Guild Wars 2

I think I’m rank 15 ^^;;
Anyone lower?

King Amadaeus.8619:

<——90% sure I have more than 50 ranks spread over 5 toons….guess that don’t count with FAILNET.

I don’t think it’s fail. It think it’s because they want to note people specializing into one character. It gives a new depth to endgame that is harder to get than just playing to 80 in a week and getting all the gear you need in 1 day.

I like that it will give me something to work on after I get my ele all the way leveled.

I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.

Toble.2968:

King Amadaeus.8619:

<——90% sure I have more than 50 ranks spread over 5 toons….guess that don’t count with FAILNET.

I don’t think it’s fail. It think it’s because they want to note people specializing into one character. It gives a new depth to endgame that is harder to get than just playing to 80 in a week and getting all the gear you need in 1 day.

I like that it will give me something to work on after I get my ele all the way leveled.

I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.

Yeah I agree, so much so that I am making a post right now to plead with them to rescind all of our account based WvW title tracks, and go back and make them retroactively “character-based” as well. I mean we do need a grind.

Toble.2968:

I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.

Lol @ the idea that because we don’t play on one char the whole time we aren’t hardcore :P. It is rather alienating unless you play a specific way (one char on the offensive zerg) with how long it takes. I just stopped caring, for me the WvW update was basically moar crap.

Jscull.2514:

Toble.2968:

King Amadaeus.8619:

<——90% sure I have more than 50 ranks spread over 5 toons….guess that don’t count with FAILNET.

I don’t think it’s fail. It think it’s because they want to note people specializing into one character. It gives a new depth to endgame that is harder to get than just playing to 80 in a week and getting all the gear you need in 1 day.

I like that it will give me something to work on after I get my ele all the way leveled.

I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.

Im sorry did Tobly just refer to herself as “Hardcore?”

Hah, thanks for that laugh.

I’m sorry, what rank are you?

Civil is boring.

Can we go back to dramatic text walls plz? Forum drama fuels my work day and I haven’t seen a single Mila Kunis reference yet today, shape up t7.

I was wondering where the drama went

I think it died

atomicjellybean.5389:

I think it died

Right alongside of T8’s chances of moving up to this tier (once again).

atomicjellybean.5389:

I think it died

-drags away a body into shadows-

I would like to thank the fine people of HoD , you guys are so giving and thoughtful.

/cheer

Linkisdead.9647:

Civil is boring.

Can we go back to dramatic text walls plz? Forum drama fuels my work day and I haven’t seen a single Mila Kunis reference yet today, shape up t7.

Mine too, funny how that works…..but some servers who shalt remain nameless (but they are Heavy on Drama and Need Some Praise) got all of our best forum warriors banhammered….So now we just come on and say: Hey nice small roaming group last night at (insert random BL location), we really enjoyed the spirited match you presented us with!

Are you hatin’ on my baddies? Leave my mindless zombie horde alone, they don’t do anything … erm .. to you …

*walks away.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Linkisdead.9647:

Civil is boring.

Can we go back to dramatic text walls plz? Forum drama fuels my work day and I haven’t seen a single Mila Kunis reference yet today, shape up t7.

Mine too, funny how that works…..but some servers who shalt remain nameless (but they are Heavy on Drama and Need Some Praise) got all of our best forum warriors banhammered….So now we just come on and say: Hey nice small roaming group last night at (insert random BL location), we really enjoyed the spirited match you presented us with!

If they got banhammered, they are bad forum warriors. Ill add that to the list of things SF needs to improve at to be competitive in the higher tiers.

So in an effort to discuss the actual match…

What’s happening with HoD?

..seems like the week of the free transfers HoD was everywhere, then SF moved in to the match and since then HoD’s presence appears to be dropping more and more.

is it a conscious effort to not participate as much this week? losing pop to transfers and/or burnouts?

GrandmaFunk.3052:

So in an effort to discuss the actual match…

What’s happening with HoD?

..seems like the week of the free transfers HoD was everywhere, then SF moved in to the match and since then HoD’s presence appears to be dropping more and more.

is it a conscious effort to not participate as much this week? losing pop to transfers and/or burnouts?

They don’t like being in last place.
I assume players who wanted to get a quick win aren’t in WvW for the hard slog.
Which just makes them lose more.

That and someone figured out if you take HoD’s bl. They don’t retake it for hours.

Actually, when I see the mighty [seed] tag. I tend to fight and talk about lunch/girls/Vikings/trollols/randomtopic , in guild chat because I have no fear of dieing.

I’m a chatty person what can I say.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Toble.2968:

I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.

