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HUUURP DURRRRP

Literally this entire thread is filled with people who haven’t played warrior for more than 25 seconds. They lack basic gameplay and skill knowledge and it’s insanely apparent. Hurt my brain to read it more so than typing that sentence.

Furajir.3815:

HEY GAIZ WARIUR IZ OH PEE BECAZ TEY R ENVENCIBUL 99 PURCENT EF DA TIM UND DEY LUTERALLY 1 SHOOT YU END AR SIRIOUSLEE OHH PEE

HUUURP DURRRRP

Literally this entire thread is filled with people who haven’t played warrior for more than 25 seconds. They lack basic gameplay and skill knowledge and it’s insanely apparent. Hurt my brain to read it more so than typing that sentence.

The fitting irony is that if they fought a warrior for about 25 seconds, he would be out of CDs and they would probably stomp him outright on their own 1v1.

Not even going to mention the ‘condi-meta’ floating about gets absolutely shrekt by CC-opener (Thief +1) outside of Berserk.

With the countless tells a Warrior gives off, there’s plenty of counterplay already involved, and truthfully, going to be real here. People just can’t admit they got outplayed by a Warrior, they dodged something like a Pommel or an autoattack that they didn’t need to. It’s pretty clear at this point.

Hell,
https://www.reddit.com/r/gw2esports/comments/4jtix5/10_pvp_tips_vs_berserker/

Go inform yourselves.

Kharr.5746:

This thread is a joke, right? The build you’re defending was already competitive and many warriors were able to get to Legendary in S1 and S2 with it, even by solo Q. Sure, there were more “optimal” professions in ESL, but warrior was no slouch.

Then, Anet nerfed the hell out of Reaper, Scrapper, Mesmer, Druid, Tempest, Revenant and ignorantly buffed a build on warrior that was already very strong.

Even without the buff to warrior, this particular build would be OP since everyone else got nerfed. Anet should never buff and nerf in the same patch as it creates this sort of power leap. If you can be bothered to look at my post history, you’ll see that I’ve got posts ~ 6 months old detailing how strong the build was and how it only seemed weak because every other profession was overtuned.

What’s funny is that the “meta” build isn’t even the best version of it for team play. It’s possible to nuke the entire team on point and drop them in under 5 seconds. When I play with a friend, I get him to go in first to “pull aggro” and I leap in and nearly instantly drop half the team before they can call target and focus me. This was possible even when people were running super tanky amulets that are no longer in the game.

“I get him to go in first to “pull aggro” and I leap in and nearly instantly drop half the team before they can call target and focus me.”

No, no you don’t.

JTGuevara.9018:

There’s been a lot of chatter lately about hybrid/condition warriors and about how overpowered they are. Frankly, it’s just not true. After warriors were pretty much ROADKILL these past 6-7 months, we finally got a buff to our sustainability, only to find that people cannot adapt!

It seems to be that players got too comfortable dealing with easy warrior kills these past two seasons, now all of a sudden, a number of you say we’re the “noob/low-skill” class again. It’s actually more like some of you need to STEP IT UP!

To my point, warriors are not OP. As a warrior main, I’ll share the weaknesses. People tend to have trouble with the condi melee-variant(sw/torch + mace/shield) so I’ll share that.

We are melee. That means we can barely disengage. Sword 2-leap is all we have. We can’t teleport, we can’t stealth, we can’t move away from the fight quickly in any substantial way. This opens us up for chills, cripples and immobilizes. Also, CC doesn’t really work on us because of our access to stab and multiple stun breaks, but soft CC like daze gives us problems. To reap the rewards for our sustainability and healing, we HAVE to hit our bursts, which brings me to this: blinds. Blinds are an obvious weakness for us. A warrior is a demolisher, if he can’t hit his target(s) then he’s easier to put down. I will say we’re ridiculously strong in 1v1, but in team fights we are vulnerable to the stuff I said above. I think Druids, Scrappers and yes, DH can handle our condi-melee builds.

All in all, we’re not invincible. We CAN be beaten.

The current meta war build is not OP nor invincible but it is faceroll compared to a lot of other builds. Even if I hardly ever play my war/berserker I get stupidly ez results with it.

The only bad thing about such a build is when you get kitten talk by one of these when they win a fight they couldn’t possibly loose in 1 v 1. It get some ppl the idea they are awesome when it really isn’t them…

Outsider.6051:

Is it just me, or does anyone else find that fighting a condi warr to be really intense and exhilarating. I know what skills are gonna be his main burst and prepare for it, but if I am not careful, its certain death. After fighting thru bunkers regularly, fights with warriors feels like a godsend. Fights go either way, but mostly stalemates.

