Guild Wars 2

Anet please do something about the guilds and the servers that are full, YOU NEED to do something.

I am in a guild that plays wvw and we can´t do it with all of our people because the locked server, we are many months now in BG and the new people and also the veterans that are in other servers can´t join us. Transfer down is not an option because is easy to move 5-10 people than 30-40, and we like the server.

Maybe you can give us an option to lock the guild to a specific server of election, and let the player choose to join the server of that guild.

I usually don´t write here, but i am disappointed.

ps: Sorry if is correctly written. :p

casantis.3106:

Anet please do something about the guilds and the servers that are full, YOU NEED to do something.

I am in a guild that plays wvw and we can´t do it with all of our people because the locked server, we are many months now in BG and the new people and also the veterans that are in other servers can´t join us. Transfer down is not an option because is easy to move 5-10 people than 30-40, and we like the server.

Maybe you can give us an option to lock the guild to a specific server of election, and let the player choose to join the server of that guild.

I usually don´t write here, but i am disappointed.

ps: Sorry if is correctly written. :p

Sorry but your only option is to transfer down. Blackgate and TC do not need stacked any more than they already are, go help a lower tier server move up or strengthen them. They just opened up transfers to almost every NA server, the only two closed right now are BG and TC.

Is not an option for us, our people is tired of moving because server implosions and stuff. And believe it or not we don´t have the gold or gems to move anymore. Blackgate is not stacked in EU to NA, we play in that slot and we are many times outnumbered.

Move out. BG is a problem. The solution is to leave BG. There are other servers that will benefit from you being there. Transferring 10 to bg at 1800 gems each is actually a lot more than transferring to a high server for 900 or a medium for 400.

Outnumbered in one timezone does not warrant opening a server as over populated as BG, sorry. Many servers below you wish they had an iota of the population that has crammed into BG over the years. Population is determined server wide, not based on timezone. I’m sorry your guild is split, but you joined the most populated server in the game and it was a risk you took in the process. BG does not need to and should not open until people move off.

Last time was JQ complaining, now is BG. You got legit locked because you are oversize, suck it up.

Should have stacked when the stacking was good?

casantis.3106:

Is not an option for us, our people is tired of moving because server implosions and stuff. And believe it or not we don´t have the gold or gems to move anymore. Blackgate is not stacked in EU to NA, we play in that slot and we are many times outnumbered.

Ask around, some servers would pay handsomely for an EU guild to help with your transfers.

Many guilds had their players cut off because of t1 servers getting unlinked and with BG going full. If this was something that was announced in advance ok thats one thing, however it happened suddenly and without any notice which screwed over a lot of guilds and players that were on a linked server who were expecting to be able to play on the same server after the new relinking.

And some of you people seriously, the hypocrisy and bias is through the roof. You criticize stacking and bandwagoning, yet your yelling at a guild and players for not stacking on another server and wanting to keep their guild together. How about players get to play wherever the hell they want? It’s ok for everyone to stack on your server, but kitten them all for going somewhere else…just wow. This is not about stacking, bandwagoning or whatever you want to call it. Its about guilds and players who had no way of knowing that they would be completely cut off from playing on the server THEY chose, with their guilds and friends.

Also CL is not a new guild on BG, they have been here for quite a while now.

Josh XT.6053:

casantis.3106:

Is not an option for us, our people is tired of moving because server implosions and stuff. And believe it or not we don´t have the gold or gems to move anymore. Blackgate is not stacked in EU to NA, we play in that slot and we are many times outnumbered.

Ask around, some servers would pay handsomely for an EU guild to help with your transfers.

All of our player want to stay at one server, and thats BG. We are here before YB was winning by a huge margin.

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

Just this one time!

Anet caves. Stacking ensues.

Week later.

Wait! No fair, my guild is split. Open it one last time.

Anet caves, super stacking ensues.

Two days later.

Wait! No fair!

Rinse. Repeat.

Week later.

Anet do something about the queues! Do something about server balancing! DO SOMETHING!

casantis.3106:

Josh XT.6053:

casantis.3106:

Is not an option for us, our people is tired of moving because server implosions and stuff. And believe it or not we don´t have the gold or gems to move anymore. Blackgate is not stacked in EU to NA, we play in that slot and we are many times outnumbered.