Lol @ the idea that because we don’t play on one char the whole time we aren’t hardcore :P. It is rather alienating unless you play a specific way (one char on the offensive zerg) with how long it takes. I just stopped caring, for me the WvW update was basically moar crap.

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

moutzaheadin.4029:

Actually, when I see the mighty [seed] tag. I tend to fight and talk about lunch/girls/Vikings/trollols/randomtopic , in guild chat because I have no fear of dieing.

I’m a chatty person what can I say.

True story

Toble.2968:

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

Oh sure, you could play defensively, it will just take 4-7 times longer to earn the same amount of WXP -_-.

Hardcore players definitely embrace a challenge. WXP isn’t challenging though. Especially when the easiest way to obtain it is to roflafk in a zerg.

I feel like I am being trolled now that I think about it … y/n?

Npac.3476:

@at the CoSA dude…if you guys have issues with us and others like us you might as well have Ex Shinra join our group again. As a guild, We absolutely adore his criticisms and really value his thoughts as we strive to improve or skills as players. In fact, is there any way we hire him out as a consultant….would love to have his stellar advice on hand all the time…

I feel like there is an interesting story here.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Toble.2968:

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

Oh sure, you could play defensively, it will just take 4-7 times longer to earn the same amount of WXP -_-.

Hardcore players definitely embrace a challenge. WXP isn’t challenging though. Especially when the easiest way to obtain it is to roflafk in a zerg.

I feel like I am being trolled now that I think about it … y/n?

No, you are not being trolled.

Often times when bashing your face offensively into other zergs, those are zergs of noobs freshly dead so you earn 0-5wexp off of them.

Whereas in roaming, you pick up yaks, and camps, and sentries and when you do get your good fights, you take home 60×5 wexp a pop.

It isn’t very slow at all. I know because I do in fact get away and roam with some of my more solo guildmates. I earn almost just as much.

(this is not counting friday reset night)

And its challenging to earn goals above others before others. You have to dedicate time and effort to it as well as genuinely enjoy all aspects of WvW.

In a sense, this game has been made for casual players. you earn Exp from everything by doing anything, there is no standstill, no grind. I have played games that take years to get to endgame even when playing hardcore and this game in definition is created with casual players in mind. Having a exp system that takes more than a week to max out that you have to do it for at least a month on each character is something I can consider a “Challenge” as far as this game goes.

You are right. In a sense, nothing in this game is a challenge. There are no impossible tasks in this game like there are in others, but I consider maxing WvW levels a challenge or goal above others considering it takes longer than anything else in this game does.

Toble.2968:

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

Wait, so you’re actually saying that there is any form of challenge regarding the WvW ranks? I ask that only because you could potentially earn the highest WvW rank without ever having to kill a single player. With most people able to solo a camp, and with PvDoor being all the rage, where is the challenge again? I mean, I know that Veteran Guard is tough in all, but I’m having a hard time putting him and a Dolyak in the challenging category. In all seriousness, I would love to hear where you think a challenge is in this.

Ehh, I’d rather defensive actions be rewarded more, and the devs seem to agree with me.

Skarloc.2569:

Toble.2968:

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

Wait, so you’re actually saying that there is any form of challenge regarding the WvW ranks? I ask that only because you could potentially earn the highest WvW rank without ever having to kill a single player. With most people able to solo a camp, and with PvDoor being all the rage, where is the challenge again? I mean, I know that Veteran Guard is tough in all, but I’m having a hard time putting him and a Dolyak in the challenging category. In all seriousness, I would love to hear where you think a challenge is in this.

Honesty , some of them camp yaks hit harder then most of the people from [lolseed].

moutzaheadin.4029:

Honesty , some of them camp yaks hit harder then most of the people from [lolseed].

You made me laugh out loud at work. <333

Also, Jscull, why is it you are so angry with me all the time?

It seems you could be more angry about me posting things not referring to you, or you could put on your big boy pants, act like an adult and stop being mad all over the forums.

Just because I don’t roam all the time and like to help run something bigger doesn’t mean I am bad at roaming, group play, or single play, as some of your members know.

Your tears all over these forums about larger groups make you look angry and childish, not powerful and trollish as you are going for.

I don’t mean it in an insulting kind of way and in no means do I want to start another PAXA flame war, but don’t you think it is time to hang up the “Zergs are bad” gig and just accept that this is the way WvW was supposed to be organized? Especially when you really have no experience in commanding or being a part of an organized large group of people which many mistake for a zerg (Brainless, unskilled minions).

You and your friends have often commented on the skill of some of our members in smaller fights and many times, it is those members leading the pushes and charges in our larger organized group fights.

