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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

Toxsa.2701

I did great yesterday, why is everyone ignoring that fact?

Because some people just want to qq about ranger being so bad it’s not represented in tournies. How can you dare to say you did well?

Or rather raise attention to the developers so they can improve and fix ranger as a whole?
You can interpret whatever you like, Idrc. My intention is in my first sentence.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

I did great yesterday, why is everyone ignoring that fact?

Because some people just want to qq about ranger being so bad it’s not represented in tournies. How can you dare to say you did well?

Or rather raise attention to the developers so they can improve and fix ranger as a whole?
You can interpret whatever you like, Idrc. My intention is in my first sentence.

Not really. Your whole point is always: L2p.

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

Toxsa.2701

I did great yesterday, why is everyone ignoring that fact?

Because some people just want to qq about ranger being so bad it’s not represented in tournies. How can you dare to say you did well?

Or rather raise attention to the developers so they can improve and fix ranger as a whole?
You can interpret whatever you like, Idrc. My intention is in my first sentence.

Not really. Your whole point is always: L2p.

Doesn’t matter what you think of me Idrc. I already stated my intention. I only posted L2P because some people have cunning intention of destroying a certain class by falsely advertise it’s OP so developers can nerf the most under-powered class even more. Now we have facts to disprove those mischievous people.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

I did great yesterday, why is everyone ignoring that fact?

Because some people just want to qq about ranger being so bad it’s not represented in tournies. How can you dare to say you did well?

Or rather raise attention to the developers so they can improve and fix ranger as a whole?
You can interpret whatever you like, Idrc. My intention is in my first sentence.

Not really. Your whole point is always: L2p.

Doesn’t matter what you think of me Idrc. I already stated my intention. I only posted L2P because some people have cunning intention of destroying a certain class by falsely advertise it’s OP so developers can nerf the most under-powered class even more. Now we have facts to disprove those mischievous people.

What facts? That no one plays it? Have you ever thought about the fact no one plays it because it’s just too easy to have some potential? Yeah, ranger is bad in conquest, but it’s also not giving you any reason to try to play better. There are many specs that are not viable in trounies such as condition necromancer, fresh air elementalist…It’s just how meta works. These builds do need tweaks and improvements, but fighting for rangers to get more ridiculous (read: be able to do more damage from insane range while putting no effort in it) is silly, too. There are people who do not like the current ranger spec and would rather they had something good in conquest while it would require higher skill cap. However, all you do is qqing about rangers not being in tournies in all the threads I’ve stepped into. Maybe once you actually come up with suggestiongs how to improve the class and stop telling everyone to l2p, I can take you seriously.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

I did great yesterday, why is everyone ignoring that fact?

Because some people just want to qq about ranger being so bad it’s not represented in tournies. How can you dare to say you did well?

Or rather raise attention to the developers so they can improve and fix ranger as a whole?
You can interpret whatever you like, Idrc. My intention is in my first sentence.

Not really. Your whole point is always: L2p.

Doesn’t matter what you think of me Idrc. I already stated my intention. I only posted L2P because some people have cunning intention of destroying a certain class by falsely advertise it’s OP so developers can nerf the most under-powered class even more. Now we have facts to disprove those mischievous people.

Pewpew inst all that weak tho on it own. Talking about 6/6/2/0/0 build. Where its going to shine is stronghold as hes not really designed for conquest, their auto being a indication of that. Hes stupidly broken when it comes to wvw tho and it may be the same for stronghold as well.. “Glass” bow also getting a huge buffs to sustain. He wont be all that glassy anymore while still keeping his damage so i dont know why anyone would moan about ranger being bad atm. If anything it asking for a nerf to damage at this point

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

Toxsa.2701

I did great yesterday, why is everyone ignoring that fact?

Because some people just want to qq about ranger being so bad it’s not represented in tournies. How can you dare to say you did well?