Playing tempest d/f. Tried scrapper, trooper, and radiance runes. All three worked well enough.

Hehe you ever set up or fought with ALL-Warrior teams on BOTH sides? It’s just pure fun & mayhem! Smash meta baby! We warriors should have our own league! lol

Furajir.3815:

HEY GAIZ WARIUR IZ OH PEE BECAZ TEY R ENVENCIBUL 99 PURCENT EF DA TIM UND DEY LUTERALLY 1 SHOOT YU END AR SIRIOUSLEE OHH PEE

HUUURP DURRRRP

Literally this entire thread is filled with people who haven’t played warrior for more than 25 seconds. They lack basic gameplay and skill knowledge and it’s insanely apparent. Hurt my brain to read it more so than typing that sentence.

LMAO, Nearly choked on my food reading this. You’re right tough.

You don’t have to tell me. I personally find condi warriors fodder on all of the toons I play.

This thread is very entertaining to say the least.

JTGuevara.9018:

Let’s not repeat the same mistake as with mesmer, specifically MOA nerf, which to me was totally unnecessary.

Stop reading here.

Either you’re a low level troll or just a casual. Either way, don’t post on the forums please.

RlyOsim.2497:

JTGuevara.9018:

Let’s not repeat the same mistake as with mesmer, specifically MOA nerf, which to me was totally unnecessary.

Stop reading here.

Either you’re a low level troll or just a casual. Either way, don’t post on the forums please.

^
Yea every high tier player was asking for moa nerfs since ages, even the main mesmers…

Idk fivedawgs,furajir,ross biddle (XD)and this guy should actually all get togeather and create a club for forum clowns – maybe they even get paid for.

Gonna have to agree, Moa had to get hit. Anything less than 6 seconds I would have called foul on though.

Nevertheless, Dominik, care to enlighten us how exactly Warrior comes close to S2 Reaper? Especially since we are still seeing Necro play in this season fair well? If Warrior was as broken as you said, do you think Necro would be outright removed from competitive play until Warrior gets addressed?

Or maybe, just maybe, both Warrior and Necro would be swapped out on any given team for composition and meta-building variance? There were heavy nerfs handed to everyone (save tempests, but I think Tempests have massive balance issues already) so I am willing to gander multiple roles just got more than one capable profession.

…Except DH, methinks DH will be reserved for SoloQ (Been seeing this weird Bunker Variant however, anyone know what the deal with that one is?).

Edit: Let’s take it a step further. Give me some competitive comps you might see PL show with this Season’s buffs. I see Tempest/Warrior/Thief/Engineer/Druid, or Tempest/Warrior/Mesmer/Necro/Engineer presuming every team will have a Warrior and Tempest based on the outcries on these forums. Thief and Rev might be interchangeable, as although PT won’t be able to combo into anything without build-up, Rev is still potent against these glassier comps.

Ok, I believe my name is a brand on this forum, on its way to the ESL; so i wont be label as a forum clown. That warrant a defamation lawsuit… But @Dominika, what is it about my statement that you disagree with?

Sykper.6583:

Gonna have to agree, Moa had to get hit. Anything less than 6 seconds I would have called foul on though.

Nevertheless, Dominik, care to enlighten us how exactly Warrior comes close to S2 Reaper?

You have the same kitten mobility,way more survivability and in 2v2s etc. you are as strong as reaper was in s2. On top of that warrior has much more matchups that are in his favour than reaper ever had

So the better question is how exactly warrior doesn’t come close to s2 reaper?

Sykper.6583:

Edit: Let’s take it a step further. Give me some competitive comps you might see PL show with this Season’s buffs. I see Tempest/Warrior/Thief/Engineer/Druid, or Tempest/Warrior/Mesmer/Necro/Engineer

Those are basically the worst comps you could list here tbh. Nobody has ever played it and nobody ever will play one of those comps. Allthough I have to admit you didn’t make a dragonhunter + core classes comp, so I will give this to you.

LOL, like others said, if you felt the need to make this post it shows that warrior is OP.

Umm… Warrior is OP AF and needs to be toned down like now and not in 3 months. As I’ve said before, I don’t care about sPvP as much as I care how nuts the build is in WvW. Dev’s a re utterly crazy to think this is good for the game. As if cancer Mesmer and Thief weren’t bad enough

This build is trash to roam with in solo wvw. You need mobility and disengage, which this offers none of.

Again, this thread is getting stupider by the minute.

