Guild Wars 2

I honestly don’t see how JQ NA can support that many primetime players. When we were there, we had 2-4 hour queues during primetime(the main reason for us leaving JQ). Yes, we left, but that gap was filled by other primetime guilds. Did the smaller/non-guilded players just stop playing in WvW or something?

I have a feeling the NA primetime queues are going to be ridiculous again, someone messed up on their math somewhere. PRX takes up a full BL on their own, and SF takes up half of a BL from what I saw(if they came with allies, then probably the whole BL as well).

Good pickups by JQ regardless if queues aren’t an issue. Wish our old server the best of luck to that #1 spot.

Aodh.6418:

I’m amazed at all of the posts defending all of these major transfers into SoS/JQ. I’m not upset if Blackgate moves down a server, so don’t take this the wrong way but… People keep mentioning this “goal” of being in a Tier 1 server. What good is a goal if you don’t accomplish it yourself? Moving a guild to an already #1/#2 server is like buying a legendary from the TP. Someone mentioned how horrible it would be to transfer a whole guild to Blackgate only to have them move down to Tier 2. What came next was amazing. “They’d have to spend real money to move back to tier 1”. Are you kidding me? What happened to playing the game and actually EARNING a T1 spot?

If these major guild’s real goal is to be part of a Tier 1 server maybe they should earn it. I’m going to say one more time here so nobody gets the wrong idea: I play on Blackgate. I don’t care if I’m in T1, T2, or T8. As long as there are people to play against I’m happy.

Yeah, I made those comments. Some people do play like that, hence the whole ‘bandwagoning’ thing. I wouldn’t play like that, but some people do. You can’t control the way someone wants to play. Yes, its sad, but its the choice they make, just like people make the choice to buy legendarys on the TP. A lot of people in this world want things to come to them without trying or having little to no difficulty – welcome to human nature (I’m not saying that’s the transfers’ motive mind you).

Nobody knows what’s going to happen, and that’s the gist of it. Server moves are great, more numbers are great, but assuming ANYTHING about the next matchup is a mistake.

Also, to be fair, Strike Force, and PRX both earned wins in t1 on their own when with SBI and SoS/HoD. Both of these guilds worked hard, fought hard, and proved that they can hold their own. They don’t need JQ to win; they both beat us at different times. If they’re joining us now for the satisfaction of hopefully beating SoS, then they’ve earned it IMO.

They are dead set on beating SoS. New Year’s week shows JQ can defend what they get during EU prime so it’s quite possible for SoS to lose. If they do win, I commend them for doing so.

Anyways, good luck on getting new transfers Blackgate!

First time we have had queues in a long time were last Friday night. Every one was hyper to get some BG action. Since last Friday night they have died back down. I am sure we will have queues this weekend at times but they are never long. During the week at any given time day or night we can have out manned buffs. During NA eves when I play especially I see out manned buffs on the BL’s. It’s remarkable we have stayed in t1 as long as we have. I am sure there is going to be some craziness over the next few weeks but things will settle down.

Indo.8629:

I honestly don’t see how JQ NA can support that many primetime players. When we were there, we had 3-4 hour queues during primetime. Yes, we left, but that gap was filled by other primetime guilds. Did the smaller/non-guilded players just stop playing in WvW or something?

I have a feeling the NA primetime queues are going to be ridiculous again, someone messed up on their math somewhere. PRX takes up a full BL on their own, and SF takes up half of a BL from what I saw(if they came with allies, then probably the whole BL as well).

Good pickups by JQ regardless if queues aren’t an issue. Wish our old server the best of luck to that #1 spot.

Indo.8629:

I honestly don’t see how JQ NA can support that many primetime players. When we were there, we had 2-4 hour queues during primetime(the main reason for us leaving JQ). Yes, we left, but that gap was filled by other primetime guilds. Did the smaller/non-guilded players just stop playing in WvW or something?

I have a feeling the NA primetime queues are going to be ridiculous again, someone messed up on their math somewhere. PRX takes up a full BL on their own, and SF takes up half of a BL from what I saw(if they came with allies, then probably the whole BL as well).

Good pickups by JQ regardless if queues aren’t an issue. Wish our old server the best of luck to that #1 spot.

As we’ve said many times the queues over the weeks are non-existant. We may get a queue of 5 minutes in primetime. On reset max was 15 minutes for me. We like every other server (I believe) have had our losses of people to other games. Since we had so many people our losses may have been greater than you realise.

