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Posted by: Krash.9486

Krash.9486

I have never seen a balanced match up in the history of the game. Someone is always ruining someone else’s kitten and then congratulating themselves about it, even though there is almost no way in hell they could have lost. It can get under your skin after a while.

That’s because no one plays WvW the way it was meant to be played. It might as well be two servers instead of three. The whole reason three servers is the magic number is to keep larger forces in check. IoJ and DR working together could have really hurt us.

If arenanet’s goal was to have balanced matchups in every tier there would be absolutely no need for three servers to be involved in the conflict. In fact, having three servers actually makes it more difficult to balance the tiers. If players want balance they have to create it themselves through teaming up with other servers to take down the largest force on the map(s). Arenanet gave us the perfect method of dealing with zergs and imbalance, all we have to do is use it.

I agree 100% Maladon. I’ve been posting this around the fourms for awhile trying to get people to do it.

I will be totally on board if Mag proves to be the dominant server everyone thinks they will be. I will be trying to get us and CD to team up on them if they are crushing us both.

I posted this in another thread and I’m copying it here in case we need to do it next week:

Teaming up with another server does not mean being in the exact same location necessarily because yes, AoE becomes a problem and it would be much harder to control.

This is how it could work: Green is the dominant server obviously.

On EB: Easy. Blue and Red take their third and don’t attack each other along their common territorial border. Put all the pressure on Green from both sides. Make it a two front war for Green and a one front war for Blue and Red.

On Green BL: This is the key I think. Blue and Red each take their spawn tower and camp. Do not fight each other over the border or the south camp (or trade it back and forth). That means all Blue and Red forces can concentrate on one front. Green will be forced to fight on two fronts. It would also force Green players to come here from other maps to defend.

On Red and Blue BL: This is debatable. Initially it might seem like it would be best to stay out of each other’s BL entirely. But it might be better if Red and Blue would each take their respective spawn towers and camps to act as a buffer against Green.

Exactly! This is why there are three servers. I played warhammer for a long time and the fact that there were only two realms just invited it to be unbalanced. 2v1 was intended and should developed organically and not really require an out of the game agreement. But even it if does I have no real problem with that.

The thing is those alliances are always going to fall apart at some point and should. Two servers can’t win so a parting of ways has to happen. But two out manned servers can help to balance things if they are smart.

As I have said before though. A week long match that scores by capped points only will always give a lop-sided meaningless score. If they could give player contribution a point value AND then buff those points based on population instead of giving meaningless buffs to xp,mf and karma….that might help make it a more competitive feel and give small groups a chance to impact the score.

Just a thought.

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Posted by: Gravy.7589

Gravy.7589

Maguuma will be monumentally worse then anything this thread has seen regarding trolling or chest thumping. They don’t even like TC over in their thread. Boggles my mind.

Its gonna be ugly even more so cause they will have a pretty big coverage/numbers advantage over us. Gonna get hit hard from the Goomba’s during NA prime time and then CD is mostly a SEA/OCEANIC server. See how long it takes for the fair weathers to fade away into care bear land.

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Posted by: Krash.9486

Krash.9486

A movie with commentary. Defending garrison from a heavy assault by SBI outside of the walls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7z4IAu-Mz4

Krash, you have to realize that the movies I post aren’t speaking for all of DR or speaking against all of SBI. These are just some of the fights that we’ve had. We are almost always outnumbered since we avoid the larger DR forces when we can. I’m sure that SBI has won some good fights against superior numbers but we weren’t there because that’s exactly the type of thing we avoid (being on the side that has a numbers advantage) when we can.

Apologies to any soloers or super small groups we rolled over. It means nothing. Victories won with a significant numbers advantage are meaningless to us.

TLDR: I can’t fraps stuff I can’t see because I’m not there when it happens.

And I have seen my ele in your videos when we were an equal or smaller force and have some of my own. Those ARE the fun fights. I am not very good at video editing and posting, I have considered posting some of mine too…and still might…but in a few hours they will be pretty irrelevant…so. But if I did, mine would also reflect my perspective and not necessarily yours.My point is we have all had our good and bad moments.

As far as rolling over solos/small grps….I have been zerged down by your groups when I was solo and did not expect anything else…and I have done the same and even chased down solos that I know have no chance….“if it’s red, it’s dead” And a solo mesmer for example can do a lot of harm!

In the end the memorable fights will always be the more competitive ones…I have had 1v1s when we have both been downed and then rallied on NPCs several times…I will admit I lose more of those then I win….I have never claimed I am pro or anything….but I enjoy those even when I lose….and when I win it’s great…..but I try not to be arrogant about it when I do…not saying I never have….but I try not to dance on or laugh at someone who fell in a good fight. If you do it really makes you look less pro…not the one you defeated.

