Guild Wars 2

Dear Anet,

Could I humbly propose to you, the construction of a fight club arena or possible stadium instance for WvW? Many in the World vs World community enjoy and attend these inter-server scheduled events. Seeing as it’s far different than sPvP. For anyone not “in the know,” the sacred FC grounds are typically the stretch of land just west of the windmill in the southern portion of any given Borderland map, behind the orckitten whichever Borderland is agreed upon by the servers involved.

I have some ideas of my own, and encourage others to embellish upon them:
*If a simple arena, set-up could be as easy as recycling the old orb platform model from north camp, and placing it in the area with the ramps facing the opposite direction. That model is perfect for basic FC needs. Large circular platform area, with ascending ramps for optimum spectating. And it’s pretty much already the perfect size as is.
*If a full stadium, this could be taken steps far beyond and even made into its own instance (much like the WvW JP now is. Possibly even utilizing the very same gateway entrance). The options for this are literally endless in this particular set-up. My personal opinion, something cool and stylish would be best here. Like possibly an old crumbling gladatorial fashion mock-up (much like a far larger scale version of the one found in the JP). If desired, possibly even employing optional traps, pillars, etc. When not in use, it could possibly be used as a recreational area for the servers within that match up. A meet n’ greet location if you will. Assuming of course that everyone is invulnerable within the spectator area (which would really be nice, not wanting to be pelted by AoE or be mistakingly targeted from the fighting pit).

The sky is literally the limit here.

Edit: Anet, why is the word O-r-c-h-a-r-d omitted? O.o

My constructive comments/rant/rambling on what I feel would be best for the game and players.

Please not in a WvW borderland. Put in our capital city and make anyone entering the area ‘hostiled’ automatically and seen as an enemy. Or something so we can duel each other there. You can now practice vs other classes and communicate with them too, without having to confuse other members of WvW who do not agree/enjoy/want this style.

Or add a new vendor and a much larger map/mode to Spvp so we can get pve stats and roam there. Make 3-4 based on different aesthetics; A dark and misty graveyard, a woodland area, a large map covered in nothing but ruins. Make levels open up new ranges of exotics that already exist in PvE so you can gear up the same and there is a sense of progression and more importantly fullfilment that is necessary in a level based character progression mmo.
I feel this pvp is much more suited to dueling than WvW where a big part of the fun and immersion comes from the large and unexpected parts of the environment and not being confined to a boxing ring. I find it annoying when there are gvg swords on an underpopulated map. This is only AN’s fault for not providing a solid gvg function, NOT the players for providing their own content…. as criticisizing players for making their own content is batkitten crazy imo, which happens when these ad hoc duelings rings are set up somewhere they obviously don’t belong like the WvW ‘arena’ as they bring conflict due to differing interests. Some people can’t even see that there is a confliction of interests and GENUINELY BELIEVE that people should be able to duel in their own bubble without second thought. As stated, this is AN’s fault for not providing basic features for their customers.

I think they thought SPvp would get the gvg crowd and to an extent it did. But by separating different game modes by such a large gap (pve/wvw and spvp) players ended up going back to their ‘grind’ in pve because it is ultimately fulfilling rather than instantly making a new character and giving them a free amulet… this is good too, but doesn’t cater adaquately to what we are talking about, and the ‘freedom’ to choose your pvpstyle may have ended up kicking AN in the kitten in the longrun.

It would totally ruin the feel of WvW for me if polished sparkly d00l3rz are meeting up for handbags at dawn with a dueling clan tag and only dueling in a bl. And being supported by AN to exclude themselves would just be a bad decision all round when they could put a little more effort in and come up with a solution that benefits everyone while also making the game better.

I would love to hear some debate and discussion about these topics, and whether they are progressive or counter-intuitive to GW2 as a whole. The game has undoubtedly set the bar higher than anything before it in terms of combat mechanics and mmo combat fluidity (imo). I’m not willing to discuss with ‘I have x certificate in y practice in z game, therefore my logic overrides yours’ duelers who cannot reason other than say that I’m trolling to go against the grain. This. Actually. Happened.

I do support the idea of same-server bouts being an option. This was something I’d genuinely neglected to think about entirely, but I know interest in it has been expressed. This type of venue would be perfect for that. It would allow for even more tactics training and build test options.

I did lightly touch upon the multiple terrain, or even adjustable terrain, idea. One in which you expanded upon in your post. This is a fantastic possibility, and is a given one in my mind.

As for the rest of the your post, you seem to be more debating why it is Fight Club exists. Which while slightly off the original topic, is certainly not beyond reproach in context. I do know that no matter what happens, regardless of whether or not Anet directly endorses them, they’re here to stay. Now, my approach here in my original appeal is a nudge in letting them know that there is definite possibility for added content, and if played right, possibly a lure to bring more people into WvW in general. A far better one than the widely unpopular mandatory WvW for mapping purposes lure we have currently in my opinion.

There are those that will sPvP all day, but disdain WvW, and vice versa (myself included). sPvP in my mind is little more than “country-club PvP” in comparison to the fight club circuit in WvW. The balance system in sPvP acts as a handicap between two combatants. Some may like that aspect of that particular medium, as it lets players focus on one thing, honing individual skill. Where as I prefer the more no holds barred nature that is prevalent in WvW. I want to face an opponent at their absolute best and fullest of their potential. Without counter-balance or mitigation of stats or damage. If I’m a fresh lvl 80 and decide to shoot my mouth off to another player in WvW who is rocking a full set of exotics and complete ascended trinkets, I expect the bouts outcome is surely going to reflect my inevitable follow-up foot-in-mouth stuffing, lol.

The things fight club has to offer also far exceed that which sPvP currently does. Which you touched upon in your lamentation about GuildvsGuild combat within WvW. The possibility of GvG within WvW is one of the many perks of the setting, and serves valuable purpose as a large scale training tool for the guilds participating. Is it right that these events are “queue’ing up ur BL”? Meh… I did suggest that it be provided a separate instance lol.

My bottom line question is why does my proposal even need to exist in the first place? Fight Clubs within World vs World not only exist, they’re quite popular. Why is Anet not moving in to capitalize on a blatant opportunity for some new expanded content?