Guild Wars 2

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Because I´m pretty much providing reasonable points as to how some of us players believe the system change should work it out.

Once again, I don´t care about what you do in your real life.

You’re not providing reasonable points.
You are just spitting out sentences ignoring facts and counter arguments anyone else is providing.

It has been proved that rank does not means factual experience when a threshold has passed, yet you’ve ignored it.
It has been proved that rank these days means just how much time you’ve past farming skyhammer, yet you didn’t have a flying f.
It has been proved that an high rank player (r70, perhaps) isn’t necessarily more skilled compared to a relatively low rank player (r50-r51).
It has been proved that r55+ players aren’t that much as you’re depicting it, especially if you consider that even if all the players on the leaderboards are r55+, they are still an insignificant portion of the playerbase.

You are overexaggerating things, claiming untrue facts and ignoring what anyone else has to say.

Do yourself and anyone here a favor. Just start not caring about GW2 PvP, but for real this time.

bhagwad.4281:

You don’t think time spent grinding should be rewarded? Don’t PvE players get rewarded for the time they spent grinding?

No. It is a competitive gamemode in a game which is supposed to not encourage grinding.

If you enjoy grinding and you want to be rewarded to do so, you can join the champ train in PvE (still I don’t know if it will be as rewarding as it is now after patch) or perhaps go playing a korean/chinese MMO, where grinding is greatly encouraged and no fool developer wants it out of the game.

Super.2749:

I don’t think Anet recognize all the time this guy spent on skyhammer farming his rank 70. Anet why do you do this to him?

^- This! Poor guy with his “Elitism” Skyhammer-farming

sorrow.2364:

If you enjoy grinding and you want to be rewarded to do so, you can join the champ train in PvE (still I don’t know if it will be as rewarding as it is now after patch) or perhaps go playing a korean/chinese MMO, where grinding is greatly encouraged and no fool developer wants it out of the game.

Sorry, but this is an MMO. Grind needs to be rewarded, or else no one will play. Besides, the word “grind” means different things depending on who you ask. Some people talk about “playing just for fun”. Others find the grind process itself fun.

I’ve been a PvP’er from the early days and I play for rewards. Like most other people. This isn’t a MOBA.

What rewards? number on pvp panel and finisher? Well gz you will be rewarded after patch with highest finisher and number there is. And you have your unique reward of grinding fun that almost noone else got.

Leeto.1570:

When you first saw GW2 rank system you really thought that it will take more than 2 years for people to get max rank?
Few months ago everyone with above average rank was called skyhammer farmer now it suddenly means that player is skilled and deserves special reward?
You farmed your rank knowing that you get no rewards for it and that its just number on your PVP panel, guess what? Nothing will change after patch.
But seriously what do you want? Special rewards for doing same thing as everyone? Fine, but then delay it for another year cause i stopped caring about rank first time i heard how much rank points you need for dragon.
Old system was flawed and needed update they chose mid fifties cause thats where all who casually played since release are.
1.5 years of casual play is pretty logical to get max rank even if you are korean grinding mmo fan.
All “top” players have quitted already like 5 times now? Does that make first page of leaderboards empty? No.
When really skilled players quit the game i feel abit sad, but when people who just play alot quit? Nope not even slight change in emotions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9XTK3_n2Y

^^^^^^^ this, what someone in the forums have brains amazing…..

some of the skilled players i know like supcutie not even rank 70, and all the rank 70 players in this game pale in comparison to him. base on this stupid argument that only stupid rank farmers deserve to be rank 80 lol. in gw1 i only reach rank 10 (tiger) because of the long grind to reach top rank and its not fun to grind. all my friends move on, better games came out. at the end how many rank 15 are there? maybe 5-10? after how many years? 4? when all players have moved on this elite players didnt get recognized by the community coz the community is gone. incase of gw2, when the ladder implemented you will have the recognition you want w/o worrying bout rank finihser the only way ou can show of now players will see it your play style and armor you wear.

sorrow.2364:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Because I´m pretty much providing reasonable points as to how some of us players believe the system change should work it out.

Once again, I don´t care about what you do in your real life.

You’re not providing reasonable points.
You are just spitting out sentences ignoring facts and counter arguments anyone else is providing.