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Posted by: CrazyCanuck.4265

CrazyCanuck.4265

I hope your superior tactics and skill will prevail in t4 SBI

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Posted by: Kyuzo.4675

Kyuzo.4675

Fightclub. Devona’s Rest Borderland @ windmill.
Starting now.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

Argh, I’d be there but I have like half an hour more of work! I’ll see if I can’t twist some arms…

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Posted by: Baladir.2736

Baladir.2736

To the glorious, skillful, barely present SBI, who are constantly fighting off the hordes of IoJ and DR, outnumbered 10-1! Given how from what I’ve read there really is only five of you fighting against, oh, what is it, a thousand of us online? …I hereby congratulate you on your brilliant tactics, your helpful comments on how IoJ and DR should be teaming up against you, and I trust that, on your journey to Tier 4, you will use your brilliant skills in killing constant hordes many times your size and your astounding diplomatic skills to organize other servers to your cause and will swiftly defeat Maguuma and make your way up to Tier 3.

Lol. As an SBI player, I still have to agree with you.

The reaon we were kicked down to this Tier had everything to do with being outmanned ourselves. You would think we would have learned to recognize it.

Perhaps the competitive match up the last two weeks has significantly increased turnout on SBI to the point we will be competitive in Tier 4. idk. But, while it started out as competitive, it turned into a big zerg at the end here. Almost to the point of being bad sportsmanship imo. As much of a beating SBI took getting kicked from Tier 1 to Tier 5 one would think they would recognize if you get to the point where you are beating the snot out of someone, it’s a good time to stop if you want them to keep playing with you.

No doubt, the beating will be explained as an attempt to get back to Tier 4 where no doubt the beaters believe we belong. We’ll see. Last time we were there we got regulary stomped with much better coverage and never had a chance. I thought the matchups here in Tier 5 were looking pretty good.

My prediction? We will be back lol. Maybe next time we wil be a little bit better behaved and you all together will have better strats to stretch our resources.

Used to be when I was a kid, when we played pick up games we would sometimes swap players between teams so they would be competitive. Even professional sports do a version of that. geez, you would think from looking at the WvW state of this game no one ever considered running up the score is a bad idea. What a bunch of putzs this game has.

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Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059

Gab Superstar.4059

To the glorious, skillful, barely present SBI, who are constantly fighting off the hordes of IoJ and DR, outnumbered 10-1! Given how from what I’ve read there really is only five of you fighting against, oh, what is it, a thousand of us online? …I hereby congratulate you on your brilliant tactics, your helpful comments on how IoJ and DR should be teaming up against you, and I trust that, on your journey to Tier 4, you will use your brilliant skills in killing constant hordes many times your size and your astounding diplomatic skills to organize other servers to your cause and will swiftly defeat Maguuma and make your way up to Tier 3.

Lol. As an SBI player, I still have to agree with you.

The reaon we were kicked down to this Tier had everything to do with being outmanned ourselves. You would think we would have learned to recognize it.

Perhaps the competitive match up the last two weeks has significantly increased turnout on SBI to the point we will be competitive in Tier 4. idk. But, while it started out as competitive, it turned into a big zerg at the end here. Almost to the point of being bad sportsmanship imo. As much of a beating SBI took getting kicked from Tier 1 to Tier 5 one would think they would recognize if you get to the point where you are beating the snot out of someone, it’s a good time to stop if you want them to keep playing with you.

No doubt, the beating will be explained as an attempt to get back to Tier 4 where no doubt the beaters believe we belong. We’ll see. Last time we were there we got regulary stomped with much better coverage and never had a chance. I thought the matchups here in Tier 5 were looking pretty good.

My prediction? We will be back lol. Maybe next time we wil be a little bit better behaved and you all together will have better strats to stretch our resources.

Used to be when I was a kid, when we played pick up games we would sometimes swap players between teams so they would be competitive. Even professional sports do a version of that. geez, you would think from looking at the WvW state of this game no one ever considered running up the score is a bad idea. What a bunch of putzs this game has.

Yep, T5 really is the worst tier ever. A server from T4 will always drop down and stomp the other two servers, and it’s not fun for anyone.

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Posted by: jazzllanna.1278

jazzllanna.1278

If as many people and commanders as we have had stay with us in T4 and do not just disappear I think we may have a fighting chance. Yes we may lose, but in theory it should not be as horrible as it was the last time we were there. We did not have coverage in all maps when we were there last time.. if you were lucky you could find a handful in EB, but mostly we were stuck in our own bl with 3 commanders that stuck it out with us.. that I recall seeing various times… many out there now were not here when we were in T4 last time.. . If all these folks stick around we may do ok. I am a bit scared though they will all leave us to die

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

crewthief.8649

Awesome job SBI. Miss you guys.

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