Our dedicated picked up and kept at it. Long after people thought that we would fold. Why because that’s just part of being a honey badger, that’s why.

Congrats on your guild pick ups JQ. I’m genuinely happy for your server, albeit disappointed that BG wasn’t the benefactor. Ah well, it’s all good. I’m calling it now though. With the help of RG vacationing on JQ this week, I predict a big JQ win in the next match and a re-take of the #1 spot.

Such a dang shame that some guilds want an easy way out by stacking servers :/.

Good luck BG. I will be cheering for you to teach these transfers that you aren’t a server to be overlooked. I have seen you guys in action and it is definitely a force to be reckoned with.And this whole “not sure if they would stay in tier 1” crap is just that crap. This is the2nd time they went to tier 1. The last time they dropped to tier 2 and dominated it for 7 weeks straight. So don’t state that crap. They aren’t “new to tier 1”.

MainVoyage.5924:

Such a dang shame that some guilds want an easy way out by stacking servers :/.

Good luck BG. I will be cheering for you to teach these transfers that you aren’t a server to be overlooked. I have seen you guys in action and it is definitely a force to be reckoned with.And this whole “not sure if they would stay in tier 1” crap is just that crap. This is the2nd time they went to tier 1. The last time they dropped to tier 2 and dominated it for 7 weeks straight. So don’t state that crap. They aren’t “new to tier 1”.

Thanks for the support and excellent observation. I’m afraid it will likely fall on deaf ears though. Such is the way of things. As I said before, it’s all good though. We’ll keep fighting.

Churros.7196:

After all the guilds finally transfer over, its going to be interesting to see who is going to win between JQ and SoS. I feel kinda bad for BG though , this has to be the worst timing to announce paid transfers for them. They come up and try to recruit to be competitive in T1, but the announcement completely screws them over.

Nah, BG are pretty strong. If they’re smart, they’ll look to capitalise on the JQ/SoS fight since we’ll go after each other hammer and tongs regardless of the score. 3rd position can be the best position to be if you keep yourself in striking distance.

Sacrx.6721:

choices choices. JQ or SOS. SOS or JQ… hmmm

SoS and you get to own PRX. Again.

I hear your open field tactics are something to be seen. I’d rather not be on the other side of that, lol.

Aodh.6418:

I’m amazed at all of the posts defending all of these major transfers into SoS/JQ. I’m not upset if Blackgate moves down a server, so don’t take this the wrong way but… People keep mentioning this “goal” of being in a Tier 1 server. What good is a goal if you don’t accomplish it yourself? Moving a guild to an already #1/#2 server is like buying a legendary from the TP. Someone mentioned how horrible it would be to transfer a whole guild to Blackgate only to have them move down to Tier 2. What came next was amazing. “They’d have to spend real money to move back to tier 1”. Are you kidding me? What happened to playing the game and actually EARNING a T1 spot?

If these major guild’s real goal is to be part of a Tier 1 server maybe they should earn it. I’m going to say one more time here so nobody gets the wrong idea: I play on Blackgate. I don’t care if I’m in T1, T2, or T8. As long as there are people to play against I’m happy.

SoS and JQ needed a break I guess. Each side has players playing WvW 8+ hours straight just to hold their BL. I welcome any transfer to SoS , JQ, or BG because it will make the fights more interesting. Maybe it is time for SoS to get out of the hot seat for another week. SoS really needs a Euro guild right now to fill that spot.

Also, it is very rare to see an actual 3 way fight on any given BL since the WvW numbers are not as big as one might think.

Its usually 1 big zerg of JQ against 1 big zerg of SoS with no BG to be found(in some cases) in any given borderland in a certain timezone. There’s just too much of one time zone and not enough of another.

transtemporal.2158:

Nah, BG are pretty strong. If they’re smart, they’ll look to capitalise on the JQ/SoS fight since we’ll go after each other hammer and tongs regardless of the score. 3rd position can be the best position to be if you keep yourself in striking distance.

So if the presumption your implying is correct with SoS and JQ being even in coverage now. BG is now open for bribes to see which side gets extra pressure. <3

lol make no mistake they aint gonna be fighting each other they are gonna do exactly what they have been doing and saying they are doing this week and that is hit BG and hit it hard as they have already said its easier to get ppt from a weaker server than hit the no1 server etc they will roll BG before they hit each other make no mistake.

and please dont mistake this for a 2v1 whine it isnt just stating the obvious.