It has been proved that rank does not means factual experience when a threshold has passed, yet you’ve ignored it.
It has been proved that rank these days means just how much time you’ve past farming skyhammer, yet you didn’t have a flying f.
It has been proved that an high rank player (r70, perhaps) isn’t necessarily more skilled compared to a relatively low rank player (r50-r51).
It has been proved that r55+ players aren’t that much as you’re depicting it, especially if you consider that even if all the players on the leaderboards are r55+, they are still an insignificant portion of the playerbase.

You are overexaggerating things, claiming untrue facts and ignoring what anyone else has to say.

Do yourself and anyone here a favor. Just start not caring about GW2 PvP, but for real this time.

bhagwad.4281:

You don’t think time spent grinding should be rewarded? Don’t PvE players get rewarded for the time they spent grinding?

No. It is a competitive gamemode in a game which is supposed to not encourage grinding.

If you enjoy grinding and you want to be rewarded to do so, you can join the champ train in PvE (still I don’t know if it will be as rewarding as it is now after patch) or perhaps go playing a korean/chinese MMO, where grinding is greatly encouraged and no fool developer wants it out of the game.

Again, rank 80 shouldn´t be something that a large portion of playerbase is going to attain easily. I don´t mind about the talks you are doing about real skill and stuff. I have my own considerations about r70 players being more knowledgeable and experienced pvp-wide than r50.
It´s an MMO and the finisher should be for a small portion of dedicated pvp´ers, rather than the majority of population.

Like it or not, in guild wars 1 there were only very few dragons after 5 years, and here in 2 years most people is going to get it. Not saying dragon emote implies being the best, though its stupid to have it implemented when mostly everyone is going to have that finisher.

@super. You farmed skyhammer on Vengeance of the Fallen custom arena. You talk about yourself right?
@teutos. Never seen a constructive post about you yet. Keep playing that awesome class called mesmer, you will still get owned easily, then you can come to the forums and cry about elitism.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

ele meta, spirit meta, hambow, decap engi

yeah, you haven’t even playing pvp since launch if the furthest meta you go back to is ele. I barely reached rank 50 and know a lot more about the game than you do. Mindlessly grinding =/= skill & experience.

Oblivion.8307:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

ele meta, spirit meta, hambow, decap engi

yeah, you haven’t even playing pvp since launch. I barely reached rank 50 and know a lot more about the game than you do.

I´ve been playing since release.
Where do you stand in solo q leaderboard? Cause my hidden rating is on the top 10.
Also, remember how I crushed you on forest of nifhlel with your soft necro so many times? There goes the skill & experience

I haven’t played the game in a long time, so this must have been a while ago. Congratulations to you regardless, I’m sure you’re the master of pvp.

Oblivion.8307:

I haven’t played the game in a long time, so this must have been a while ago. Congratulations to you regardless, I’m sure you’re the master of pvp.

Not that long ago, talking about past August. Thanks for the congrats.
Of course not master of pvp, my topic is on a quite different theme.

I feel your pain, you had your dreams to make yourself famous and earn revenue with this game. Well, good luck in the next one.

is it rank 50 or 55 that gets instant dragon?

Anet implemented this change not for the top players but for the people R39 and above. It’s going to make the casuals (like me…) and low ranks happy but completely defeat the purpose of grinding further for some people (like those R55+).

Some play PvP for fun and some for the rank and titles. You can’t really satisfy everyone with each change, but what would you choose:

Satisfy the top 10% of existing PvP players and lose even more PvP playerbase (EU > NA in population).
Satisfy the 90% besides the top rankers and potentially get more existing PvEers to come into PvP and recruit new GW2 players based on attractive PvP prospects.

If you were Anet and wanted more people to play the game, losing some R55+ players is the lesser of 2 evils.

More PvP rewards and “paths” coming up to assist a PvE playstyle for those who have done a lot of PvP and would like to start into PvE comfortably.

I dont like the change.But what ever.In any case once this patch happens as planned there is no going back.EVERYONE will want to keep there finisher reguardless of the rank because its so easy to obtain.They should reduce it and keep tweaking it to find a happy medium….BTW not everyone is or was a skyhammer farmer…its being thrown around now like everyone in pvp did it…R56 2k tourneys..i’ll hot join to test a build but thats about it 2.8k games played..thats with about 3-4 3 mo+ breaks