Gotta agree with Furajir, the build being talked about is trash in WvW.

Now playing power GS with either mace or axe shield, that is a much better build and you can down people super quick if they don’t have plenty of stunbreaks. Run when your stances are done, come back when they’re coming off recharge. Sustain is ludicrous atm on warrior but as I said earlier, it’s more it’s synergy with the elite spec and all elite specs are equally ridiculous.

dominik.9721:

Sykper.6583:

Gonna have to agree, Moa had to get hit. Anything less than 6 seconds I would have called foul on though.

Nevertheless, Dominik, care to enlighten us how exactly Warrior comes close to S2 Reaper?

You have the same kitten mobility,way more survivability and in 2v2s etc. you are as strong as reaper was in s2. On top of that warrior has much more matchups that are in his favour than reaper ever had

So the better question is how exactly warrior doesn’t come close to s2 reaper?

Sykper.6583:

Edit: Let’s take it a step further. Give me some competitive comps you might see PL show with this Season’s buffs. I see Tempest/Warrior/Thief/Engineer/Druid, or Tempest/Warrior/Mesmer/Necro/Engineer

Those are basically the worst comps you could list here tbh. Nobody has ever played it and nobody ever will play one of those comps. Allthough I have to admit you didn’t make a dragonhunter + core classes comp, so I will give this to you.

1) Way more survivability? You kidding bro? With Berserk being literally the only thing to keep the condis from this meta out of our face, because aside from Berserker Stance and NOT Endure Pain since Endure Pain does jack against the bombs, we have roughly 50% uptime on the natural defenses we get from Berserk. Outside of that, we are boned, much like how Reapers got kitten on without their shroud. Absolutely comparable. Not to mention Reapers would love to transfer our conditions not back to US, but to our ally in a 2v2, nothing like making my ally bleed eh?

2) List every single matchup a S2 Necro had in a teamfight, and compare it to what a Warrior has right now. Waiting for this brah.

3) Do you have issues reading? ‘This season’s buffs’ means that obviously the comps I listed weren’t played before you dolt. Try again, think about what got hit, and give me what YOU think will be the comps played competitively.

Finally, let’s pretend for a brief moment that IF Warrior was compared to S2 Necro. What of it? We can still only have one Warrior on a given team, however S3 balance has shifted drastically with the removal of Merc’s and the nerfing of half the used professions in Top Tier play. It’s an utterly different environment.

Furajir.3815:

This build is trash to roam with in solo wvw. You need mobility and disengage, which this offers none of.

Again, this thread is getting stupider by the minute.

“Need” mobility and disengage?? Because there’s nothing in WvW that requires us to fight in confined places??

Maybe it would help us take you seriously if your signature link didn’t show you playing Warrior and specifically Condi Warrior so much? Looks like you’re just whining to keep your shiny than honestly talking about balance.

RlyOsim.2497:

JTGuevara.9018:

Let’s not repeat the same mistake as with mesmer, specifically MOA nerf, which to me was totally unnecessary.

Stop reading here.

Either you’re a low level troll or just a casual. Either way, don’t post on the forums please.

NICE to meet you too!

Ha! But seriously, people said not a peep about moa since the game began, even with HoT powercreep, but all of a sudden, NOW is the problem?! Please.

It wasn’t the ridiculous condition output or anything like that, ooooohh no….it was the moa. >.>

DeWolfe.2174:

Furajir.3815:

This build is trash to roam with in solo wvw. You need mobility and disengage, which this offers none of.

Again, this thread is getting stupider by the minute.

“Need” mobility and disengage?? Because there’s nothing in WvW that requires us to fight in confined places??

Maybe it would help us take you seriously if your signature link didn’t show you playing Warrior and specifically Condi Warrior so much? Looks like you’re just whining to keep your shiny than honestly talking about balance.

What are you talking about? I’ve never played condi warrior? I was showcasing one build and the video was 60 seconds long, the rest was vanilla GS/Hammer or hammer builds. By all means bring on the salt bc I said the build was bad in wvw, which it is, I stomp it with power in spvp and I stomp it with power in wvw. We aren’t holding points in wvw, only reason it even works in spvp is people HAVE to fight on points forcing them to go toe to toe.

Shiyo.3578:

JTGuevara.9018:

I’d like to emphasize more weaknesses of warrior.

NO protection
NO invulns
NO evades

What game are you playing? Warriors can endure pain x2 and block for 3s every 20s + reflect projectiles then block again and reflect ALL projectiles(only blocks 1 attack but all projs) and has multiple forms of resistance.