Or rather raise attention to the developers so they can improve and fix ranger as a whole?
You can interpret whatever you like, Idrc. My intention is in my first sentence.

Not really. Your whole point is always: L2p.

Doesn’t matter what you think of me Idrc. I already stated my intention. I only posted L2P because some people have cunning intention of destroying a certain class by falsely advertise it’s OP so developers can nerf the most under-powered class even more. Now we have facts to disprove those mischievous people.

Pewpew inst all that weak tho on it own. Talking about 6/6/2/0/0 build. Where its going to shine is stronghold as hes not really designed for conquest, their auto being a indication of that. Hes stupidly broken when it comes to wvw tho and it may be the same for stronghold as well.. “Glass” bow also getting a huge buffs to sustain. He wont be all that glassy anymore while still keeping his damage so i dont know why anyone would moan about ranger being bad atm. If anything it asking for a nerf to damage at this point

Please don’t bring those “future stuffs” that no-one have access to or experienced before as an example. Other classes get buffed too, so the future trait change is not just a ranger thing.

Also I did do Stronghold during that Beta. It seems to me that Celestial Shoutbow and condition engi are actually more effective in clearing large group of npcs at once, which means more advantages in Stronghold too.

Last note: Ranger is kind of terrible in WvW when the scale of players exceed 10, and when the commanders and the zerg know what they’re doing. Basically rangers are terrible in T1 zerging because most of them know what they’re doing. For roaming, thief and engineer can roam even better than ranger.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

Please don’t bring those “future stuffs” that no-one have access to or experienced before as an example. Other classes get buffed too, so the future trait change is not just a ranger thing.

Not all getting buffs. Some getting little tweaks, some getting nerf. Rangers will have a lot of stuff to play with once patch hit. And if its true that heal as one becoming a shout then were looking at 406hp/s by going 6/0/6/0/6 – possibly new version of glassbow. What else it provides anyone can check out.

Also I did do Stronghold during that Beta. It seems to me that Celestial Shoutbow and condition engi are actually more effective in clearing large group of npcs at once, which means more advantages in Stronghold too.

So did i, and i been doing there quite well. Condi engi wont work well as he will be countered by shoutbow which will be countered by pewpew. Besides that i think people wll favor zerk to clean npcs faster, and we all know how hard zerk ranger hits another zerk from 1900 range.

Last note: Ranger is kind of terrible in WvW when the scale of players exceed 10, and when the commanders and the zerg know what they’re doing. Basically rangers are terrible in T1 zerging because most of them know what they’re doing. For roaming, thief and engineer can roam even better than ranger.

Yet glassbow is a excellent solo/group roamer which may faceroll nearly everyone in open field when it comes to 1v1 even engi/thief. WvW also is something more than blobbing all day long but it seems you dont do anything else besides that. Not to mention that thieves and engineers arent great in T1 either. Last time i checked “blobbing meta” was guard/war/ele/necro aka GWEN. Will you make threads about other classes being subpar as well? They are terrible too.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

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Also, you have to remember if your taking LB/GS Ranger into Team Que or a Tourney and other team has Medi Guard, well you should think about changing class as Medi Guard is 100% the hard counter to LB/GS Rangers a smart team will take full advantage of this and train you out early.

How so? I mean, I would consider Medi-Guard favoured against PR, but there are much harder counters to the PR, like S/F-Fresh-Air… And in 1v1’s, you really wouldn’t put a PR against a Medi-Guard… actually, you wouldn’t put PR in any 1v1’s if it’s not a non-counter glasscannon like Thief or Mesmer.

Even Staff-Ele is better in Teamfights against a PR than Medi-Guard: Good CC, AoE-Prot and reflection if the PR wants to target the Staff-Ele with LB and tons of CC, peel and Stunbreakers if he wants to go at him in Melee.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

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Personally i dont know where that medi being a hardcounter to power ranger myth coming from as its false. At a point its 50/50 for both sides but outside of a point theres no way that guard will be capable of doing much vs a pew as they lack mobility and get kited to death in current state.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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Personally i dont know where that medi being a hardcounter to power ranger myth coming from as its false. At a point its 50/50 for both sides but outside of a point theres no way that guard will be capable of doing much vs a pew as they lack mobility and get kited to death in current state.

