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Posted by: WantedMan.4076

WantedMan.4076

Ready! Fight!

Messin Around 80 Mesmer
Avanise 80 Ranger
Devona’s Rest RED Guild

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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

Hai RED

I am sitting in queue, have sadface, please send cookies.

Delarme
Apathy Inc [Ai]

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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

SCORE PLZ.

Some of us are still stuck in work

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Lvl 80 Human Elementalist – Tzenkai [GF]

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Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059

Gab Superstar.4059

Apparently we lost [WP] to Kaineng.

With PRO and GASM gone too, I don’t know how much we can do this match up.

Very Good Detectives [VGD]
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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

We have queues in all 4 maps right now, why are people transfering ughhhg.

Delarme
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Posted by: Deano.7913

Deano.7913

What is the initial score?

[WP] Wisenheimer Prime | Guild Leader
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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

kaineng has 50% of the score, ebay 35%, dr 15%.

Delarme
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Posted by: Seige.4862

Seige.4862

Wonderful another zerg server……

Seige
AD(Anonymous Defender)- Devonas Rest
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Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059

Gab Superstar.4059

Looks like another boring week for DR…

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Posted by: airstu.2579

airstu.2579

Get used to the spawn camping. I think they call it fight club.

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Posted by: Dhampyr.2104

Dhampyr.2104

Wonderful another zerg server……

Oh, the irony… xD

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Posted by: WantedMan.4076

WantedMan.4076

Well looks like it is not going good for DR.. I hope we can get some close battles this week!

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Posted by: ShadowSoljer.6524

ShadowSoljer.6524

Current score, good fights so far.

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Posted by: WantedMan.4076

WantedMan.4076

Thanks for the update on the score.. I hate being at work on reset days..

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Devona’s Rest RED Guild

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Posted by: Ninya.3942

Ninya.3942

First time I’ve seen anyone take SM back from WM after they initially took it. RE, SoS and others are having some fun on DR borderland taking back cliffside…heck of a defense there! Shout out to my ele buds helping defend our treb and wall

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Posted by: Ethersin.3270

Ethersin.3270

Best wishes to everyone from NEO Alliance and the server of Kaineng.

GL of [RE] Rethesis
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Posted by: JudgeD.5673

JudgeD.5673

Well, EB is putting up a terrific defense, I’ll say that for them. Spent over 2 hrs in EB BL right after reset fighting EB north of Bay. These guys do not give up.

The Robertsons – Julie, Lyana, Adrian, and Lewis
CrSy/LaWz
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Posted by: Archer.1658

Archer.1658

Well this is fun, Kaineng zergs of 30+ everywhere. Sigh, I honestly can’t believe how many people bandwagoned to this server.

Çookies – Mesmer – [GF]/Ebay
Everyone is bad but me.
Anet ruined Gw2.

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Posted by: DivineBeing.2086

DivineBeing.2086

Score updates please. There are a lot of people watching this match up!

Thanks!

Blackgate
Lightdivinity – Level 80 Bunker Elementalist
Reshaos – Level 80 Power Necromancer

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Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059

Gab Superstar.4059

Score updates please. There are a lot of people watching this match up!

Thanks!

It’s pretty much over already. DR lost too many guilds (even some to Kaineng), and Kaineng grossly outnumbers both DR and EB.

520 | 11408* Kaineng
40 | 5494 EB
120 | 4058 DR

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Posted by: Kerithlan.1659

Kerithlan.1659

Well this is fun, Kaineng zergs of 30+ everywhere. Sigh, I honestly can’t believe how many people bandwagoned to this server.

In my personal opinion, not enough.

I think 50% of every servers’ players should transfer to Kaineng.

Fosthe — Sylvari Elementalist
Men of Science [MoS] – Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: Chaster Sharpshooter.3640

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640

I need to give props to DR, for being the last man standing.

This was a great fight DR, you guys really brings back the old memory

PS: enjoyed my meat grinder at Longview? xD

“To learn is what I need, to teach those who needs to learn is my duty …”
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Posted by: Archer.1658

Archer.1658

Well this is fun, Kaineng zergs of 30+ everywhere. Sigh, I honestly can’t believe how many people bandwagoned to this server.