Warriors basically run around invincible 90% of the time then randomly turn around and attempt to 1 shot you, then keep running around invincible.

that’s the reason why warrior was the most op class in first and second season….
oh wait…

….@aboves, yea, mace/lb is not good wvw roaming for obvious reasons..just like hambow were never good in wvw roaming..it’s focused on objective fighting…where enemies are forced to go to the objective..so unable to kit…

“booohooo wars are so weak”

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Cynz.9437:

“booohooo wars are so weak”

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Meditrapper needs a slight buff, then we will have one for each profession!

Let’s make their traps Stun gg!

Sykper.6583:

Cynz.9437:

“booohooo wars are so weak”

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Meditrapper needs a slight buff, then we will have one for each profession!

Let’s make their traps Stun gg!

Delete DH.

Class essentially plays itself for you at this point.

Shiyo.3578:

Sykper.6583:

Cynz.9437:

“booohooo wars are so weak”

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Meditrapper needs a slight buff, then we will have one for each profession!

Let’s make their traps Stun gg!

Delete DH.

Class essentially plays itself for you at this point.

Ehh, I roamed in WvW on Perplexity Dire Mesmer pre-HoT.

THAT was the most it plays itself. Literal aids, and it was hogwash in SPvP.

Sykper.6583:

Shiyo.3578:

Sykper.6583:

Cynz.9437:

“booohooo wars are so weak”

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Meditrapper needs a slight buff, then we will have one for each profession!

Let’s make their traps Stun gg!

Delete DH.

Class essentially plays itself for you at this point.

Ehh, I roamed in WvW on Perplexity Dire Mesmer pre-HoT.

THAT was the most it plays itself. Literal aids, and it was hogwash in SPvP.

Strong comparison. Only there was no Dire or Perplexity in SPvP to run the build there XD

Ross Biddle.2367:

Sykper.6583:

Shiyo.3578:

Sykper.6583:

Cynz.9437:

“booohooo wars are so weak”

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Meditrapper needs a slight buff, then we will have one for each profession!

Let’s make their traps Stun gg!

Delete DH.

Class essentially plays itself for you at this point.

Ehh, I roamed in WvW on Perplexity Dire Mesmer pre-HoT.

THAT was the most it plays itself. Literal aids, and it was hogwash in SPvP.

Strong comparison. Only there was no Dire or Perplexity in SPvP to run the build there XD

Well that’s why I said WvW! I believe there might have been trolling PU builds using other stats though…

Warrior OP

/15

DeWolfe.2174:

Umm… Warrior is OP AF and needs to be toned down like now and not in 3 months. As I’ve said before, I don’t care about sPvP as much as I care how nuts the build is in WvW. Dev’s a re utterly crazy to think this is good for the game. As if cancer Mesmer and Thief weren’t bad enough

Are you hoping a nerf to warrior will help you get back to T1?

After playing a bit more this season, I don’t mind warrior too much. However, there have been a couple of times I’ve been insta downed and I have no clue how it happens. The first case I was just outside of melee range and got hit with arc divider I think. Instantly down (I was at 15k health, above 50%). The next I’ve honestly got no idea. No animation. Downed instantly from 20k, and the warrior followed up with 100 blades. No condis were involved in either case. If it happens again I’ll be sure to look at my combat log.

I’m curious what grounds players are basing their experiences on… a lot of politically incorrect, cynical notions here.

Zodryn.4216:

After playing a bit more this season, I don’t mind warrior too much. However, there have been a couple of times I’ve been insta downed and I have no clue how it happens. The first case I was just outside of melee range and got hit with arc divider I think. Instantly down (I was at 15k health, above 50%). The next I’ve honestly got no idea. No animation. Downed instantly from 20k, and the warrior followed up with 100 blades. No condis were involved in either case. If it happens again I’ll be sure to look at my combat log.

Hey there! I’ve been playing my warrior and have had the exact same thing happen to me. I generally figure I was focused, but yes checking the combat log should provide answers.

Shiyo.3578:

JTGuevara.9018:

I’d like to emphasize more weaknesses of warrior.

NO protection
NO invulns
NO evades

What game are you playing? Warriors can endure pain x2 and block for 3s every 20s + reflect projectiles then block again and reflect ALL projectiles(only blocks 1 attack but all projs) and has multiple forms of resistance.

Warriors basically run around invincible 90% of the time then randomly turn around and attempt to 1 shot you, then keep running around invincible.

I hope you are beeing sarcastic, because… thats so far from the reality, its not even funny.

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

Furajir.3815:

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

That is currently making the profession stronger than it should be….