It’s the same as saying fresh air hard counters ranger. If the ranger has a half brain and don’t pew pew into reflect and swaps to gs when the deflect/reflect is on, it’s hardly a hard counter.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

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Personally i dont know where that medi being a hardcounter to power ranger myth coming from as its false. At a point its 50/50 for both sides but outside of a point theres no way that guard will be capable of doing much vs a pew as they lack mobility and get kited to death in current state.

It’s the same as saying fresh air hard counters ranger. If the ranger has a half brain and don’t pew pew into reflect and swaps to gs when the deflect/reflect is on, it’s hardly a hard counter.

well, it’s not only the reflect…. between magnetic wave, obsidian flesh and swirling winds, you have a solid 13 seconds of basically invulnerability against a PR, 4 of which also apply to the GS. Also, you have lots of CC and a teleport, blinds etc. on top of it.

And how exactly do you kite a Medi-Guard? ^^’
JI+Hammer5 will do the trick against a class that runs no stability/teleports and most of PR’s have neither.
Also, no good PR would ever fight a Medi-Guard on point (maybe for a finishing blow with GS), but you just spam arrows on him and kite the Scepter Auto’s…..

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

Personally i dont know where that medi being a hardcounter to power ranger myth coming from as its false. At a point its 50/50 for both sides but outside of a point theres no way that guard will be capable of doing much vs a pew as they lack mobility and get kited to death in current state.

It’s the same as saying fresh air hard counters ranger. If the ranger has a half brain and don’t pew pew into reflect and swaps to gs when the deflect/reflect is on, it’s hardly a hard counter.

well, it’s not only the reflect…. between magnetic wave, obsidian flesh and swirling winds, you have a solid 13 seconds of basically invulnerability against a PR, 4 of which also apply to the GS. Also, you have lots of CC and a teleport, blinds etc. on top of it.

And how exactly do you kite a Medi-Guard? ^^’
JI+Hammer5 will do the trick against a class that runs no stability/teleports and most of PR’s have neither.
Also, no good PR would ever fight a Medi-Guard on point (maybe for a finishing blow with GS), but you just spam arrows on him and kite the Scepter Auto’s…..

Good lord…https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shared_Anguish thats first. If he dindt baited it out with banish before then his ring is basically wasted right there.

Second is the ability to knock him of his ring with point blank or in general just cc him with gs/pet. If he used his virtue for stab – job well done brah, keep it up. Another one is signet of stone where you can laugh at whatever he do during that time, all you have to do is avoid banish. Outside of that ji on 36cd what else he can do? Nothing. Literally a freekill for ez points if fight happens outside of a point.

And who would fight on a point as PR vs medi guard? Me, when i am defending node. I dont want to be a yet another useless noob ranger that the olny thing he does is pewpew from distance. Playing in solo que if i have to i will defend a node in 1v1 for quite a bit unless its a condi build as they melt me. Funny how many times i actually won in these 1v1 point encounters tho.

As for ele fresh air all you have to do is survive things you stated, once that you might meet him again at spawn point.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

Personally i dont know where that medi being a hardcounter to power ranger myth coming from as its false. At a point its 50/50 for both sides but outside of a point theres no way that guard will be capable of doing much vs a pew as they lack mobility and get kited to death in current state.

It’s the same as saying fresh air hard counters ranger. If the ranger has a half brain and don’t pew pew into reflect and swaps to gs when the deflect/reflect is on, it’s hardly a hard counter.

well, it’s not only the reflect…. between magnetic wave, obsidian flesh and swirling winds, you have a solid 13 seconds of basically invulnerability against a PR, 4 of which also apply to the GS. Also, you have lots of CC and a teleport, blinds etc. on top of it.