In my personal opinion, not enough.

I think 50% of every servers’ players should transfer to Kaineng.

I agree, if their plan is to make it to Tier 1 and Crush it they will need more transfers, which they will get every time they continually climb up, people like to win and will join winning servers, it will never change. Not saying there aren’t loyal guilds to ones server.

Çookies – Mesmer – [GF]/Ebay
Everyone is bad but me.
Anet ruined Gw2.

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Posted by: critickitten.1498

critickitten.1498

This match-up doesn’t seem like it was well picked. Kaineng is on a completely different level in terms of player count, this matchup is already inevitable.

Remember when our developers talked about “strengthening the core game”?
How’d that work out for us so far?
Now let’s try some ideas that will really work.

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Posted by: Kerithlan.1659

Kerithlan.1659

Well this is fun, Kaineng zergs of 30+ everywhere. Sigh, I honestly can’t believe how many people bandwagoned to this server.

In my personal opinion, not enough.

I think 50% of every servers’ players should transfer to Kaineng.

I agree, if their plan is to make it to Tier 1 and Crush it they will need more transfers, which they will get every time they continually climb up, people like to win and will join winning servers, it will never change. Not saying there aren’t loyal guilds to ones server.

No, you misunderstand. I think the whole thing is funny. I don’t care about tiers or who they crush or even if they do. I just think the idea of having literally half of the WvW population on one server is downright hilarious.

Fosthe — Sylvari Elementalist
Men of Science [MoS] – Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: Jaaded.1870

Jaaded.1870

I need to give props to DR, for being the last man standing.

This was a great fight DR, you guys really brings back the old memory

PS: enjoyed my meat grinder at Longview? xD

Haha OMG that meat grinder was pretty good!!! First time I have encountered that there strangely enough!! I did have a lot of fun tonight for the couple of hours in DRB. I just logged for bed here but Cmmdr Cannalon is leading the charge now!!!

Looking forward to the fun matchup Kain, its proving interesting and trying to find more strategies to get around all the zergs <3

Lilj/Liljaad
SoCo
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Posted by: Neeho.3859

Neeho.3859

I need to give props to DR, for being the last man standing.

This was a great fight DR, you guys really brings back the old memory

PS: enjoyed my meat grinder at Longview? xD

Had a blast. No, really…

:P

Ho/Neeho/Zorho/Hodown/Ephodemic
[SoCo] Solum Contego SoCo loco style!
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Posted by: luminathor.2839

luminathor.2839

WTB fast forward button so Kaineng can continue their ascent through the tiers.

Really not keen on being a ‘free badge dispenser’ this week, lol.

Anyway, best of luck everybody, have fun out there.

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Posted by: iMelon.6518

iMelon.6518

Huge shoutout to that DR group that was fighting us on Kaineng’s Southwest supply camp. That was an amazing fight that lasted for 10 minutes and you guys got the camp.

Easily the best fight I’ve had in a long time

Guardian Melon
[Cryptic Omen]
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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

Man tonight was insane. Awesome. But insane.

FTF went Kain BL and at one point held half the map, but as the night drew nearer and nearer it was like a beast was awakening. We watched from Kain BL as our own borderland fell… while Ehmry struggled just holding both north towers and garrison, Kain turned on DRs lane, picked up bay in what see like only moment. We we’re being pushed back, 20man+ zergs in Lowlands barraging our supply camps south of hills, while we repeatedly exchanged north east supply furiously for any supply we could manage to fortify hills. Maybe, just maybe we can hold.

By 9:00pm (PST) Our Borderland was all Blue (We’re Green btw). In Kain BL we had lost all control of north east supply and lowlands again was still on a constant barrage and worst yet, they had just about broken through the hills outer north gate.