Ask around, some servers would pay handsomely for an EU guild to help with your transfers.

All of our player want to stay at one server, and thats BG. We are here before YB was winning by a huge margin.

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

The system is working as intended, the server is full because it is full. If you have a car that seats 4 people, you can probably get away with fitting 5 in there right? When you try to throw 20 people in a car that only seats 4, you have Blackgate. There is NO ROOM for your friends to join the server. Go somewhere that has more room or deal with it man..

casantis.3106:

Josh XT.6053:

casantis.3106:

Is not an option for us, our people is tired of moving because server implosions and stuff. And believe it or not we don´t have the gold or gems to move anymore. Blackgate is not stacked in EU to NA, we play in that slot and we are many times outnumbered.

Ask around, some servers would pay handsomely for an EU guild to help with your transfers.

All of our player want to stay at one server, and thats BG. We are here before YB was winning by a huge margin.

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

In other words…

If a guild is already on a full server, they can recruit from any server and expect the system to allow them to move to said full server? This is what would happen….

casantis.3106:

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

Invite random guy.
Random guy transfers to BG.
Random guy leaves guild.
+1 to BG population.
Repeat until bandwagon complete.

No gold or gems to move when you’ve been on BG for how long now? ok stop buying wings off the gem store?.

To the guys crying about losing members due to the links, you kitten well knew the link wasn’t permanent, if you cross server recruited that’s a risk you take. Every server except BG has been taken off full at some point already since the links happened. If you plan on moving prepare your gems.

The only servers that have this problem with players locked is all the current/former t1 servers, the 20 other servers don’t care, they’ve been losing guilds to your recruitment efforts for the last 3 years, no sympathy.

Xenesis.6389:

The only servers that have this problem with players locked is all the current/former t1 servers, the 20 other servers don’t care, they’ve been losing guilds to your recruitment efforts for the last 3 years, no sympathy.

Funny thing is, only Blackgate and Tarnished Coast are full right now. The other 22 servers are open for transfers…

X T D.6458:

Many guilds had their players cut off because of t1 servers getting unlinked and with BG going full. If this was something that was announced in advance ok thats one thing, however it happened suddenly and without any notice which screwed over a lot of guilds and players that were on a linked server who were expecting to be able to play on the same server after the new relinking.

Its about guilds and players who had no way of knowing that they would be completely cut off from playing on the server THEY chose, with their guilds and friends.

Let me quote the important parts.

Here the thing, people knows they are gonna be relinked. So, if guilds recruited from other servers or ask people to join to the guest server while knowing that risk, it is their responsibilities. While guilds can protest about it which I did voice the concerns over such guilds previously, guilds have to take responsibilities for their decisions in asking their members to go to that servers or recruiting from another server.

If guilds think that they will always have another server linked to them, that is foolish, I don’t even dare to think of such scenario and told my future members (of other servers or going to guest servers) of the risks involved. Lastly, guilds in a packed server should have thought of the possibilities of the server being full and not linked with anyone.

Xenesis.6389:

casantis.3106:

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

Invite random guy.
Random guy transfers to BG.
Random guy leaves guild.
+1 to BG population.
Repeat until bandwagon complete.

No gold or gems to move when you’ve been on BG for how long now? ok stop buying wings off the gem store?.

To the guys crying about losing members due to the links, you kitten well knew the link wasn’t permanent, if you cross server recruited that’s a risk you take. Every server except BG has been taken off full at some point already since the links happened. If you plan on moving prepare your gems.

The only servers that have this problem with players locked is all the current/former t1 servers, the 20 other servers don’t care, they’ve been losing guilds to your recruitment efforts for the last 3 years, no sympathy.

You seem a little confused. The issue is not that people did not know the links were not permanent. The issue is that since all the hosts server were artificially locked when linking was introduced, the only way to play with that server was to transfer to the linked server. Therefore there were people who were in guilds that were ready to keep moving to linked servers until a host opened up. The problem is that with the second relinking, all tier one servers were unlinked and BG was kept full meaning that all those players on ET that transferred to play with us were locked out with no way to get on the server. Whether or not any of you like or hate BG is completely irrelevant, this is about people wanting to play on the server they choose with their friends and guilds, and instead were locked out with no advance notice whatsoever.