No it is going to take weeks for anet to fix this since it’s one of their baby professions, had it been another profession that this happened to, it would of already been patched by now

drcraig.9403:

DeWolfe.2174:

Umm… Warrior is OP AF and needs to be toned down like now and not in 3 months. As I’ve said before, I don’t care about sPvP as much as I care how nuts the build is in WvW. Dev’s a re utterly crazy to think this is good for the game. As if cancer Mesmer and Thief weren’t bad enough

Are you hoping a nerf to warrior will help you get back to T1?

Because every guild in WvW isn’t running more Warriors now? Duh….
Oh and, how many post’s are you going to make in one thread? You seem kinda desperate to keep your shiny.

I’m saying it needs to be toned down because I like balanced and even professions. Also, I dislike “Rock, Paper, Scissors” combat nor do I like “FotM” builds.

DeWolfe.2174:

drcraig.9403:

DeWolfe.2174:

Umm… Warrior is OP AF and needs to be toned down like now and not in 3 months. As I’ve said before, I don’t care about sPvP as much as I care how nuts the build is in WvW. Dev’s a re utterly crazy to think this is good for the game. As if cancer Mesmer and Thief weren’t bad enough

Are you hoping a nerf to warrior will help you get back to T1?

Because every guild in WvW isn’t running more Warriors now? Duh….

It’s because I like balanced and even professions and not “Rock, Paper, Scissors” or “FotM” builds.

What is imbalanced with the warrior besides the LB bug with Cleansing Ire? You sound desperate to be able to still have warriors for an easy kill. You like balanced and even professions but your only legitimate complaint about warrior is a bug. Get over it and play better. Oh yeah, what tier are you now?

Zodryn.4216:

After playing a bit more this season, I don’t mind warrior too much. However, there have been a couple of times I’ve been insta downed and I have no clue how it happens. The first case I was just outside of melee range and got hit with arc divider I think. Instantly down (I was at 15k health, above 50%). The next I’ve honestly got no idea. No animation. Downed instantly from 20k, and the warrior followed up with 100 blades. No condis were involved in either case. If it happens again I’ll be sure to look at my combat log.

On My demolisher ammy berserker, to dish out enough damage to eat through that sort of HP, I’d need to lock you down with a stun, go into berserk, arc diviner, hundred blades, whirlwind, and could continue on with another arc diviner. I may or may not need all of this depending on your build/ammy/class etc. Even then you’d have to remain locked down, and if you somehow managed to miss all of the animations involved I’d be questioning what was in my dinner if anything XD

echo.2053:

Furajir.3815:

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

That is currently making the profession stronger than it should be….

It’s interesting because I haven’t noticed the presence of this bug while fighting condi berserkers on my power berserker. Huh.

Ross Biddle.2367:

echo.2053:

Furajir.3815:

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

That is currently making the profession stronger than it should be….

It’s interesting because I haven’t noticed the presence of this bug while fighting condi berserkers on my power berserker. Huh.

You wouldn’t really notice it. I play power build as well and don’t rely on condi doing my damage. This is only a big deal because condi builds aren’t doing nearly as much damage as the should. Personally I don’t even use longbow. I’ve never liked ranged weapons on my warrior.

drcraig.9403:

Ross Biddle.2367:

echo.2053:

Furajir.3815:

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

That is currently making the profession stronger than it should be….

It’s interesting because I haven’t noticed the presence of this bug while fighting condi berserkers on my power berserker. Huh.

You wouldn’t really notice it.

XD

Ross Biddle.2367:

drcraig.9403:

Ross Biddle.2367:

echo.2053:

Furajir.3815:

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

That is currently making the profession stronger than it should be….

It’s interesting because I haven’t noticed the presence of this bug while fighting condi berserkers on my power berserker. Huh.

You wouldn’t really notice it.

XD

I gotcha…lol

Ross Biddle.2367:

echo.2053:

Furajir.3815:

echo.2053:

Warrior bow removing 6 condi’s – yyyeaah perfectly fine for such a short coolddown /sarcasm

It’s a bug, quit crying.

That is currently making the profession stronger than it should be….

It’s interesting because I haven’t noticed the presence of this bug while fighting condi berserkers on my power berserker. Huh.

LOL “should ignore bugs”

lets go at least make these next 30 mins interesting

I’m playing vanilla warrior and you know what? This condi build is just kitten and must be nerfed. For real it is like smashing buttons to make condi burst and easly kill enemy. They mus either nerf mace condis or all zerker skills so that they won’t abuse mace’s condi application so much.