Some of your members are even friends with our roamiest types of members.

So how can you say those same members are bads pressing 1 in a zerg when they clearly show a larger skill set in smaller fights. You don’t think they apply themselves in larger fights as well?

Just food for thought.

Do you guys ever post score updates? I wanna see.

Vash.9183:

Do you guys ever post score updates? I wanna see.

Hey mid bro, how’s that beatdown on GOM going ?… Oh wait..

Irony.8056:

Vash.9183:

Do you guys ever post score updates? I wanna see.

Hey mid bro, how’s that beatdown on GOM going ?… Oh wait..

I actually want to see a score update as well tbqh. Soooo postings, plz.

Skarloc.2569:

Toble.2968:

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

Wait, so you’re actually saying that there is any form of challenge regarding the WvW ranks? I ask that only because you could potentially earn the highest WvW rank without ever having to kill a single player. With most people able to solo a camp, and with PvDoor being all the rage, where is the challenge again? I mean, I know that Veteran Guard is tough in all, but I’m having a hard time putting him and a Dolyak in the challenging category. In all seriousness, I would love to hear where you think a challenge is in this.

Skarloc, yet again, not starting a flame war, but you basically just claimed that roaming is all PVE and therefore might need to put your foot in and around your own mouth since that happens to be the profession you are in.

I’d say anything that takes more than a month in this game is a challenge given the casual standards and I also think that when it comes to WvW, most times it is not in fact PVE.

I know you think that everyone goes around taking towers and camps uncontested, but in WvW, the majority of the time there is player Vs. player fighting happening everywhere.

The challenge is working hard and being in WvW often and being able to kill people defending towers or camps in order to take those objectives as well.

this is not really argument so much as fact.

WvW levels are really the only things other than than titles that take a significant amount of time to get.

If it is not a challenge, then you would care releasing your WvW rank to the masses and let them know why you are not dominating that unchallenging wvw catagory?

I bet your answer is “I could care less because I get good fights in WvW and that is all I care about, correct?”

Well that is just fine, to each their own.

Also, who ever said that PVE can not be challenging?

I sure it would be far more challenging to gain the rank by never killing a single player and killing only NPCs than it is killing actual players to get top rank.

As Obs said, those Yaks can hit pretty hard in comparison to actual players sometimes.

I gotta actually get back to playing the game now since I just got home.

Look forward to some great fights tonight guys!

Vash.9183:

Do you guys ever post score updates? I wanna see.

Nailed it. Seems we got a lot of Tier 1 trolling on a Tier 7 thread. Too OP!

*really wants a score update a midst all the tralling.

Hector of Troy.4638:

Nailed it. Seems we got a lot of Tier 1 trolling on a Tier 7 thread. Too OP!

0O0o0o0O0OH
You guys better hide the field commander is here.

@Tib
Tier 7 is the new tier 1.
You got me don’t’cha? (wish your girlfriend was hot like me)

moutzaheadin.4029:

Skarloc.2569:

Toble.2968:

That’s not what I said or meant at all.

A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.

Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.

And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.

Wait, so you’re actually saying that there is any form of challenge regarding the WvW ranks? I ask that only because you could potentially earn the highest WvW rank without ever having to kill a single player. With most people able to solo a camp, and with PvDoor being all the rage, where is the challenge again? I mean, I know that Veteran Guard is tough in all, but I’m having a hard time putting him and a Dolyak in the challenging category. In all seriousness, I would love to hear where you think a challenge is in this.

Honesty , some of them camp yaks hit harder then most of the people from [lolseed].

Lol thx Obs, i needed that laugh

Toble.2968:

Sorry guys, but it does take more effort than pressing 1. It is a lot about leadership, followership, and positioning.

Also, combo fields and support need to be very on their game.

The saddest parts about posts like these is that us larger guilds know what 5v5s are like and know the skill level involved and can comment on the skill type.

On the other hand, those of you who do not run with more than 5 people and have never commanded or organized more than 5 people have no clue how to and have never done what we have done.

It is safe to say you can not comment on being in an organized WvW guild zerg until you have actually participated in one.

Flame on!

I very much know how zerg v zerg is. I had been the designated pvp raid leader of one of the factions in my last mmo. Coming over to this game, I realized that GW2 had weak raid mechanics and that it encouraged smaller group battles.

Sure there are some skills required in zerg fights. Zerg positioning, leader communicating well and class build up make the bulk of that. This however is all included in small group fighting as well as more. Does one ever have to dodge roll an attack that they see coming in a zerg fight? No, because there are so many animations going on that you cannot even hope to see that attack coming in. Do you coordinate cc with your dps in order to focus fire a target down? No, you aoe. If you as an individual mess up, does your entire zerg wipe? No. Doing so in a group fight however puts the entire group at risk.