They broke through…We tried stealth bombs, choke holds, time-warp bombs. We tried flame field combo’d dagger bombs. (only had around 10-15 able at this point, the rest we’re concentrated on manning what siege we had left before inner was broken through as well). By 9:30 FTF and those few brave enough side and run it into lords to prepare whatever siege we could to hold. We barely squeezed out 2 ballista 1 arrow cart and (i think) 1 cata from the 124 supply we had in the keep and whatever we had on us. We we’re reduced to about 12-15 total inside lords. We said our GG’s and prepared for the bill lol.

I’ve got video of the zerg rushing over the bridge, i’ll try and post it soon (probably crap quality we’ll see). But let me say this…

They we’re too many, they managed to give us a good defense through out the NA primetime and we made a good push, but time ticked away and things turned upside down. They managed to hold DRs lane at bay the entire time while they slowed our advances all the way till we held garrison and the entire east side. And still they pushed, more and more… Till they took garrison, then dawns, then complete control of north. And guess whats the worst part…. I didnt even see any WM tags. Im only now hearing stories of their tactics.

This is far stronger then any server i have ever seen before. This will destroy Maguuma, it will Crush Yaks Bend, and Dragonbrands night crew has got nothing to say. Prepare for the worst. This is a Tier 1 server if i’ve ever seen one (never been anywhere but ehmry, and we’ve only seen T4).

We gave it our best shot, we had a kitten ton of fun holding till the end over here at FTF. Would like to make some shout outs to [GH], [zZz], [PURG], [nerv], and a bunch others for helping out on Kain BL.

Looking forward to the rest of the week, although it most likely will not be good haha. Will be posting some vids if im able.

See you on the battlefield.

Ehmry Bay – Good Fights Guild Leader
Lvl 80 Sylvari Guardian – Tzenjin [GF]
Lvl 80 Human Elementalist – Tzenkai [GF]

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Posted by: Archer.1658

Archer.1658

Well this is fun, Kaineng zergs of 30+ everywhere. Sigh, I honestly can’t believe how many people bandwagoned to this server.

In my personal opinion, not enough.

I think 50% of every servers’ players should transfer to Kaineng.

I agree, if their plan is to make it to Tier 1 and Crush it they will need more transfers, which they will get every time they continually climb up, people like to win and will join winning servers, it will never change. Not saying there aren’t loyal guilds to ones server.

No, you misunderstand. I think the whole thing is funny. I don’t care about tiers or who they crush or even if they do. I just think the idea of having literally half of the WvW population on one server is downright hilarious.

I think it’s rather pathetic that Anet allows this. But I could see how people will find it hilarious, especially all those in Tier 1 who will be like wtf bbqsauce.

Çookies – Mesmer – [GF]/Ebay
Everyone is bad but me.
Anet ruined Gw2.

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Posted by: Kerithlan.1659

Kerithlan.1659

snip

Just remember the rally-cry of our great leader, Trahearne: “This won’t end well.”

Fosthe — Sylvari Elementalist
Men of Science [MoS] – Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

Just remember the rally-cry of our great leader, Trahearne: “This won’t end well.”

LOOOOL totally

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Lvl 80 Human Elementalist – Tzenkai [GF]

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Posted by: WrathOfGod.4695

WrathOfGod.4695

Man tonight was insane. Awesome. But insane.

FTF went Kain BL and at one point held half the map, but as the night drew nearer and nearer it was like a beast was awakening. We watched from Kain BL as our own borderland fell… while Ehmry struggled just holding both north towers and garrison, Kain turned on DRs lane, picked up bay in what see like only moment. We we’re being pushed back, 20man+ zergs in Lowlands barraging our supply camps south of hills, while we repeatedly exchanged north east supply furiously for any supply we could manage to fortify hills. Maybe, just maybe we can hold.

By 9:00pm (PST) Our Borderland was all Blue (We’re Green btw). In Kain BL we had lost all control of north east supply and lowlands again was still on a constant barrage and worst yet, they had just about broken through the hills outer north gate.