And how exactly do you kite a Medi-Guard? ^^’
JI+Hammer5 will do the trick against a class that runs no stability/teleports and most of PR’s have neither.
Also, no good PR would ever fight a Medi-Guard on point (maybe for a finishing blow with GS), but you just spam arrows on him and kite the Scepter Auto’s…..

Maybe try to swap from lb when the reflect is on I could say ‘’But you have 6 seconds of invulnerability to damage from fresh air since it’s not based on condis and you can just outrange is so it’s 100% uptime invuln.‘’, but I don’t because it’s silly. You can hit fresh air only twice with your AA and he’ll be already quite low. Fresh air has two CC’s on long cd’s and on a quite high cast time or with a delay, one tp on 40 sec cd, two blinds. Ranger has PBS, which has very low cast time, lower cd, block, singet of stone, leap, range, million cc on pets, entangle…

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Posted by: Spirigo.2897

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@Spirigo.2897, if you want people to listen please stop trolling/flame posting, knowledge and willing to listen to other players work wonders.

I don’t see how I am trolling/flame posting. In fact I can safely say that my posts here were highly constructive in regards to the current state of the class, what fun things it used to have in GW (still has) and what I want to see play in the future if the updates permit.

So all in all you are wrong, unless for some reason you are referring to my back and forth with the user who played a LB Ranger at a competetive level in top 5th or 9th team in the world and was ignored by everyone upon pointing that out. It was a hilarious situation.

A lot of people here seem to suffer from seeing what they want to see rather than what was actually posted.

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Posted by: Sol.4310

Sol.4310

Also, you have to remember if your taking LB/GS Ranger into Team Que or a Tourney and other team has Medi Guard, well you should think about changing class as Medi Guard is 100% the hard counter to LB/GS Rangers a smart team will take full advantage of this and train you out early.

How so? I mean, I would consider Medi-Guard favoured against PR, but there are much harder counters to the PR, like S/F-Fresh-Air… And in 1v1’s, you really wouldn’t put a PR against a Medi-Guard… actually, you wouldn’t put PR in any 1v1’s if it’s not a non-counter glasscannon like Thief or Mesmer.

Even Staff-Ele is better in Teamfights against a PR than Medi-Guard: Good CC, AoE-Prot and reflection if the PR wants to target the Staff-Ele with LB and tons of CC, peel and Stunbreakers if he wants to go at him in Melee.

S/F isn’t meta atm, so doesn’t really matter currently its Medi Guard.

Maybe if PR becomes Meta then you will see allot of S/F and Staff Ele, but atm there rare.

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Posted by: Sol.4310

Sol.4310

@Spirigo.2897, if you want people to listen please stop trolling/flame posting, knowledge and willing to listen to other players work wonders.

I don’t see how I am trolling/flame posting. In fact I can safely say that my posts here were highly constructive in regards to the current state of the class, what fun things it used to have in GW (still has) and what I want to see play in the future if the updates permit.

So all in all you are wrong, unless for some reason you are referring to my back and forth with the user who played a LB Ranger at a competetive level in top 5th or 9th team in the world and was ignored by everyone upon pointing that out. It was a hilarious situation.

A lot of people here seem to suffer from seeing what they want to see rather than what was actually posted.

This whole topic is waste of time, look at changes coming to ranger you think Power ranger is bad now wait til the update and you get 2 rapid fires to face.

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

Toxsa.2701

@Spirigo.2897, if you want people to listen please stop trolling/flame posting, knowledge and willing to listen to other players work wonders.

I don’t see how I am trolling/flame posting. In fact I can safely say that my posts here were highly constructive in regards to the current state of the class, what fun things it used to have in GW (still has) and what I want to see play in the future if the updates permit.