So is there more to than just pressing 1 in a zerg? Sure there is, but the amount of skill involved is far less than that of group fighting, even in regards to zerg cohesion.

Now if everyone in that zerg was in one big raid, if you had multiple target assists with target callers, if you had limited res ability that did not simply include pressing F and waiting for 1-2 seconds, if you actually required focus fire as well as many other aspects, perhaps there would be more skill required in a zerg, but as it stands, it is quite limited in GW2.

What GW2 does provide however is for individual skill to matter immensely. Any person can defeat any class if they play right.

Does anyone know where they keep the stuff that the trolls around here drink/smoke? I need some of that good stuff.

Seriously though, where is it? Where?? Don’t make me hack at your door with my axes for 45 minutes until they break!!

Toble.2968:

Skarloc, yet again, not starting a flame war, but you basically just claimed that roaming is all PVE and therefore might need to put your foot in and around your own mouth since that happens to be the profession you are in.

That’s quite the opposite of what I said, but you believe that because of your mindset towards this game. I see roaming as a way of finding good fights, you see roaming as taking sentries/camps in an effort to control the map. I hit a camp because I want players to head in the direction, you hit a camp because an arrow cart needs setting up. Again, roaming is about 5% PvE for me, 95% for you. A difference in philosophy.

Toble.2968:

I’d say anything that takes more than a month in this game is a challenge given the casual standards and I also think that when it comes to WvW, most times it is not in fact PVE.

So the challenge is that it simply takes time, not that there is anything remotely challenging about actually acquiring the ranks.

Toble.2968:

I know you think that everyone goes around taking towers and camps uncontested, but in WvW, the majority of the time there is player Vs. player fighting happening everywhere.

The challenge is working hard and being in WvW often and being able to kill people defending towers or camps in order to take those objectives as well.

this is not really argument so much as fact.

WvW levels are really the only things other than than titles that take a significant amount of time to get.

More PvDoor occurs than you would like to believe, but I do agree that there are actual fights that occur. Now, with groups that size, are the fights often won purely based on numbers? Absolutely, that is the nature of the zerg. I get that herding that many sheeple can be a pain, as it’s certainly not something I would like to do, but that has nothing to do with ranks, that’s about zerging.

Toble.2968:

If it is not a challenge, then you would care releasing your WvW rank to the masses and let them know why you are not dominating that unchallenging wvw catagory?

I bet your answer is “I could care less because I get good fights in WvW and that is all I care about, correct?”

I’m rank 12. You’re right though, I could care less because it’s even more meaningless than the score itself. The rewards, if you could call them that, are all based around guards and siege. So if there wasn’t enough reason to zerg as it was, there is now further incentive to do so. Your rank is primarily based on how often you play, followed by how effective you are at zerging. I don’t play on the weekends and I only play a few hours 3-4 days a week. I rarely take objectives and I’m running in groups smaller than 95% of other players, so I’m shocked that I’m even this high.

You’re right on another issue though, all I do care about is getting in good fights.

Toble.2968:

Well that is just fine, to each their own.

Also, who ever said that PVE can not be challenging?

I sure it would be far more challenging to gain the rank by never killing a single player and killing only NPCs than it is killing actual players to get top rank.

As Obs said, those Yaks can hit pretty hard in comparison to actual players sometimes.

The path of least resistance is the fastest way to farm your rank. Luckily, the rewards are so terrible that there’s no reason to care about them. Be online, be in the fattest zerg, and take objectives and you’ll skyrocket in rank. If your zerg happens to roll over players in the process, that’s just a bonus.

Rob.7624:

Hector of Troy.4638:

Nailed it. Seems we got a lot of Tier 1 trolling on a Tier 7 thread. Too OP!

0O0o0o0O0OH
You guys better hide the field commander is here.

@Tib
Tier 7 is the new tier 1.
You got me don’t’cha? (wish your girlfriend was hot like me)

That Vash fellow deserves a medal, amidst all the trolling a brave hero stands before us. Vash the Great from the server Eredon Terrace came into T1 forum wars thread and posted the only sensible question in days.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Irony.8056:

Vash.9183:

Do you guys ever post score updates? I wanna see.

Hey mid bro, how’s that beatdown on GOM going ?… Oh wait..

I actually want to see a score update as well tbqh. Soooo postings, plz.

I post score update every morning it’s someone else’s turn to do so.

