Guild Wars 2

Zelulose.8695:

It’s really sad. Perma stealth is made able by the trait for initiative gain during stealth using d/p with skill 5(black powder) and skill 2 (heart seeker) this allows constant backstabbing and perma stealth while heartseeker can damage the enemy while putting you in stealth. When you add regen during stealth and Condi remove every three seconds from other traits its way op. Literally they can never die and will kill you if you can. Plz fix Anet

Lol, let me get this straight:

Thieves spec for max burst → OMG BACKSTAB NOOB .0001s REACTION TIME NERFNAO

Thieves spec into Shadow Arts / Acro trying to break away from burst → OMG THEY ARE UNKILLABLE!

Against any enemy who has a thief / knows how thief plays, the thief is at a huge disadvantage. Sure, a thief can recover health in stealth, maybe clear a condition or two, but during stealth they can’t attack lest they break stealth, all the while the enemy is recovering and getting skills of CD, ressing teammates, etc.

Also, with this build, you are no longer a mega-burster, meaning you’ll need to duck in and out of the fray to survive for much longer than it would take you otherwise. It allows you to make some more mistakes, at the cost of a fairly hefty damage loss which, again, a smart player will take advantage of.

One final tip: These D/P thieves….When they go in stealth, where do you think they will go? 99% of the time, they are headed right for your back. Fear bomb, knockback, AoE, or just Melee DPS behind you while turning rapidly. It’ll make it almost impossible for them to land a backstab, and when they do it’ll likely be for half damage while getting smacked in the face. If you see you auto-attack animation completing, congratulations you’re hitting the thief. Most thieves can survive only about 2 – 3 full autoattack chains even with high health against another power-based char. Oh, and don’t stand in the black powder.

Every time I read these threads I wonder if everyone has forgotten how to PvP. Rule number two is bring a buddy (number one is healer dies first, of course). I PvP with a stealth/steal build, so I’m a bit harder to kill than the burst thieves, but if you’ve got friends, I’m in trouble. Thieves look for people on their own, so Don’t be.

Prana.8690:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Please tell me how you avoid a teleport skill outside of anticipation.

There will be certain situations where you’re low on health and the opportunistic thief will 1-shot you. It happens to everyone.

That said, most people who play thieves in hot-join (I assume this is where you’re playing or you wouldn’t be asking this question) are usually pretty bad at the prof, so if you see one approaching you and he suddenly disappears, he’s probably just used Steal on you. Dodge (stun-break if necessary) and run away, and lay down an AOE if you can. The AOE just hurt him, and you’ve ruined his opener. He’s now relatively useless for the next 45 seconds.

Instant assumption of my skill level and does not even answer the question. Just read the line and assumed bad… You cannot counter teleport outside of anticipation. What you have listed is reaction. Thank you.

You avoid a teleport the same way you avoid any instant skill.
You don’t or you predict.
That’s all there is to it.
Whether it’s problematic or not is one thing, but that’s the reality if you want it.

ensoriki.5789:

You avoid a teleport the same way you avoid any instant skill.
You don’t or you predict.
That’s all there is to it.
Whether it’s problematic or not is one thing, but that’s the reality if you want it.

Instant skills = no skill…
Simply put.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

ensoriki.5789:

You avoid a teleport the same way you avoid any instant skill.
You don’t or you predict.
That’s all there is to it.
Whether it’s problematic or not is one thing, but that’s the reality if you want it.

Instant skills = no skill…
Simply put.

What’s the relevance to the topic specifically when every profession has instantaneous skills. It’s pretty moot to bring up unless you were trying to remove all of them from the game.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Prana.8690:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Please tell me how you avoid a teleport skill outside of anticipation.

There will be certain situations where you’re low on health and the opportunistic thief will 1-shot you. It happens to everyone.

That said, most people who play thieves in hot-join (I assume this is where you’re playing or you wouldn’t be asking this question) are usually pretty bad at the prof, so if you see one approaching you and he suddenly disappears, he’s probably just used Steal on you. Dodge (stun-break if necessary) and run away, and lay down an AOE if you can. The AOE just hurt him, and you’ve ruined his opener. He’s now relatively useless for the next 45 seconds.

Instant assumption of my skill level and does not even answer the question. Just read the line and assumed bad… You cannot counter teleport outside of anticipation. What you have listed is reaction. Thank you.

Apologies, I didn’t comprehend your question well enough.

Indeed, anticipation is the only option for instant-cast abilities, but that’s the case with all such things, not just Steal.

John Widdin.9618:

I understand it’s all he had going for him, since he ran when I was downed. but dang… That was 20k damage in the 2 seconds before he became visible, via what I assume to be use of quickness.

How did that guy do a Heartseeker right before the backstab ?

Faeyd.5094:

John Widdin.9618:

I understand it’s all he had going for him, since he ran when I was downed. but dang… That was 20k damage in the 2 seconds before he became visible, via what I assume to be use of quickness.

How did that guy do a Heartseeker right before the backstab ?

Didnt watch for context, but i assume d/p heartseeker through combo field, then backstab.