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Posted by: SynisterPsycho.2308

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I think this game needs dwarves and elves. I always play either one when I play other games. They are fun to use.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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the problem is one of lore.

Lore wise there is only 1 known dwarf left in the world and I don’t beleive elves have ever existed (I could be wrong) however sylvari are the “elves” of the current game

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Posted by: Mimir.4690

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No to elves. They do not fit in the current lore and let’s face it – they’re cliche.

As for dwarves, this has been debated before. It’s possible (despite only 1 living) but not likely.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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yeah technically there could be millions of the blighters hidden underground somewhere but its unlikely… the moletariat would have a fit if there was.

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Posted by: Wolfey.3407

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If there’s elves there better be fkn cookies being made >:[

@ Dwarves, there is a slim but possible chance for them to come back later. There are at least 50 threads about lore and possibilities of destonifying dwarves.

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Posted by: Chewablesleeptablet.3185

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No to elves. They do not fit in the current lore and let’s face it – they’re cliche.

As for dwarves, this has been debated before. It’s possible (despite only 1 living) but not likely.

I agree that elves are way cliche. I use to think it was cool to be an elf , but now I see that the only difference is in the ears. You cannot put elves in GW2 because Sylvari has taken some of elven lore. I’m in no way saying that Sylvari are elves. Sylvari is all about nature.

There is more than one dwarf living. They are just deep underground still battling destroyers, but they are in stone form and they are the last of there kind and the only dwarves that ever will exist.

Short story: Not Gonna Happen.

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Posted by: Galphar.3901

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All the Dwarves except Ogden were turned to stone to fight the first dragon that appeared in GW:EotN. So Ogden is the only one left. And Sylvari are the “Elf” race of Tyria.

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Posted by: gimmethegepgun.1284

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All the Dwarves except Ogden were turned to stone to fight the first dragon that appeared in GW:EotN. So Ogden is the only one left. And Sylvari are the “Elf” race of Tyria.

Uh, Ogden was turned to stone, what with the gray skin and the fact that he is 300 years old.
Also, in the “had everything, got full of themselves, and thus is now in decline” manner, humans are kind of the elves of GW2 :/

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Posted by: Adine.2184

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Dwarves are already in the game but all underwent the rite of the Great Dwarf 250 years ago turning themselves to stone so there are likely very few left .

As for elves the Sylvari are as close as your gonna get.Even the name is suggesting an elven nature as silva in Latin means woods and Silvia was a nature goddess .

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Posted by: Jack of Tears.9458

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YES! Let’s make this just like every other fantasy setting that way we don’t have to try anything new, ever!

Or, no – and just, no.

If Dwarves were brought back in the right way, maybe, but it’ll be a cold day in the mists before we see elves in Tyria. (though we may see Elvis, I suspect he’s hiding in Lion’s Arch)


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Posted by: Tekietee.5037

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Can I propose a title change for this topic?

Change it from “Need Dwarves and Elves races” to “Need Lore Book”

:D

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Posted by: codiac.5642

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+1 Dwarves

When Primordus is up for the killing, the great dwarf shall return and send the players on a series of quests to gather together the remaining dwarves and restore the great dwarf race to flesh.

Upon completion of this quest chain the dwarf race will be available to that player for new alts.

Anet, make it so!

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Posted by: Pixelpumpkin.4608

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If at some point in the future more dwarves would surface that would be pretty epic, but it would have to be at a point in time when the community is really, really convinced that this would never happen. Then it would have an impact. But they would all be NPCs.
Anyway, I don’t see it happen.

I usually play Orcs whenever available, but hey, they don’t have them here, so I got over it and picked something else.

I’d rather see some of the established races turned into player races. (Skritt, in particular. <3)

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Posted by: Rizzy.8293

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Elves are lame
Dwarves are extinct.

Deal with it bru.