So all in all you are wrong, unless for some reason you are referring to my back and forth with the user who played a LB Ranger at a competetive level in top 5th or 9th team in the world and was ignored by everyone upon pointing that out. It was a hilarious situation.

A lot of people here seem to suffer from seeing what they want to see rather than what was actually posted.

This whole topic is waste of time, look at changes coming to ranger you think Power ranger is bad now wait til the update and you get 2 rapid fires to face.

Along with the 50 new reflection methods introduced along with HoD.
Yeah right.

Also the trait change is not final, so no-one can say for sure. And also trait change is not just a ranger thing, Warrior and thief is getting alot of OP stuffs too.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

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Funny…I always found power ranger as one of the strongest builds for solo queue. It’s a build that people love to call “easy” since it doesn’t have a ton of skills like ele and can do big burst with rapid fire, but I still find that few players use it well since almost no one ever really knows how to disengage wisely. I think half of it is that most people forget they have a GS and only really use it as a last ditch to fight people that they can’t keep at a distance.

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Posted by: Aenye.2390

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Another ‘I dont wanna l2 swap weapon’ thread
Incredible
Also Church of the Ranger, top kek

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

Toxsa.2701

Another ‘I dont wanna l2 swap weapon’ thread
Incredible
Also Church of the Ranger, top kek

And you probably didn’t even read my post zzzzzzzz.
Community these days….

Even when back up with facts instead of “subjective opinions” of those low tier people, they’d still deny it to no end because they couldn’t accept the fact that they may potentially be bad players. It’s too harsh for them to accept it.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

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http://challonge.com/tournament_of_legends_3_na__pool_4/standings

I was representing Team Clutch

We won the first match by default (Even if they showed up I am sure we would’ve rekt them, since we also beat the 2nd Team who were ESL frequenters)

We won the 2nd match (2-1 close matches)

We lost the 3rd Match against Tron Jeremy’s Team (They were better and skilled individually than us, but if we were all at the same level, I am pretty sure we would’ve won or put up a more decent fight)

Fight link:

http://www.twitch.tv/bigheart_gamer/v/5614819 3:34:20 Mark

Unfortunately, this was from our guardian’s perspective.

I was the ranger in all 3 matches, I ran a celestial/Wh/Might stack/trap build

PS: TOXSA YOU ARE STILL IGNORING THE FACT THAT I WAS RANKED 5th in our bracket playing ranger

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

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honestly the gam eisnt balanced well but if you play well you can kick bump with any class. so i would say Engineer simply because of how difficult are most of the engi builds, not because is a bad class.

No offense, Engineer is one of the easiest classes to play at a competent level without any effort , probably at the same level as Shoutbow Warrior.
Clicking more bottoms =/= hard to play.

I have now seen this same statement said about every class in the game but necros.

Interesting.

Beginning to think I shouldn’t put too much stock in what people consider “effort” anymore.

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

Sorel.4870

I have now seen this same statement said about every class in the game but necros.

Interesting.

Beginning to think I shouldn’t put too much stock in what people consider “effort” anymore.

Ok, allow me then: power necro are incredibly easy to play. Just spam dagger 1, DS 1, lich 1, and wait till your spinal shivers/air/fire random proc kills your opponent for you.

I think we have every profession now.

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Posted by: Lukas.7159

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let me just tell you something:

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

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let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally every hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

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Posted by: Lukas.7159

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let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Lol what? You got hit for 3 auto attacks and tanked 20 hits from rapid fire, also managing to tank a Maul, a Point blank shot, and a bunch of pet attacks. You played terribly and deserved to lose.

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Posted by: Lukas.7159

Lukas.7159

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Lol what? You got hit for 3 auto attacks and tanked 20 hits from rapid fire, also managing to tank a Maul, a Point blank shot, and a bunch of pet attacks. You played terribly and deserved to lose.

i probably beat you 10-0 on my main, just because i do dailies in hotjoin doenst mean anything about a class skill

btw in hotjoin its just zerging around and tanking all that stuff shows good sustain/kiting to me

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Lol what? You got hit for 3 auto attacks and tanked 20 hits from rapid fire, also managing to tank a Maul, a Point blank shot, and a bunch of pet attacks. You played terribly and deserved to lose.

