Guild Wars 2

Arpheus.6918:

I’m for balance and that buff-food is bad for balance since it encourages ppl to not care about surviability but go full berserker because the lifeleech is godly.

Personally I’m running about 1600 toughness and vitality here. No bullkitten trollspec.
Thats what I was trying to say. If you run proper spec this food is decent, not insane.
Why am I defending it, or should I rather say, why am I not following the demand to ban it from WvW? I am simply stating my opinion and experience, because that is valuable, most of all if the general judgement about things is quick and biased.

Terrahero.9358:

Retaliation is the single reason why flamethrower is so aweful in WvW zergs, and lifesteal is the only thing that relieves that problem.

Don’t forget the buggieness (miss, miss, miss… etc) of it.

zen.6091:

I mostly agree with Pannonica, but at the same time, I won’t beat around the bush in saying this thread was inspired by how I see RG playing the game. Everyone, or at least almost everyone, in their guild will be using pie + oil + skale + even the stupid blessing buffs. Do I fault them for playing with maximum efficiency? No. Even if they did not abuse veil or use all the cons, they would still dump truck 95% of disorganized zergs in the field.

Since my guys are on another server since a few days, I can’t tell what they are using at the moment. One thing I can tell you though. We explicitly got denied the usage of, in my opinion fun items, in WvW. For example the golem bombs and the underwater nets. And I can tell you, if there would be anything wrong with using this consumable, we won’t use it.

I personally learned about Pie half a week ago, and I am pretty sure none of us was using it during our last cycle on Piken. At least I didn’t.
And to counter the notion… we’re not fighting GvG because it is easy or trying to make it as easy as possible, we’re fighting because of the challenge. Nothing worse than too easy fights for us, so why one should use stuff that makes it easy, I can’t comprehend.

But thats a different topic all together.

Side note:
Give this food the sigil cooldown and it is going to be as useless as many other nourishments, or as in fact, the sigil. A 66% chance for 325 health every 2 seconds, assuming you use flamethrower? Thats bad nourishment and noone would use it.

I don’t see anything bad if they added an ICD for the pie. For a good reason sigil has the ICD, so I don’t see any reason pie shouldnt have one. And as far as I know, sigil and the pie should stack so ~700 heal per 2 seconds is not that bad.

Omnomnom pie just obsoletes other food, and thats why I don’t like it.

Tried the pie as well yesterday and I’d say there’s not a single food that can compare. With a mix of invader/knights gear I’m over 50% crit with fury while using kits.

Considering the amount of lifesteal procs you can get with grenades/bombs it’s simply too good to not be using it.

I only read half of this thread because I didn’t feel like wasting more time before I posted. Anyway, I love how people were/are talking about how Omnomberry Pies are balanced because everyone can get them. THey aren’t and that is frankly the worst argument ever. THere are thousands of viable builds and Omnomberry Pies make over 2/3s of them obsolete. With the pies you can heal and have better survivability than a tank or support, while retaining max damage. What to the support/tanks or hybrids get? Absolutely nothing. Perfect example: Right now Axe/Axe is better than GS because of the 5 skill. Used on just 3 mobs you can regen all of your health in seconds. If they aren’t nerfed, builds are better than other builds simply because they attack fast, all the pies need is a small internal CD.

And then people come in and talk about Retaliation? REALLY? Omnomberry pies are balanced because everyone can use them, but mass retaliation is OP? Why can’t you use mass retaliation? You say it happens all the time, but apparently not to the groups you’re in? It’s BALANCED if you’re both killing eachother. The enemy is getting hurt just as much as you.

Omnomberry pies however are OP with a fast hitting build. They do NOTHING for people that attack slower. That is what is imblanced about them. It doesn’t matter if everyone can get them, because only one type of build can use them effectively: Glass Cannon.

Personally I’m upset that my favortie warrior weapon (GS) is far far far less useful than Axe/axe simply because of a food buff. Dear god ANet please, it’s not that hard to balance it. Sigil of blood is balanced, simply take the ratio of the numbers and give Omnom’s a proper CD. It’s EASY!