They broke through…We tried stealth bombs, choke holds, time-warp bombs. We tried flame field combo’d dagger bombs. (only had around 10-15 able at this point, the rest we’re concentrated on manning what siege we had left before inner was broken through as well). By 9:30 FTF and those few brave enough side and run it into lords to prepare whatever siege we could to hold. We barely squeezed out 2 ballista 1 arrow cart and (i think) 1 cata from the 124 supply we had in the keep and whatever we had on us. We we’re reduced to about 12-15 total inside lords. We said our GG’s and prepared for the bill lol.

I’ve got video of the zerg rushing over the bridge, i’ll try and post it soon (probably crap quality we’ll see). But let me say this…

They we’re too many, they managed to give us a good defense through out the NA primetime and we made a good push, but time ticked away and things turned upside down. They managed to hold DRs lane at bay the entire time while they slowed our advances all the way till we held garrison and the entire east side. And still they pushed, more and more… Till they took garrison, then dawns, then complete control of north. And guess whats the worst part…. I didnt even see any WM tags. Im only now hearing stories of their tactics.

This is far stronger then any server i have ever seen before. This will destroy Maguuma, it will Crush Yaks Bend, and Dragonbrands night crew has got nothing to say. Prepare for the worst. This is a Tier 1 server if i’ve ever seen one (never been anywhere but ehmry, and we’ve only seen T4).

We gave it our best shot, we had a kitten ton of fun holding till the end over here at FTF. Would like to make some shout outs to [GH], [zZz], [PURG], [nerv], and a bunch others for helping out on Kain BL.

Looking forward to the rest of the week, although it most likely will not be good haha. Will be posting some vids if im able.

See you on the battlefield.

He told it so well.

Biggg shout out to DR and EB tonight in Kain BL. Our guild [CO] had one heck of a time, and we knew that if we kept pushing and keeping the pressure on eventually someone will crack. It was HELL to defend against multi zergs from both DR and EB and we knew that our last resort was to not lose faith, keep NW tower and turn the tides.

On a side note I am going to post a video with some of the WvW tonight in Kain BL, check it out when it’s posted.

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Posted by: Chaster Sharpshooter.3640

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640

WTB fast forward button so Kaineng can continue their ascent through the tiers.

Really not keen on being a ’free badge dispenser’ this week, lol.

Anyway, best of luck everybody, have fun out there.

you guys got alot of free badges from us for 8 weeks straight

time to pay up

PS: don’t worry, we’ll just stay here for one week.

“To learn is what I need, to teach those who needs to learn is my duty …”
Chaster the Scarred – Leader of [SoS] Guilds
Server: Kaineng | Recruitment Status: Open

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Posted by: Jeda.5209

Jeda.5209

Score Update.

Nice seeing AOD, RED and the rest of DR again. Didnt see Pro guys, yet.

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Posted by: brooks.1875

brooks.1875

Great fights tonight in ehm bl, nice job on the ninja of bay dr.

Afro the Puff – Elementalist – Kain

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Posted by: Reido Kyuuten.4709

Reido Kyuuten.4709

Score Update.

Nice seeing AOD, RED and the rest of DR again. Didnt see Pro guys, yet.

[PRO] protocol is on DB now

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Posted by: Jinks.2057

Jinks.2057

Woot new people to kill

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Posted by: Ashuri.1387

Ashuri.1387

Oh the irony in all of this. It feels nice to be up against DR again, but apparently they are not the same as before (numbers) so its no fun. The guilds who have been with Kaineng since our loosing days have been looking forward to it. Sadly Kain is on a whole other level and is still looking for the right place in tiers. I just want to say yes we have gotten some transfers in but remember when we didn’t have these numbers we still put up one hell of a fight back in the DR/Kain/FC days. Those same ppl who worked so hard then are still here working hard!! To anyone who has transferred to Kain welcome, I hope the ppl here are being nice. I know when I took a week vacation in another server with my guildees we had some ppl telling us to leave. So hopefully no one experiences that. Regardless of the numbers lets try to keep the bickering to a limit and we will be out of your hair’s soon Kaineng is still working its way up to a spot where it is balanced.