You seriously cannot say how well/bad he play from the fact he got 20 hits from rapid fire, that’s just basically a ranger using the skill twice over the course of 10 seconds. You don’t know how long the fight lasted. Not saying he played well, but basing the argument on this is silly, too. You don’t know the numbers of the fight, the positioning of the ranger, the actions of other team members, the cooldown usage or trying to dodge/los. Necro isn’t exactly the profession that can go chase after rangers or have plenty of vigor and endurance.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

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I recently on a whim rolled a ranger and queued unranked. With zero knowledge or experience playing a ranger I had very good success playing 6 6 2 0 0 LB.

I was amazed at how easy it was to play and do well. I found that keeping an awareness of my surroundings was 90% of the game.

Made a thread over on the ranger forums and the hate glowed strong against me….they even went so far as to say power rangers were harder to play then thieves.

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Posted by: Lukas.7159

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i dont remember, cause i took the screen a few days ago, but maybe there were 2 rangers pewpewing at me….since its hotjoin, its not a rarity to meet rangers there

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Posted by: DaShi.1368

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This thread seems to demonstrate that power rangers may be the new turret engineers.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Lol what? You got hit for 3 auto attacks and tanked 20 hits from rapid fire, also managing to tank a Maul, a Point blank shot, and a bunch of pet attacks. You played terribly and deserved to lose.

You seriously cannot say how well/bad he play from the fact he got 20 hits from rapid fire, that’s just basically a ranger using the skill twice over the course of 10 seconds. You don’t know how long the fight lasted. Not saying he played well, but basing the argument on this is silly, too. You don’t know the numbers of the fight, the positioning of the ranger, the actions of other team members, the cooldown usage or trying to dodge/los. Necro isn’t exactly the profession that can go chase after rangers or have plenty of vigor and endurance.

The guy claims he got 1 spammed to death in the above post from 1500 range. He got hit for 3 auto attacks over the course of the fight and a maul, meaning the ranger was also within melee range of him for at least part of the fight.

Since he says he got 1 spammed, he apparently doesn’t even know what different attacks he got hit with.

Furthermore, what does his post prove other than if someone stands in front of a bunch of burst from a Ranger they die? I could post screenshots of myself intentionally tanking a full DPS rotation from Greatsword warrior, but would it prove that Greatsword warrior is even close to good, or viable?

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

Zenos Osgorma.2936

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Wow a necro using a Full glass build -_- i see these every day , the new meta is a Mix of ranged and Melee kiting having nothing to defend yourself at Range , be it vigour/swiftness/ports ect ect you’ll get wreaked with nothing but power Stats.

though with HoT you as a necro can go power and choose more Defensive Traits to help releave the pressure , all in all its your fault.

Zerk beats Zerk one has Range advantage , one forgo’ed all defence for power and fears (which has a range limit) ergo you had no defence.

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Posted by: Lukas.7159

Lukas.7159

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Lol what? You got hit for 3 auto attacks and tanked 20 hits from rapid fire, also managing to tank a Maul, a Point blank shot, and a bunch of pet attacks. You played terribly and deserved to lose.

You seriously cannot say how well/bad he play from the fact he got 20 hits from rapid fire, that’s just basically a ranger using the skill twice over the course of 10 seconds. You don’t know how long the fight lasted. Not saying he played well, but basing the argument on this is silly, too. You don’t know the numbers of the fight, the positioning of the ranger, the actions of other team members, the cooldown usage or trying to dodge/los. Necro isn’t exactly the profession that can go chase after rangers or have plenty of vigor and endurance.