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Posted by: Nova.7509

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I would rather play those Bird Warrior People (sorry, don’t know the lore well enough to remember the proper name) you see all over the place in the existing Guild Wars 2 world.

I don’t know if there would ever be an expansion, but that’d be a very cool race that can come with some real new profession possibilities! ( like samurai :P )

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Posted by: Nayah.9410

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You mean Tengu? I would like to see those and centaurs playable Zhed Shadowhoof descendants ftw

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Posted by: marnick.4305

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WoW is that way >>>>>>>>>>>

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Posted by: Seras.5702

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This is not WoW.

Dwarves are dead.

Elves…no.

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Posted by: Zeefa.3915

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Alright. Lorewise humans kinda fit the elves, like already mentioned. Aestheticly sylvari more or less fill the role. They are pretty and in tune with nature. They are however in many ways much more interesting than your common elves.

Dwarves are as mentioned stone, possibly with only few left underground. Very unlikely as a playable race.

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Posted by: Gandarel.5091

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+1 Dwarves

When Primordus is up for the killing, the great dwarf shall return and send the players on a series of quests to gather together the remaining dwarves and restore the great dwarf race to flesh.

Upon completion of this quest chain the dwarf race will be available to that player for new alts.

Anet, make it so!

They’ve been turned into stone by the Ritual of the Great Dwarf, to be able to battle Primordus’ champion and Primordus himself.

Your suggestion is that the ritual will be undone to battle Primordus. So much logic.

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Posted by: Gandarel.5091

Gandarel.5091

But actally… don’t keep saying Dwarves are dead or a very few left only. We can’t know that. What if their number is still almost as big as the Charrs?

They’ve inhabited all the territories that the Norn got now, and even more. That’s many many little Dwarves.

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Posted by: Pixelpumpkin.4608

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Primordus has to surface again some time anyway, if only so we can fight him. If/when that happens, dwarves (or… dwarf) could play a role. I would personally like to see more of them, but only as NPCs.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

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It never ceases to amaze me how quickly and easily this community succumbs to trolls.

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Posted by: Kojiden.8405

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There are story problems with having dwarves since they’re all dead but 1. In order to make dwarves playable they would first have to change that situation.

Concerning elves we already have 2 elf-like races. Sylvarri and Largos. I would like to see Largos as a playable race in the future.

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Posted by: Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981

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I think this game needs dwarves and elves. I always play either one when I play other games. They are fun to use.

…Those are awful reasons for wanting a race. Elves are overused and the dwarves are all underground fighting primordus as stone. Ogden is the last surface dwarf, and he’s a priory man.

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Posted by: Zyrphen.8970

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There is alot more area that carries on past the world map. You can see this map in the durmand priory place at lornar’s pass. It’s very possible the Dwarf survivors could be living in some far of place in the rest of tyria. +1 for dwarfs, no to elves

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Posted by: Rizzy.8293

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There is alot more area that carries on past the world map. You can see this map in the durmand priory place at lornar’s pass. It’s very possible the Dwarf survivors could be living in some far of place in the rest of tyria. +1 for dwarfs, no to elves

Dwarf survivors?
You’re talking as though something catastrophic and out of their control happened to them.

Dwarves chose to become Stone Dwarves to fight the great destroyer and no, thats not the same thing as a Dwarf.
Saying a Stone Dwarf is just a Dwarf with stone skin is saying a Branded Human is just a Human with branded skin.

The process of turning into a stone dwarf changes a dwarf physiologically and psychologically they’re not dwarves.

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Posted by: Adine.2184

Adine.2184

There is alot more area that carries on past the world map. You can see this map in the durmand priory place at lornar’s pass. It’s very possible the Dwarf survivors could be living in some far of place in the rest of tyria. +1 for dwarfs, no to elves

Dwarf survivors?
You’re talking as though something catastrophic and out of their control happened to them.

