zero to like a couple games a week.
At times several games a day or just the daily.

That’s the problem op. As I see it, MMR is not static. So let’s say this week you played with players whom have the same MMR as you do. Next week, you … brb I’ll finish my paragraph later.

I know that mmr is not static as in that it goes up if you win and goes down if you lose.

Not sure what you are getting at though.
Ill await the rest of your paragraph.

The new mmr doesn’t only account for your MMR but also the number of games played in each category. So your MMR might be very high,however because you don’t have a lot of games played (let’s say in unrank); The system will match against folks by factueing all that in.

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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

Yashuoa.9527

Op let’s me ask you this question.. how often do you play per week?

That varies a lot.
At times zero to like a couple games a week.
At times several games a day or just the daily.

That’s the problem op. As I see it, MMR is not static. So let’s say this week you played with players whom have the same MMR as you do. Next week, you … brb I’ll finish my paragraph later.

I know that mmr is not static as in that it goes up if you win and goes down if you lose.

Not sure what you are getting at though.
Ill await the rest of your paragraph.

The new mmr doesn’t only account for your MMR but also the number of games played in each category. So your MMR might be very high,however because you don’t have a lot of games played (let’s say in unrank); The system will match against folks by factueing all that in.

I dont see how my personal situation is relevant for this topic, high or low mmr, amount of games etc.

As far as I know, in unranked it pairs per team combined mmr.

The mmr of all 5 members of team A combined, has to be roughly the same as the mmr of all 5 members of team B combined.
Meaning in team A or B can be people with really high mmr and really low mmr, as long as they have the same mmr combined as the other team.

Example:
Team A has 5 people.
Member 1: 10 mmr.
Member 2: 75 mmr.
Member 3: 125 mmr.
Member 4: 200 mmr.
Member 5: 90 mmr.
Together: 500 mmr.

Now it will find members in team B to have a combined 500 mmr there too.
However team A has someone with 10 mmr and someone with 200 mmr.
(Numbers are just chosen to explain the mmr differences issue. Dont know the numbers exactly as mmr is hidden).

Meaning people with huge mmr differences can be together in a team.
Meaning people with huge mmr differences can be against each other.
Even if we also take matches played into account, than someone with low amount of matches played can be paired up with someone with high amount of matches played, so that doesnt really change the issues that I bring in.

That is something about unranked that I do not find to be a good system for reasons explained. Correct me if wrong, but this is how I understand that unranked mmr works.

In ranked it is different as I understand (at least will be in season 2).
Where it will pair you with people closer to your own mmr and league.

Now I am not saying make unranked the same as ranked mmr wise (not league wise either).

I am just asking for unranked to have less differences in mmr between teammates and opponents than it currently has. Because the mmr differences between teammates and opponents can be to large.

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