[FUG/SG/TDT] on the Jade Quarry
Claiming objectives - promotes hatred
[FUG/SG/TDT] on the Jade Quarry
Easier to do like a suggested, if there is no Basic buff running any other guild can claim the building/camp.
There are 3 reasons a guild will want to claim a camp, tower, keep or castle… 1 is that the guild wants it’s logo being displayed. 2 is that they want to help benefit their team/server. 3 is sabotage so nobody can claim it and provide the necessary buffs. I tend to believe in the first 2 reasons… I would like to see buffs but I cannot expect it all the time. However, it would be nice if Anet at the minimum is to also show the guild tag along with the logo. This will at least let others in the map knows which guild claimed it for better or for worst. And if the guild has no representative (guild member) in that map and non of the buffs are active, then the piece of land should be available for any other guild to claim it. Why allow a guild to claim the land and abandoned it?
@Shadow – A time delay is very useful and needed, because a guild usually first claims the objective, then starts activating buffs (making sure that there is a reason to activate buffs = we already have an objective that needs it), so they are not activated and wasted because someone already claimed it. Activating buffs takes some clicks and time, each one is activated with a separate button, and there is also the possibility that some buffs are not ready and need to be speed up, so a reasonable time to do those clicks are needed – that’s why I proposed a 10 min or so delay.
A good alternative would be to start that 10 min timer even later, when the objective comes under real threat, because most buffs are not needed until then, but that would be harder or impossible to develop, as the current white and orange swords should be used, and those show up even where there’s no threat or when is too late.
@SleepingDragon: Very likely, most guilds in this game, couldn’t keep a major objective 24/24h, so claiming should mean only “giving buffs”, hopefully gaining the gratitude of the team for that, also having the guild emblem displayed and – something more needed to encourage spending influence points and time in this. Most servers have enough guilds to keep buffs constantly, on major objectives at least, they just need more rewards to do that. But the point here is not denying other guilds to enable buffs on an objective, by locking it to a guild which clearly doesn’t care about the team, and shows that “proudly”. It’s about guild vs team, and WvW is a team game, or should be, right?
Thank You for your answers, I posted this because I’m very sad to see those huge “we don’t care” signs, the banners of those guilds. This can be solved only by Anet, and they are too busy, so this will take many more sad hours, until hopefully this will change, and claiming won’t encourage infighting in a team, making people leave the game, with bitter feelings.
[FUG/SG/TDT] on the Jade Quarry
This is a sad topic, because it’s a reason to divide the team – the team being the world, the server.
WvW is a team game. If individuals and guilds doesn’t cooperate – the team fails.
Claiming objectives it’s a huge temptation for egoistical behavior – let’s put my emblem there, I deserve it, we deserve it because … [add many “reasons” here].
It’s very bad, words cannot express this. A design flaw. GW2 removed hatred and encouraged cooperation with it’s “everyone receives his part of loot” from killings, but failed to do the same here.
Doesn’t matter how, but this needs to be solved, even completely removing this “feature” is better than keeping it this way. I submitted a proposal in WvW sections, which was then “properly” moved by moderators and burried and forgotten in the “Suggestions” subsection graveyard.
I don’t want to spend time in a game where my teammates simply doesn’t care, and they are proud to show that.
But that’s just me, or the others are wiser than to expect changes, because almost nobody supported this.
Go ahead then, and hate each other then. I’m completely helpless.
[FUG/SG/TDT] on the Jade Quarry