The guy claims he got 1 spammed to death in the above post from 1500 range. He got hit for 3 auto attacks over the course of the fight and a maul, meaning the ranger was also within melee range of him for at least part of the fight.

Since he says he got 1 spammed, he apparently doesn’t even know what different attacks he got hit with.

Furthermore, what does his post prove other than if someone stands in front of a bunch of burst from a Ranger they die? I could post screenshots of myself intentionally tanking a full DPS rotation from Greatsword warrior, but would it prove that Greatsword warrior is even close to good, or viable?

all the hate from you :o

you probably think im a pve hero cause i got hit by a rangers longhorn from max range as a necro without protection, vigor, swiftness or ANYTHING

if you think necro is a good matchup against power ranger then i have no words for you

let me just tell you something:

Wow, how’d you manage to take literally ever hit of 2 rapid fires and a maul in 1 fight? Looks like you deserved to get destroyed.

wow a ranger pressing 1111 from rooftop while you are in a teamfight, then trying to disengange, but wait, longbow range from 1500 is hard to escape

btw it was hotjoin

Wow a necro using a Full glass build -_- i see these every day , the new meta is a Mix of ranged and Melee kiting having nothing to defend yourself at Range , be it vigour/swiftness/ports ect ect you’ll get wreaked with nothing but power Stats.

though with HoT you as a necro can go power and choose more Defensive Traits to help releave the pressure , all in all its your fault.

Zerk beats Zerk one has Range advantage , one forgo’ed all defence for power and fears (which has a range limit) ergo you had no defence.

i was only doing my dailies, stopped playing necro one year ago -_-

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Posted by: Ehecatl.9172

Ehecatl.9172

Well this thread got trolled into the ground.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

See, that’s why low tier players’ opinions of certain class have no merit whatsoever, and balance should not be base on them.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

all the hate from you :o

you probably think im a pve hero cause i got hit by a rangers longhorn from max range as a necro without protection, vigor, swiftness or ANYTHING

if you think necro is a good matchup against power ranger then i have no words for you

Where did I say you were a PvE hero or say that necro has a good match up vs power ranger? You keep making kitten up. I never even mentioned hotjoin.

Your first post on this thread apparently tries to imply that Power Ranger is a power build because “omg look at how much damage i got dealt”. It’s a poorly thought out and reasoned post, since you yourself apparently don’t even know if it was one or two rangers, you fail to notice that you only got hit for 3 auto attacks.

No, Power Necro has a horrible matchup vs Power Ranger. But obviously you don’t have to stand there and tank literally every spec of damage. And then take a screenshot of that and post it in a thread? What?

Then you say that you got hit from max range while in Clocktower, where it’s extremely easy to LoS a power ranger, or just get away to any number of locations. You like making things up.

By the way, I’ve not played any Power Ranger since they got buffed. I find the playstyle boring and linear. The only reason I’m here talking to you is that people implying that a build that doesn’t even see competitive play should be nerfed need to be called out. Please, let me know when everyone starts rolling Power Ranger instead of Medi Guard, Panic Strike Thief, Shoutbow Warrior, and Celestial Engineer. Then we can have a serious discussion of whether the spec is overpowered or too easy.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Bad players justifying Ranger’s “op” abilities in Hotjoin matches.
High tier “good” players justifying Ranger’s abilities in TPvP.
Speculating Ranger’s abilities in Stronghold.

Ranger’s are getting a Staffy team-support abilities (from guardian) and to be honest, they needed it. Yes, Ranger’s are considered low-tier classes in PvP.
Getting hit with Rapid Fire 20 times because you can’t dodge, does not help your case any.

Stronghold: Rangers have higher bursts than condi Engi’s do. Ranger’s have a condi build that = condi engi’s. Saying Ranger’s wont be viable in Stronghold is about as false as saying Thieves will be OP in Stronghold. On the contrary, Thieves will probably be the weakest class in Stronghold unless their specialization buffs them up.

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