X T D.6458:

Xenesis.6389:

casantis.3106:

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

Invite random guy.
Random guy transfers to BG.
Random guy leaves guild.
+1 to BG population.
Repeat until bandwagon complete.

No gold or gems to move when you’ve been on BG for how long now? ok stop buying wings off the gem store?.

To the guys crying about losing members due to the links, you kitten well knew the link wasn’t permanent, if you cross server recruited that’s a risk you take. Every server except BG has been taken off full at some point already since the links happened. If you plan on moving prepare your gems.

The only servers that have this problem with players locked is all the current/former t1 servers, the 20 other servers don’t care, they’ve been losing guilds to your recruitment efforts for the last 3 years, no sympathy.

You seem a little confused. The issue is not that people did not know the links were not permanent. The issue is that since all the hosts server were artificially locked when linking was introduced, the only way to play with that server was to transfer to the linked server. Therefore there were people who were in guilds that were ready to keep moving to linked servers until a host opened up. The problem is that with the second relinking, all tier one servers were unlinked and BG was kept full meaning that all those players on ET that transferred to play with us were locked out with no way to get on the server. Whether or not any of you like or hate BG is completely irrelevant, this is about people wanting to play on the server they choose with their friends and guilds, and instead were locked out with no advance notice whatsoever.

Hey don’t get me wrong, I loved my time on Blackgate when I was there. But I don’t think they should be allowed to stack any more from my experience of actually being ON the server, not being against them. In fact, I haven’t been AGAINST BG since the last WvW seasons when I was on Maguuma.

The reason I left Blackgate was the massive queues every day about a month after the linking happened with ET. I am sorry that I can’t really feel bad for guilds on BG that want more people over, its already full and its full for a reason.

Josh XT.6053:

X T D.6458:

Xenesis.6389:

casantis.3106:

It does not matter if the guilds can´t join a full server, but at least to a guild already in a server let the players join (to play with my friends). This system has flaws but i think is a good idea.

Invite random guy.
Random guy transfers to BG.
Random guy leaves guild.
+1 to BG population.
Repeat until bandwagon complete.

No gold or gems to move when you’ve been on BG for how long now? ok stop buying wings off the gem store?.

To the guys crying about losing members due to the links, you kitten well knew the link wasn’t permanent, if you cross server recruited that’s a risk you take. Every server except BG has been taken off full at some point already since the links happened. If you plan on moving prepare your gems.

The only servers that have this problem with players locked is all the current/former t1 servers, the 20 other servers don’t care, they’ve been losing guilds to your recruitment efforts for the last 3 years, no sympathy.

You seem a little confused. The issue is not that people did not know the links were not permanent. The issue is that since all the hosts server were artificially locked when linking was introduced, the only way to play with that server was to transfer to the linked server. Therefore there were people who were in guilds that were ready to keep moving to linked servers until a host opened up. The problem is that with the second relinking, all tier one servers were unlinked and BG was kept full meaning that all those players on ET that transferred to play with us were locked out with no way to get on the server. Whether or not any of you like or hate BG is completely irrelevant, this is about people wanting to play on the server they choose with their friends and guilds, and instead were locked out with no advance notice whatsoever.

Hey don’t get me wrong, I loved my time on Blackgate when I was there. But I don’t think they should be allowed to stack any more from my experience of actually being ON the server, not being against them. In fact, I haven’t been AGAINST BG since the last WvW seasons when I was on Maguuma.

The reason I left Blackgate was the massive queues every day about a month after the linking happened with ET. I am sorry that I can’t really feel bad for guilds on BG that want more people over, its already full and its full for a reason.

If a server is full through normal means, that’s fine and all. The biggest issue I have with the relinking is that there was no word given in advance about how the linkings would change (tier 1 unlinked, t4 quad server etc etc) which made it harder for some to adjust, specifically guilds for us, and other host servers like JQ that were artificially locked. It seems like a little to much micromanagement from anet. It should not be a hard concept for people to comprehend that people in the same guild want to play together and not be subjected to silly game restrictions and server politics. People want to have fun together, simple as that.