PhaNTaSiZe.4215:

GDC havin some fun in the NSP BL tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lYO8MqFn-E

This is my new favorite thing ever. Well done!

Hector of Troy.4638:

Rob.7624:

Hector of Troy.4638:

Nailed it. Seems we got a lot of Tier 1 trolling on a Tier 7 thread. Too OP!

0O0o0o0O0OH
You guys better hide the field commander is here.

@Tib
Tier 7 is the new tier 1.
You got me don’t’cha? (wish your girlfriend was hot like me)

That Vash fellow deserves a medal, amidst all the trolling a brave hero stands before us. Vash the Great from the server Eredon Terrace came into T1 forum wars thread and posted the only sensible question in days.

Just post the score update, pretty please =)

Agg are cool guys and we pick on them in our thread plenty already!

NSP might start moving up in ladder if selfish guilds (like that stupid white wolf) can stop claiming keeps or put all their wvw buff on.

Well I can’t say I don’t enjoy fighting with keep defender who has nothing on them, so easy to kill =]

176 886 SF +285
111 346 HoD +245
137 663 NSP +165

SF 176932 +280
NSP 137674 +170
HoD111382 +245

HoD you guys are weaker than normal =/

Ping.5739:

NSP might start moving up in ladder if selfish guilds (like that stupid white wolf) can stop claiming keeps or put all their wvw buff on.

Well I can’t say I don’t enjoy fighting with keep defender who has nothing on them, so easy to kill =]

Don’t mess with the white wolf, buddy.

You know why? I’ll be honest.

I left, they lost me, we got this.

Their night crew is nonexistent. I want to make this a fair fight again, hence why I’m not in wvw right now. It’s no fun trolling by zergs.

Zergs are boring but effective.

Skarloc.2569:

Toble.2968:

Skarloc, yet again, not starting a flame war, but you basically just claimed that roaming is all PVE and therefore might need to put your foot in and around your own mouth since that happens to be the profession you are in.

That’s quite the opposite of what I said, but you believe that because of your mindset towards this game. I see roaming as a way of finding good fights, you see roaming as taking sentries/camps in an effort to control the map. I hit a camp because I want players to head in the direction, you hit a camp because an arrow cart needs setting up. Again, roaming is about 5% PvE for me, 95% for you. A difference in philosophy.

Toble.2968:

I’d say anything that takes more than a month in this game is a challenge given the casual standards and I also think that when it comes to WvW, most times it is not in fact PVE.

So the challenge is that it simply takes time, not that there is anything remotely challenging about actually acquiring the ranks.

Toble.2968:

I know you think that everyone goes around taking towers and camps uncontested, but in WvW, the majority of the time there is player Vs. player fighting happening everywhere.

The challenge is working hard and being in WvW often and being able to kill people defending towers or camps in order to take those objectives as well.

this is not really argument so much as fact.

WvW levels are really the only things other than than titles that take a significant amount of time to get.

More PvDoor occurs than you would like to believe, but I do agree that there are actual fights that occur. Now, with groups that size, are the fights often won purely based on numbers? Absolutely, that is the nature of the zerg. I get that herding that many sheeple can be a pain, as it’s certainly not something I would like to do, but that has nothing to do with ranks, that’s about zerging.

Toble.2968:

If it is not a challenge, then you would care releasing your WvW rank to the masses and let them know why you are not dominating that unchallenging wvw catagory?

I bet your answer is “I could care less because I get good fights in WvW and that is all I care about, correct?”

I’m rank 12. You’re right though, I could care less because it’s even more meaningless than the score itself. The rewards, if you could call them that, are all based around guards and siege. So if there wasn’t enough reason to zerg as it was, there is now further incentive to do so. Your rank is primarily based on how often you play, followed by how effective you are at zerging. I don’t play on the weekends and I only play a few hours 3-4 days a week. I rarely take objectives and I’m running in groups smaller than 95% of other players, so I’m shocked that I’m even this high.

You’re right on another issue though, all I do care about is getting in good fights.

Toble.2968:

Well that is just fine, to each their own.

Also, who ever said that PVE can not be challenging?

I sure it would be far more challenging to gain the rank by never killing a single player and killing only NPCs than it is killing actual players to get top rank.

As Obs said, those Yaks can hit pretty hard in comparison to actual players sometimes.

The path of least resistance is the fastest way to farm your rank. Luckily, the rewards are so terrible that there’s no reason to care about them. Be online, be in the fattest zerg, and take objectives and you’ll skyrocket in rank. If your zerg happens to roll over players in the process, that’s just a bonus.

Forum troll casted Wall of Wording…you were hit for 2500.