I don’t know why everyone thinks this was a planned “stack” on JQ. SF was just as surprised to hear that PRX was moving to JQ as I’m sure PRX was surprised at us. SF made our decision to move after a 2 day discussion and vote which ended before we became aware of PRX even scouting JQ.

SBI’s wvw community has been swirling for months now, but it became a breaking point when your entire NA wvw guilds(about 5-7 left) can only field enough players for ONE map. This and many other factors led to our guild feeling the like transfering was becoming a better option.

Why JQ? not BG? SoR? as some have stated. This is a permanent move. We were looking for a wvw community that is strong and lasts through rises and fall in tiers, but primarily plays in T1 because that is where our favorite teams to fight against reside. JQ won our votes by simple facts. JQ had a need for NA teams to join in our time slot. while SoR did not need more NA guilds, they needed Oceanic/SEA/EU. SF has also been playing against JQ guilds longer than either SoS, BG or SoR, so there is a sense of respect and familiarity with their guilds.

I hope that clears some questions up.

SOS or JQ. whichever goes very heavy before Reset.

I feel like I should come back in here and clarify what I meant. I don’t think anyone has misunderstood what I said and I’m glad, but here goes.

I don’t feel like filling empty time slots is bad, I honestly wish this would happen. I want every server to have equal 24/7 coverage. What I am finding hard to digest is the amount of guilds all moving to the same 2 servers, effectively making it a 1v1 while the red server just derps about for a week before getting back to a good fight in T2. Nobody is going to listen to me and that’s fine, this isn’t even a real complaint.

I have a dream. Where all servers and all guilds are equal in numbers and coverage. That will never happen in 24 servers, but if the top 4 tiers (12 servers) were to fill up evenly you’d see a lot more skill/tactic based Glicko movement and fun matches in each tier. The issue with everyone going to T1 is honestly making it the least fun tier to play in, which isn’t right. It should be an accomplishment and feel great to get to tier 1 (That is, without transferring to it).

I want to be a part of a server that has earned a spot in Tier 1 (I am, yay), but I would never transfer off to SoS or JQ (or any other t1 server in the future) just because my server dropped a tier or two. I just feel that if your guild is truly competitive you should be picking a server based on creating fun matches and playing to earn your spot in whichever tier should be the priority, not hopping to a server that is already proven it can hang there.

TL;DR

I have not lost any respect for the guilds hopping into JQ and SoS and I’m sure they think what they are doing is best for their guild’s longevity. I just feel that a competitive top 3-4 tiers would extend the life of WvW more than one mega tier that rules them all. Again, no disrespect or harm intended, only sharing my opinion on the matter.

mrchips.9154:

lol make no mistake they aint gonna be fighting each other they are gonna do exactly what they have been doing and saying they are doing this week and that is hit BG and hit it hard as they have already said its easier to get ppt from a weaker server than hit the no1 server etc they will roll BG before they hit each other make no mistake.

and please dont mistake this for a 2v1 whine it isnt just stating the obvious.

This, JQ waited 6 days to even touch SoS, I expect more of the same playing for second

Please don’t start the 2v1 thing. I’ve been in WvW every night this week and can tell you JQ and SoS have fought each other just as often as they’ve each fought with us at BG. I’ve even stolen a few stomps in the big JQ vs SoS fights.

Miiaah.5416:

mrchips.9154:

lol make no mistake they aint gonna be fighting each other they are gonna do exactly what they have been doing and saying they are doing this week and that is hit BG and hit it hard as they have already said its easier to get ppt from a weaker server than hit the no1 server etc they will roll BG before they hit each other make no mistake.

and please dont mistake this for a 2v1 whine it isnt just stating the obvious.

This, JQ waited 6 days to even touch SoS, I expect more of the same playing for second

OK if JQ never touched SOS, why doesn’t bay keep at SOS BL have a wp? like ever?

oh.. I guess since SOS and JQ are teaming up, SOS doesn’t bother upgrading JQ side keeps and towers.

oh.. I guess since SOS and JQ are teaming up, SOS doesn’t bother upgrading JQ side keeps and towers.

Sigh i am sure i made it clear in my post it WAS NOT a 2v1 whine if you read earlier comments in this thread you will see what i mean JQ and SoS made it quite clear to BG that we were a softer target we also stayed in our own bl which harmed us tbh but im not gonna get drawn into an argument over it read into the post what you will its merely a prediction of the coming week lets see how it pans out just wish i could play tonite kitten net died >.<