Guild Wars 2

Explain me how to counter this idiotic trapper build no brain at all ? This reason why this game so unpopular now cause bad balance and class stacking

run default meta gs/mace build

don’t be bad

the end

how to win games when they got 2 guardians and you litterary can enter to the points ?

If 2 guardians are on 1 point that means the 2 other points are points don’t have a guardian, in which case go for those. Or bring a buddy and focus one down at a time. You have endure pain, and defy pain to mitigate 8 seconds worth of damage. You also have berserker stance and healing signet to mitigate any condi guardian build. You have have signet of might which ignores blocks rendering most of their survivability moot for 6 seconds. There are a number of ways to deal with guardians or multiple guardians as a Warrior. Be creative, use your brain. It’s a team game, treat it like one and stop trying to take on an entire team by yourself :p

DHs lose 1v1 to pretty much everything. Traps are a terrible mechanic in any scenario where your opponent is aware of them (on rangers as well.) The reason DHs are decent is because they can plop them directly on top of a team fight and catch people relatively unaware.

Might Signet > Headbutt > Berserk > Arc Slice.
Might Signet > Headbutt > 100B > Berserk (for taunt and quickness > Arc slice.

DH is really easy to beat as War.

Ty, a bit better now practicing

At the worst you have shield 5 – you can pop it and enter point to trigger and consume all the traps

After that just pop your unblockable signet and destroy them easily, most of DHs don’t know about dodging and stuff =)

Warrior counters mostly anything at the moment. Trap guardian is no different.

You don’t, dh kittens on warrior

Zodin.6517:

You don’t, dh kittens on warrior

meditrapper vs condi maybe

the signet of might GS/Mace Shield power war directly counters nearly every meta DH build.

condi war is pretty easy to control as a dh. so many condi clears are available that you can facetank. power warrior is another story though. you can’t afford to get hit by that gs.

Darknicrofia.2604:

Zodin.6517:

You don’t, dh kittens on warrior

meditrapper vs condi maybe

the signet of might GS/Mace Shield power war directly counters nearly every meta DH build.

It’s better than the stone for sure, but in the end dh still kittens warr, there’s too much to make up, which signet doesn’t alone.

Zodin.6517:

It’s better than the stone for sure, but in the end dh still kittens warr, there’s too much to make up, which signet doesn’t alone.

The meta Warrior build pretty much counters every other build. DH is no exception.

Velimere.7685:

Zodin.6517:

It’s better than the stone for sure, but in the end dh still kittens warr, there’s too much to make up, which signet doesn’t alone.

The meta Warrior build pretty much counters every other build. DH is no exception.

No it doesn’t.

Zodin you’re one person saying DH is a good 1v1 class and like 80 other people in a PvP focused forum are telling you you’re wrong. This isn’t a creativity challenge, DH is bad because of concrete reasons.

Use kiting and draw them off their traps. It’s amazing how many DH don’t seem to know how to deal with mid range, kiting attacks and seriously rely on their opponent jumping into traps.

Darknicrofia.2604:

the signet of might GS/Mace Shield power war directly counters nearly every meta DH build.

Or the guard just dodge+kites when the signet comes out, and then wins.

Fluffball.8307:

Zodin you’re one person saying DH is a good 1v1 class and like 80 other people in a PvP focused forum are telling you you’re wrong. This isn’t a creativity challenge, DH is bad because of concrete reasons.

Never said dh is a good 1v1 class. Quote me on that tho. Not denying that it’s a good 1v1 class either tho, it does have pretty good matchups.

It used to be the consensus that the earth was flat, everyone agreed on that, didn’t make it any more right. Not saying that the consensus is that warr beats dh, at all, just addressing the lacking logic. This isn’t democracy.

Zodin.6517:

It used to be the consensus that the earth was flat, everyone agreed on that

No it didn’t, that’s a myth. Humans were intelligent enough to realize it was round at the dawn of history.

Fluffball.8307:

Zodin.6517:

It used to be the consensus that the earth was flat, everyone agreed on that

No it didn’t, that’s a myth. Humans were intelligent enough to realize it was round at the dawn of history.

That’s a a completely different topic, it was used to make an example, might as well have been what if ppl thought it rains horses. What you’re saying is completely irrelevant. Once again, lacking logic. I’ve no clue how your response is linked to the topic but aight.

Crinn.7864:

Darknicrofia.2604:

the signet of might GS/Mace Shield power war directly counters nearly every meta DH build.

Or the guard just dodge+kites when the signet comes out, and then wins.

And then the War pops Endure Pain, Shield stance and whatever else, stands behinds you and still wrecks you.

Signet of Might is not necessary to beat a DH, it’s only a shortcut to bypass Aegis and secure an easy Headbutt otherwise there’s nothing hard about 1 Whirlwind Attack followed up with a Headbutt.

Fluffball.8307:

That’s why you think DH counters warrior, you think ancient Greeks didn’t prove the earth was round. Don’t brag about being uneducated.

Wtf are you even talking about? I quickly make an example of how a consensus doesn’t make it correct, that makes me uneducated, and that I somehow brag about it? And how is that the reason I think dh counters warrior? Absolutely nothing of what you said makes sense.

Zodin.6517:

Wtf are you even talking about? I quickly make an example of how a consensus doesn’t make it correct, that makes me uneducated, and that I somehow brag about it? And how is that the reason I think dh counters warrior? Absolutely nothing of what you said makes sense.

Consensus has always been the earth is round and DH is bad 1v1.

No lol. I mean, you’re free to think whatever you want, once again, it’s not like it’s gonna change anything. Have a good day sir.

