Guild Wars 2

razzor.2716:

Jski.6180:

For real power dmg you need cirt dmg and crit chase ontop of power condi only needs condi dmg and maybe condi duration (even though duration not as important when fighting a big group all about getting that 1-2 ticks of dmg as high as you can) but you can stack a lot of def on condi classes where power dmg you cant. The game is lacking the all in power attks with out crits.

Just do a side by side for ptv vs ctv. One is pure bunker not going to do a lot of dmg but the armor is for tanking (ptv) the other (ctv) are builds that can kill ppl in a blink of an eye and being super tankly. If a front line war or gurd could use condis dmg you would see ppl use ctv armor well over ptv. Just images that type of game if say a hammer war had a burn confusion and bleed on there hammer attks and gurd has many burns on there staff / hammers who would ever need to use power would be comply gone from the game.

This is true to a certain extent however full Berserker is rarely used because most of the time, it makes sense to sacrifice some amount of crit chance and crit damage for Vitality as maximizing damage potential isnt the goal in WvW unlike PVE. For example, a full marauder thief will have 17k+ HP with decent crit chance and over 200% crit damage. Its obviously true that CTV does more damage than PTV but we have to see that condi damage has lot of shortcomings like easily being cleansed,converted,resistance,etc and their main damage happens over some duration (and not burst). Outright forcing people to build Condi damage, duration, precision, ferocity will destroy all types of condi builds as unlike PVE, not putting stats to toughness and vitality is simply not an option for most of the classes, epsecially mesmers and necros.

The really broken thing (and probably the only one) related to condi is epidemic atm. One can stack huge amount of condi on say a Lord during a tower fight and when the defenders push in epidemics has the potential to wipe the entire melee train in an instant. Same can be done for enemy downstate which is much more worse during an organised group fight especially when resistance can be stripped.

Most skills that have condi on them tend to be much faster then cleaning skills and now that resistance duration has been nerfed (keep in mind only a few classes could use this skill making them must have in the condi meta to the point of pushing out other support builds and classes) there no ture conter to condi other then condiing the other person down faster then they condi you down.

Condi needs a point for point counter like power has a point for point counter that IS the only way to fix things.

The teller of there being a real problem of this meta is staff ele going from one of the most important classes in the game due to hits dmg mix with support to one of the least important classes in wvw to the point of being pure support with no dmg at all is saying something big about condi dmg being the only real dmg in wvw now.

Anet messed up big time and they do not seem to want to fix it or fix classes to be viable in the new meta. I suggest they changes the art in wvw zoning in to every one holding means on condi not means of power dmg as it looks (more necro less war and no mages).

Let me put this ideal here condi dmg in GW2 works like magic dmg in most if not all other rpg. A dmg type that can get arone physical def like armor. In though games these classes are super easy to kill and there dmg is very set in stone though long cd limited use and simply no crit effects. For some reason in GW2 power dmg is the the main dmg type for “mages” classes and condi dmg is the main dmg for a lot of “war” classes. Anet has messed up there 3 type system. The solders are doing mostly magic dmg the mages are doing mostly physical dmg. All because ppl did not like zerker builds for pve and it all bleeded over to wvw and spvp. Its comply braking the game and it MUST be fixed or you better start reclassifying your class types ele is no mage as things stand.