Guild Wars 2

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When players said, “I miss the alpine maps”, this didn’t mean EVERYONE was saying, “they should can the desert BLs and go back to just alpines”. Looking at the original update thread alone, obviously a lot of folks think the desert BLs are great – and they are, despite their gimmicks and imperfections, especially for havocs. Just because you’re strongly in the “stack might, stabs up, veil front, proceed to steamroll and all the noobs, pls faceroll” camp, doesn’t mean that’s all there is to dubvee and it’s time to go passive aggressive if you can’t get your rocks off that way. These zergophile complainers stuffed the desert BLs with their negative comments and, frankly, with their trepidation to set foot in them for fear of getting their monster lagfest zergs slowed or choked, and that’s a shame.

Remember in T1 when JQ dominated to an embarrassing degree every other week… that’s because no one did giant zerging guilds like JQ. When the new BLs called for a greater mix of smaller, highly skilled roaming brawlers, YB came to the fore because they have some clever, skilled, highly cooperative 5-10 mans, and this gave the game extra color. If you wanted to tag along behind the zerg in your Soldier’s gear, you always had EB.

It would be a shame to not have the desert BLs in the game still.

bobdobelina.9185:

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When players said, “I miss the alpine maps”, this didn’t mean EVERYONE was saying, “they should can the desert BLs and go back to just alpines”.

It would be a shame to not have the desert BLs in the game still.

That’s the part I don’t get. Why can’t the players have both. I like options. Some days I want to play on DBL, some days on EBG, some days ABL, some days EoTM. Variety is good and keeps the experiences fresh. This my way or the highway bit, well there are other RvR games out there accepting donations.

Very happy to know its coming back!

Great to hear this, thanks for the listening!
One year ago, WvW population were mostly full/very high.
Now, WvW population are mostly high/medium.
Please scrap DBL asap!

You guys don’t seem to understand what this really mean. They are basically giving up on improving WvW for good and are rolling back to a previous version instead of investing in the game mode and fixing issues.

The new borderland had a lot of cool new ideas, it’s in its implementation that it had problems. The old borderland isn’t much better honestly,it was designed for the orb mechanic that was then removed and replaced with nothing, the ruins are also useless. Most people here were already sick of playing them 2 years ago.

If you think this will be good for WvW in the long-term it wont.

I wish everyone who isn’t happy about this was around when Anet asked. Then again, since their communication channels are so inefficient, I can’t really blame you.

Xillllix.3485:

You guys don’t seem to understand what this really mean. They are basically giving up on improving WvW for good and are rolling back to a previous version instead of investing in the game mode and fixing issues.

The new borderland had a lot of cool new ideas, it’s in its implementation that it had problems. The old borderland isn’t much better honestly,it was designed for the orb mechanic that was then removed and replaced with nothing, the ruins are also useless. Most people here were already sick of playing them 2 years ago.

If you think this will be good for WvW in the long-term it wont.

This is what I recall of the ABLs as well, not the ABLs circa 2013 that others seem to be reminiscing over…..

Xillllix.3485:

You guys don’t seem to understand what this really mean. They are basically giving up on improving WvW for good and are rolling back to a previous version instead of investing in the game mode and fixing issues.

The new borderland had a lot of cool new ideas, it’s in its implementation that it had problems. The old borderland isn’t much better honestly,it was designed for the orb mechanic that was then removed and replaced with nothing, the ruins are also useless. Most people here were already sick of playing them 2 years ago.

If you think this will be good for WvW in the long-term it wont.

Long term/short term, I don’t recall anyone saying the Alpine BL was the fix for the game mode. You totally went straw man on that.

In fact, you introduced a fallacy along with that somehow equated going to the Alpine BL means they’ve abandoned improving WvW. Yes, their attention to the game mode is lagging far behind all the others (save dungeons) but going to the better BLs doesn’t mean they’re going to ‘give up’ on making improvements.