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Posted by: Coffee.6394

Coffee.6394

the concept that one must have something targeted actively to use a skill on it is, IMHO, responsible for much of the imbalance and lack of creativity in gameplay. it’s an obsolete, broken mechanism.

if burst classes actually had to aim their skills instead of tab target select and then start button mashing, skill-based play would come to the forefront a lot more.

that gw2 has some skills that are ground targeted is a step in the right direction, but what i have seen some action-type mmos get right (nexon games come to mind) is that there is no reason in them to have anything targeted to fire…. ever. the player has to keep in mind where a skill will land and how in order to use it effectively. i can give examples…

(vindictus, that’s me lol)

fixed targeting allows for lazy gameplay, and it’s pretty much old hat. no longer needed. not realistic or skill-based, and it takes up about 5 buttons in gw2. fffffffff why?

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

actually gw2 has the mechanics to do just what you are asking already. TERA online being the last mmo i played, i cannot agree more with this

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Posted by: Seether.7285

Seether.7285

This is something that has been brought up several times and I agree that there should be a greater emphasis on skill shot abilities providing the big damage rather than abilities which have huge results and require no skill to use (i.e heartseeker).

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Posted by: Virgil Kemp.7056

Virgil Kemp.7056

The game just isn’t designed for it. That’s a much more action-oriented mechanic and this is an action-oriented RPG—It still has and was always intended to have those RPG elements.

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Posted by: Coffee.6394

Coffee.6394

no offense intended, mister kemp, but for the sake of argument, what is guild wars 2 intended as? it appears to me that as far as pvp is concerned, it’s intended as a mindless diversion, leave your brain at the door. the devs have proven to us that they will do exactly the opposite of what the playerbase wants time and again in this regard. personally, i myself might show up once a week or so for ~2 matches of spvp, then back to other games. it’s just meh. these forums are full of suggestions from the playerbase that continue to go unanswered. i figure i may as well add one to the heap.

the interesting part is that i’ve seen sharp post a two sentence neutral reply in a thread, with people acting like he’s the Second Coming of the Great Potato afterward. like “omg the devs actually do listen and care” when in reality he said nothing about anything, having not even read most of the posts.

putting a guild wars tag on this game is probably one of the most epic failures of mmo game developing in the last decade.

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Posted by: Ruufio.1496

Ruufio.1496

They should create an option manual target option. However, I think one currently exists that is player made. Haven’t actually tried it yet.

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Posted by: Virgil Kemp.7056

Virgil Kemp.7056

Why would I be offended by generalities concerning a host of changes you’d like to see which aren’t going to happen?

I just pointed out that the game was never marketed, hinted, suggested, or otherwise expected to have such non-rpg, full-action targetting.

I’m all for changes, but you might as well ask for jet-packs as such a change as Coffee proposes here. I was just pointing out the obvious. No offense intended if you want to talk about something which will positively never happen, which a majority of players don’t want anyway. Continue!

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Posted by: Klassic.8057

Klassic.8057

Ahh Vindictus, good times, my Lann was so kittening bad kitten ^^

Kanto

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Posted by: Coffee.6394

Coffee.6394

Why would I be offended by GENERALITIES concerning a HOST OF CHANGES you’d like to see which aren’t going to happen?

I just pointed out that the game was never marketed, hinted, suggested, or otherwise expected to have such NON-RPG, full-action targetting.

not sure if trolling, or just plain stupid.

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Posted by: Coffee.6394

Coffee.6394

Ahh Vindictus, good times, my Lann was so kittening bad kitten ^^

Lann was? oh no, don’t tell me you blew up your wep and went to go play gw2 =/

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Posted by: Virgil Kemp.7056

Virgil Kemp.7056

What you propose here is supported by a tiny minority of players, and Arenanet has never hinted or suggested they’d consider anything even remotely like it.

The game wasn’t built for what you propose. It wasn’t marketed to players as the sort of game you propose. Literally no one involved in the creation of the game has ever whispered of even thinking about what you propose. And it would be a radical alteration to the game, which already has established customers.

I’m not sure if your thread is trolling, or just plain stupid.

If anyone’s trolling, presumably it’s the guy with the outlandish idea with 0% of being picked up to any degree insulting others’ intelligence.

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Posted by: Coffee.6394

Coffee.6394

What you propose here is supported by a tiny minority of players, and Arenanet has never hinted or suggested they’d consider anything even remotely like it.

The game wasn’t built for what you propose. It wasn’t marketed to players as the sort of game you propose. Literally no one involved in the creation of the game has ever whispered of even thinking about what you propose. And it would be a radical alteration to the game, which already has established customers.

I’m not sure if your thread is trolling, or just plain stupid.

If anyone’s trolling, presumably it’s the guy with the outlandish idea with 0% of being picked up to any degree insulting others’ intelligence.

on the real? the state of this game is the insult. back to your bridge, thank you.

edit: many of us, including myself, spent thousands of hours playing guild wars 1 pvp, because it was fun. this is not. many are making suggestions in an attempt (seemingly FUTILE attempt) to help save this kittening pvp game. you’re not helping.

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Posted by: Avead.5760

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They should create an option manual target option. However, I think one currently exists that is player made. Haven’t actually tried it yet.

hmm just dont tab target anything while having autotargetting disabled.It cant get more manual than this since for many classes like the ele an extremely small only number of skills need a target.

Basically as i see it there are 2 groups.One that comes from traditional mmos like wow and likes that combat.These people seem they cant handle even the possibility of having a projectile miss from movement once in a while.
The other one has a more active game background like you mention and wants more skills changed into skillshots or in general more active aiming/avoidance in game
Gw2 currently supporst both playstyles to a degree but i doubt they will make the game much more active so many months after release..