This has been happening for a very long time, and is a risk people take when moving servers. Whether you all build up cash to transfer together, or one scouts it and the rest move after. Or even if the original guild recruited from another server – linked or not …. it’s a risk. If the guild is based off a full server, you have to know the harsh reality that you are presently facing was a risk that was always there all along.

The end result is you took the risk, or should I say … the individuals on the other servers took the risk. It sucks, but it didn’t work out. This is not an Anet issue. This is an issue with your community on BG. The only way you will ever get those players on is if BG for some reason decides to pay for players to transfer off.

Given the track record, I wouldn’t hold your breath. If you think we are entitled to anything more than we were provided, you have not been paying attention to how Anet has operated for 3+ years.

I’m certain one of you is a rep on the BG council, why not bring the issue up with them and see what solutions your server can provide? Find willing participants to move off in order to get your ET group over.

X T D.6458:

You seem a little confused. The issue is not that people did not know the links were not permanent. The issue is that since all the hosts server were artificially locked when linking was introduced, the only way to play with that server was to transfer to the linked server.

Therefore there were people who were in guilds that were ready to keep moving to linked servers until a host opened up. The problem is that with the second relinking, all tier one servers were unlinked and BG was kept full meaning that all those players on ET that transferred to play with us were locked out with no way to get on the server.

Whether or not any of you like or hate BG is completely irrelevant, this is about people wanting to play on the server they choose with their friends and guilds, and instead were locked out with no advance notice whatsoever.

I’m not confused, everyone knew BG was stacked from the very first week of links. Players moved to ET in order to either play with BG community for the duration of the link, or go to ET to join guilds on BG already, it does not matter, either way was a risk that you would not be with BG with the next linking.

If you want BG to open up for transfers it needs to get down under the current population caps. I know it’s lose players in order to get players?, but lose some guilds and maybe get some guildmates on. Every other t1 server has already shed players. While that isn’t BG’s problem, it’s the reality, and it wouldn’t be fair to open BG up for transfers when their opponents are not even on their current level.

I don’t hate or like BG, I just don’t like people coming in here asking for favors for BG, which has the biggest population still, while obvious to the rest of wvw server population problems. I’m for balanced populations, not for the one to rule them all.

If they want to get on BG that bad, save their gems and wait.

casantis.3106:

Anet please do something about the guilds and the servers that are full, YOU NEED to do something.

I am in a guild that plays wvw and we can´t do it with all of our people because the locked server, we are many months now in BG and the new people and also the veterans that are in other servers can´t join us. Transfer down is not an option because is easy to move 5-10 people than 30-40, and we like the server.

Maybe you can give us an option to lock the guild to a specific server of election, and let the player choose to join the server of that guild.

I usually don´t write here, but i am disappointed.

ps: Sorry if is correctly written. :p

Transfer 10 people to a Very High populated server: 18000gems
Trasnfer 30 people to a Medium populated server: 15000gems

Math says it’s easier (and cheaper) to transfer the large chunk out of BG than expect BG to open and transfer the smaller chunk there.

Jeknar.6184:

Transfer 10 people to a Very High populated server: 18000gems
Trasnfer 30 people to a Medium populated server: 15000gems

Math says it’s easier (and cheaper) to transfer the large chunk out of BG than expect BG to open and transfer the smaller chunk there.

Also to this point, BEEP just transferred 30+ people to Fort Aspenwood in a matter of 15 minutes tonight. It only cost about 300g to transfer per person and a lot of people were able to pay their way with no issues, those who couldn’t were assisted by the guild bank.

I don’t really see how any guild can’t pull this off, its a pretty simple thing to do and gold isn’t hard to come by these days, even for WvW players. I had 700g myself and all I do is WvW lol..

X T D.6458:

Many guilds had their players cut off because of t1 servers getting unlinked and with BG going full.

It was hardly a surprise BG going full if the whole guild didn’t transfer then its their fault.

You bandwagon to T1, you live with the consequences. You can’t have it all.

Why ruin balance just to satisfy people who bandwagon to ET in the first place ? just so they can have access to BG again and destroy tier 1 again . Seems like BG people would rather win by 100k each week again then have close exciting match ups .