Fluffball.8307:

Zodin.6517:

once again, it’s not like it’s gonna change anything.

Haha, this sums up why everyone is so angry on the internet. You’ve got some Mississippi fast food worker arguing with an Oxfrod doctorate.

Lolwhat? What’s that even supposed to mean? Remarking how a consensus does not mean it’s right does not make me an Oxford* doctorate, just about anyone should be able to understand it. And just because you’re unable to grasp it does not make you a “Mississippi fast food worker”.

Idk why you’d even bring it up, or why you’d use those titles. And it was never an argument in the first place, it was you continuously making up a bunch of off-topic, irrelevant nonsense, in order to overshadow your shortcoming. Huh, I guess that’s why you brought it up.

I think Warrior vs Guardian, skill has a lot to do with the outcome. But if we assume equal skill, at a higher-tier, on point, Warrior will have a slight disadvantage, off point Warrior will have a major advantage. In lower-tier, Warrior will likely beat Guardian, due to the fact that Warrior is currently a much better 1v1 class, but Guardian is much better at team fights.

bigmonto.4215:

the fact that Warrior is currently a much better 1v1 class, but Guardian is much better at team fights.

Which is the thread discussion, Warrior beats DH. Team fights a DH is better yes, but that’s not the thread.

Zodin.6517:

Fluffball.8307:

Zodin.6517:

once again, it’s not like it’s gonna change anything.

Haha, this sums up why everyone is so angry on the internet. You’ve got some Mississippi fast food worker arguing with an Oxfrod doctorate.

Lolwhat? What’s that even supposed to mean? Remarking how a consensus does not mean it’s right does not make me an Oxford* doctorate, just about anyone should be able to understand it. And just because you’re unable to grasp it does not make you a “Mississippi fast food worker”.

Idk why you’d even bring it up, or why you’d use those titles. And it was never an argument in the first place, it was you continuously making up a bunch of off-topic, irrelevant nonsense, in order to overshadow your shortcoming. Huh, I guess that’s why you brought it up.

But you’re the one who started all the consensus earth is flat crap.

Did this Zodin.6517 guy really just make an off-topic comparison before using a straw man fallacy to apply his own foot-in-the-mouth to someone else as though they started it and not him? I mean we all know he’s wrong about Warrior 1v1 Guardian, but now it seems like he’s only replying with the sole intent of inciting negative discourse.

I don’t know what everyone is on about, DH vs warrior is a winning matchup for the DH. If the warrior runs rabid amulet it is more annoying for the guard and gives the warrior better odds but the dh should still win it.

sephiroth.4217:

bigmonto.4215:

the fact that Warrior is currently a much better 1v1 class, but Guardian is much better at team fights.

Which is the thread discussion, Warrior beats DH. Team fights a DH is better yes, but that’s not the thread.

Zodin.6517:

Fluffball.8307:

Zodin.6517:

once again, it’s not like it’s gonna change anything.

Haha, this sums up why everyone is so angry on the internet. You’ve got some Mississippi fast food worker arguing with an Oxfrod doctorate.

Lolwhat? What’s that even supposed to mean? Remarking how a consensus does not mean it’s right does not make me an Oxford* doctorate, just about anyone should be able to understand it. And just because you’re unable to grasp it does not make you a “Mississippi fast food worker”.

Idk why you’d even bring it up, or why you’d use those titles. And it was never an argument in the first place, it was you continuously making up a bunch of off-topic, irrelevant nonsense, in order to overshadow your shortcoming. Huh, I guess that’s why you brought it up.

But you’re the one who started all the consensus earth is flat crap.

He thought that if it’s the consensus is that warrior beats dh, that it’d be true, which it isn’t. Simply address his lacking logic, seems it hurt his feelings :/

Velimere.7685:

Did this Zodin.6517 guy really just make an off-topic comparison before using a straw man fallacy to apply his own foot-in-the-mouth to someone else as though they started it and not him? I mean we all know he’s wrong about Warrior 1v1 Guardian, but now it seems like he’s only replying with the sole intent of inciting negative discourse.

No I didn’t, read again.

DH doesn’t kitten on warrior anymore, It still has a favourable matchup however the cc and unblockable signet definately makes the match-up a bit less onesided. However we would be a bit to optimistic to think that a 6 second window of unblockable attacks immeadatly hardcounters DH in full.

I don’t think you can accurately predict who should win and I base this on that both classes have received a large influx of new players due to how easy and effective they have been compared to others.

I don’t agree that DH kittens on berserker however I don’t think the opposite is true either as the only thing the berserker has to counter DH specifically is signet of might. While the DH has plenty of blocks when the signet is on cool down which counters warriors ability to build and use adrenaline.

At the end of the day it will come down to skill between these two classes and which player is more skilled with their respective classes. Zodin is one of the most experienced guardian players in the game right now and probably one of the top DH in EU. I’m guessing he practises with whatever is left of Zen and maybe Cake which consist of high mechanically skilled players too so I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss his opinion though I’d appreciate it if he would give some reasons for his point of view.

it’s a pretty sad day when you lose to DH on power warrior.

Zodin.6517:

You don’t, dh kittens on warrior

^This, highly doubt this crybabies would take down decent DH on their warrior.
Why you dont invite him to duel with your warriors to prove something,i never seen this guy but i heard he playED DH,why not challenge him if warrior win that so easily ? Probably because that would be one sided annihilation …

DH has some glaring weaknesses in 1v1 matchups. I feel bad for them sometimes. (This from Druid). I also think power warrior should be able to beat down DH. Unblockable attacks and stuns really hurt DH.