Dwarves chose to become Stone Dwarves to fight the great destroyer and no, thats not the same thing as a Dwarf.
Saying a Stone Dwarf is just a Dwarf with stone skin is saying a Branded Human is just a Human with branded skin.

The process of turning into a stone dwarf changes a dwarf physiologically and psychologically they’re not dwarves.

This is indeed correct . It is even mentioned by Ogden in a cut scene in guild wars 1 that the ritual changes the dwarves in body and mind which is why he he decided not to partake in it at first .

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Posted by: Rizzy.8293

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There is alot more area that carries on past the world map. You can see this map in the durmand priory place at lornar’s pass. It’s very possible the Dwarf survivors could be living in some far of place in the rest of tyria. +1 for dwarfs, no to elves

Dwarf survivors?
You’re talking as though something catastrophic and out of their control happened to them.

Dwarves chose to become Stone Dwarves to fight the great destroyer and no, thats not the same thing as a Dwarf.
Saying a Stone Dwarf is just a Dwarf with stone skin is saying a Branded Human is just a Human with branded skin.

The process of turning into a stone dwarf changes a dwarf physiologically and psychologically they’re not dwarves.

This is indeed correct . It is even mentioned by Ogden in a cut scene in guild wars 1 that the ritual changes the dwarves in body and mind which is why he he decided not to partake in it at first .

Skip to 47mins to hear Ogden saying it.

48:25 when the player acknowledges the difference between a dwarf and a stone dwarf.

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Posted by: MakeitNeil.4561

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the problem is one of lore.

Lore wise there is only 1 known dwarf left in the world and I don’t beleive elves have ever existed (I could be wrong) however sylvari are the “elves” of the current game

Dasorine is wrong. There are many other Dwarves. The problem is that they all are preserved in stone. That is the truth “Lore” wise. It is a possibility.

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Posted by: FlamingFoxx.1305

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^— It isn’t a possibility. They have ALL undertaken the rite of the dwarf. They are ALL stone, they have been changed body and mind and it’s quite obviously suggested that it is irreversible. They exist solely with the purpose of defeating Primordius and his minions and once they’ve accomplished that they’re likely cease to be ‘alive’.
Elves will never happen, Anet wanted to stay away from Western Fantasy tropes, as had been mentioned this is why we have the Sylvari. Sylvari are <3, we don’t need elves, elves are humans with pointy ears.

We already have a short race, they’re called Asura and they are 10000x better than dwarves, dwarves are ugly bearded short people…

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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This isn’t LOTRO. Dwarves are extinct.

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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After all dwarves eventually undertook the Right of the Great Dwarf, they lost their solidarity as a race. This comes directly from dev interview.

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Posted by: Arkham Creed.7358

Arkham Creed.7358

Gamer: What’s this? A MMO that is different from WoW? Awesome I have to try this.

one week later

Gamer: Why isn’t this game more like WoW?

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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Gamers are fickle creatures.

“I want my class unique and interesting but it should have what that other class has as well”

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Posted by: Chasind.3128

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Hmm then it’d be to much like those other games
Sylvari are the elves & asura are the dwarves – problem solved

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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New suggestion: A-net, give us a fake beard to put on my asura so I can run around with the beer stein and be my ghetto dwarf.

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Posted by: Aeri.5738

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Where is this living Dwarf?

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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He’s not really a “living dwarf”. He eventually did under go the Right as well. he is just the last one to interact with the surface world.

Ogden Stonehealer

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

Astral Projections.7320

For the elves, no

For the dwarves, maybe. It’s a entire world. It’s not impossible that some dwarves moved far away and lost contact with the dwarves in the Guild Wars 1/Guild Wars 2 known area. If they are far enough away they might not have known of Primordus and the other dwarves might not know of them. If they were completely separated, maybe the ritual don’t affect them since they didn’t consent to it. Some if these dwarves could then come back into the known areas. This map shows how small the known area is in comparison to the unknown.