Kaineng [CNB] Commander/Guild Leader <3
Nyx Petalouda – Mesmer
Let’s play nice kittens<3

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Posted by: Dhampyr.2104

Dhampyr.2104

Score Update.

Nice seeing AOD, RED and the rest of DR again. Didnt see Pro guys, yet.

[PRO] protocol is on DB now

I did see one [PRO] guy tonight… not posting this screenie to poke fun (couldn’t grab the snapshot until you were down), the odds were in our favor by about 3:1 and he did a great job holding us off. Kudos to you for sticking on your server, dude.

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Posted by: BoAKaN.6052

BoAKaN.6052

Anyone have the current score? I am curious.

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Posted by: WrathOfGod.4695

WrathOfGod.4695

Anyone have the current score? I am curious.

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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

camping spawns and laughing at you with 15+ waiting outside.

Classy Kain. Bandwagons ftw…

Ehmry Bay – Good Fights Guild Leader
Lvl 80 Sylvari Guardian – Tzenjin [GF]
Lvl 80 Human Elementalist – Tzenkai [GF]

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Posted by: ndrangles.5183

ndrangles.5183

god. i guess i was just underinformed, cause i honestly thought this week was gonna be a more even matchup. i’ve been wvwing so much less ever since we became the zerg. here all my hopes were up, but now it looks like another week of popping in for 5 minutes to farm jp ori. -_- really cannot wait for these transfer shenanigans to settle down.

Majyyks [Os] – NSP

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Posted by: lcc.9374

lcc.9374

Now i didnt expect a score like this………

I guess our story of “Revenge” against the Devonas shall end in an anti-climax

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Posted by: Aziza.9870

Aziza.9870

To the Ehmry Bay Ele fighting in Kaineng on the road between Stargrove and Godslore about 10ish est:
You took on on a guardian and another ele. Great job, well played! You clearly know your class in PvP and Grym & Zizi salute you! Best encounter of our evening. Next time we meet I hope I am the one who lives. If I do it was from watching you after you sent me to dirt nap.

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Posted by: Siege.4280

Siege.4280

Hello Kaineng

Its been a while my old buddy. In case you don’t know who I am or forgot. I’m a commander for [RED]. Well not so much anymore stuck with a netbook atm cant really play.

But instead of crying cause you gained a bunch or guilds and we lost a bunch of guilds. I wanted to say good job. What ever you did it has worked. And I hope that if you hit a brick wall like we did you don’t see fallout. And maybe you wont with free transfers getting removed.

But I’m going to get back to killing your member’s regardless. Maybe we will see you again after this week is over and maybe not.

Lead Officer Pieg [RED]
Commander Pieg [RED]
Loyal Devona’s Rest Member

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Posted by: StormWolf.7645

StormWolf.7645

But instead of crying cause you gained a bunch or guilds and we lost a bunch of guilds. I wanted to say good job. What ever you did it has worked. And I hope that if you hit a brick wall like we did you don’t see fallout. And maybe you wont with free transfers getting removed.

Honestly? What we “Did” was be very welcoming. XD Can’t really think of anything else…It started by being last place but winning T8, which attracted us attention. Then as we went through each Tier Guilds would join us after we defeated their Server. I think a lot of that was the atmosphere we would often give on the forums…We were very humble and understanding of their strengths and would near always offer compliments. The “Fight Clubs” each week undoubtedly helped attract eyes to us as well. I have very little doubt we have “Fairweather” Players on the Server…But a lot of folks may well be surprised how many “Serious” Guilds have come here and asked questions…they liked what they heard and only then did their Guild come over.

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Posted by: Plutonium.1308

Plutonium.1308

Was a fun first night, if devona could have held something in their homeland it could have been closer, but the night coverage thing would have resulted in the same morning look. If you don’t hit a wall i think kain will rise to tier 2. I was amazed how many underleveled folks you had, we were looking for guild tags to see if it was going to be a good fight or not. There were roaving groups of CO you had to watch out for.. and groups of up arrows you could crush under your boots. Wild first day.

You’ll find ehmry doesn’t give up though.

Observe Adapt Overcome
[FTF]Danke Bitte