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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A-net confirmed that all the dwarves eventually did go through the right.

edit: source for that interview

Q: It is said all dwarves who participated in invoking the Great Dwarf’s power to battle the Great Destroyer were turned to stone. Are there dwarves then who are not stone out in the world somewhere still (assuming then there were some dwarves who did not participate)? If so, how are interactions between them and their stone brethren?

Ree: All of the dwarves eventually participated in the ritual. There are no non-stone dwarves in Tyria.

http://www.talktyria.net/2011/08/11/sylvari-lore-interview-with-ree-soesbee-kristen-perry/

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Posted by: MeGaZlo.9516

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I think in the role of elves here are Largos. Some sort of uderwater dark elves… The graceful, mysterious. With long ears… You know…

Sylvari, btw, are somehow connected with the dragon Moldremoth, I guess, and are potentially bad.

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Posted by: Aeri.5738

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I really want to see dwarves.
A fantasy world just doesnt feel right without them – whether you like them or not

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

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Largos would be awesome to play can you imagine playing a thief largos?

Norn are the replacement for dwarves so that’s in the game already, drunken hyperbutch strong angry smelly men running around yelling at everything, yep they’re tall dwarves alright.

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

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Largos would be awesome to play can you imagine playing a thief largos?

Norn are the replacement for dwarves so that’s in the game already, drunken hyperbutch strong angry smelly men running around yelling at everything, yep they’re tall dwarves alright.

It’s fairly obvious Norns aren’t tall dwarves. The female Norns don’t have beards. ^^

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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A-net confirmed that all the dwarves eventually did go through the right.

edit: source for that interview

Q: It is said all dwarves who participated in invoking the Great Dwarf’s power to battle the Great Destroyer were turned to stone. Are there dwarves then who are not stone out in the world somewhere still (assuming then there were some dwarves who did not participate)? If so, how are interactions between them and their stone brethren?

Ree: All of the dwarves eventually participated in the ritual. There are no non-stone dwarves in Tyria.

http://www.talktyria.net/2011/08/11/sylvari-lore-interview-with-ree-soesbee-kristen-perry/

Your spelling is working on my nerves. “Rite” not right.

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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A-net confirmed that all the dwarves eventually did go through the right.

edit: source for that interview

Q: It is said all dwarves who participated in invoking the Great Dwarf’s power to battle the Great Destroyer were turned to stone. Are there dwarves then who are not stone out in the world somewhere still (assuming then there were some dwarves who did not participate)? If so, how are interactions between them and their stone brethren?

Ree: All of the dwarves eventually participated in the ritual. There are no non-stone dwarves in Tyria.

http://www.talktyria.net/2011/08/11/sylvari-lore-interview-with-ree-soesbee-kristen-perry/

Your spelling is working on my nerves. “Rite” not right.

…. How very interesting? But yoo shood get redy for a hard life of aggrivatshun kid. You won’t be able to change other peepl

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Posted by: castlemanic.3198

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I really want to see dwarves.
A fantasy world just doesnt feel right without them – whether you like them or not

That’s your opinion, other people are very thankful that there aren’t playable ‘classic’ fantasy races. Whether you like it or not, you can’t force an opinion on other people and call their opinions wrong.

Also, here is the only dwarf on the surface of tyria:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Ogden_Stonehealer.jpg

so in actuality, dwarves exist and you can see one, you just can’t play as them or see any other dwarves.

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Posted by: GoddessOfTheWinds.2937

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Dwarves are “extinct” (all in stones).
Elves are not possible lore wise. We have the sylvari which are the closest to what you ask.

So I’ll say it: no. It will never happen. We don’t need GW2 to turn into a WoW clone!

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Posted by: Amadan.9451

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i think this game is great because human are the cliche for elves, and we have instead faeries, aline midgets, viking giants and horned cats…

i vote and always will no to elves and especially dwarves…

for the OP there is always lord of the rings on line out there

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