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Posted by: Freki.9475

Freki.9475

Tactics using by Visunah square sometimes are.. amazing :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYGyjyZX78

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Posted by: MoonSpell.4512

MoonSpell.4512

U know whats funny. VS call nightcappers zombies, even if they cap at “their” primetime.
Guys seriously look at the mirror before you go to school or work at morning after this heroic performance. No offense and have a nice day

what’s funny here, is to see how much we were when we all forced to go to the LA before the update of the game… not even 30 players on 4 maps and we were able to deff against at least twice our numbers.

these 30 playesr ( more or less) are almost always there to play at night, this haven’t changed, so plz … have fun :p

STARTED DOWN BELOW BUT NOW
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Posted by: Syndic.4762

Syndic.4762

A number of WvW guilds, including my own, have agreed not to participate in this WvW week. We believe BT can achieve 1st place without us, and we don’t want to be associated with xenophobic trolling of French servers.

After this week is over and PS2 comes out, we will review if the situation has changed for the better in WvW and consider our options regarding BT.

[CIR]
Blacktide

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Posted by: Intigo.1653

Intigo.1653

I can’t wait for Arbor to move up so we can fight both Vizunah Square and Arborstone. Should be some truly excellent fights as Arborstone has some very strong WvW guilds, as far as I know.

For now, Fractals of the Mists call. Reset on Friday should be some awesome action.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/IntigoGW2

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Posted by: Wothan.4673

Wothan.4673

I can’t wait for Arbor to move up so we can fight both Vizunah Square and Arborstone. Should be some truly excellent fights as Arborstone has some very strong WvW guilds, as far as I know.

We can make good fight in prime time( LNM vs RG remake <3 ) , but don’t do not expect somethings in the night or off prime more generally.

Nahtow – [SR] Soul Reapers
Jade Quarry

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Posted by: Danepher.5263

Danepher.5263

I just hope that Anet will do something about player transfers. It is already annoying that many guilds transfer to here (blacktide).

Liquid Intelligence [LI] || Blacktide
aka John Silverarrow and more.

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Posted by: Intigo.1653

Intigo.1653

I can’t wait for Arbor to move up so we can fight both Vizunah Square and Arborstone. Should be some truly excellent fights as Arborstone has some very strong WvW guilds, as far as I know.

We can make good fight in prime time( LNM vs RG remake <3 ) , but don’t do not expect somethings in the night or off prime more generally.

Nah, I have no doubt that Xaoc alone will keep us in the top spot – the points are not my focus at all. I just look forward to the excellent fights we’ll be having. You guys better bring it all, we’ll look forward to it.

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Posted by: Pherenice.8124

Pherenice.8124

There is a big chanse that alot of good EU WvW guilds go to Blacktide, you guys will be a powerhouse for a very very long time.

I also think that WvW will not remain popular for very long from this moment on.
Anet made a new tier set, look at the forums and the rage (me included)
Tomorow half our guilds makes a move to Planetside 2 and hope to find a action packed mmo.

On USA there are many super servers, in EU we got 1 and that is you Backtide, you not only got Xaoc but also Nugos and many more ferocious WvW guilds.

The inbalance between tier 1 in EU is a joke
That does not mean you guys dint fought hard or was given a free ride to #1, i heared epic stories about your battles between other servers.
Ive seen movies of you guys running rampage, and i have fought against you on the battlefield.

But its still lame there is such a big gap now between servers in EU.
My guts tell me that it wont take long before most WvW guilds are going to move to other games, specialy with the route Anet has taken with gear progresion.

USA ladder is a totaly diffrent story tough, i am willing to bet that it is crossing your minds to to move to a USA server to make your name over the pond as you will get bored with no oposition real quick

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Posted by: Excession.2198

Excession.2198

A number of WvW guilds, including my own, have agreed not to participate in this WvW week. We believe BT can achieve 1st place without us, and we don’t want to be associated with xenophobic trolling of French servers.

After this week is over and PS2 comes out, we will review if the situation has changed for the better in WvW and consider our options regarding BT.

Being associated with xenophobic trolling of a single guild is fine though?

And before a forum mod infracts me for this post, as it is off topic, it is as on topic as the post I am replying to……

Political Correctness is Tyranny with manners

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Posted by: Cunnart.6519

Cunnart.6519

“Xenophobia is a dislike or fear of people from other countries or of that which is foreign or strange. Some definitions suggest xenophobia as arising from irrationality or unreason”
It is not xenophobic when there are reasons.

ThUn-Black Tide EU
An american abroad.

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Posted by: Ianervan.3415

Ianervan.3415

Being associated with xenophobic trolling of a single guild is fine though?

And this is coming from a guild that is xenophobic regarding French people. Great. So you and your guildies can post trash about the French in ingame chat and on the forum but suddenly others are xenophobic? I think others are anti-xenophobic, hence the turmoil.

Unemployed people should not receive any social benefits if they are already working in an MMO.

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Posted by: Angelyne.2936

Angelyne.2936

The funny side of that sad story it’s that all started from a “troll” post (that was a joke in 1st place) and the credulity of … you know who.

We are more than happy to fight against Blacktide, “they” don’t deserve that you guys stop to play for them. “they” are more annoying than dangerous and “they” give a lot of tokens … so it’s ok.

Angelyne – Guild Leader for Metatrone – Vizunah Square [Fr] on EU Ladder

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Posted by: Seth Lex.5493

Seth Lex.5493

purposefully ignoring some of the most recent posts.

This is pretty much the moment when you realize that a “WvW alliance” mechanic should be introduced. Something that would allow servers to actually work together (friendly targets) for a short time span.

I really hope the Friday reset will bring a powerful Vizunah-Arborstone alliance onto the playfield – I think all three servers will have a lot to gain from this.

Till then, kudos to VS for their unshakable spirit and unmatched dedication.

[Red Guard]
Sthe Lex – Necromancer

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Posted by: username.4932

username.4932

No need to beat the dead horse to death again, this won’t happen.

What is more likely to happen is slow death of both server, lets be honest T1 matchup is boring. We play because we have fun but scoring system make matchup boring and will lead to many players leaving (this and the new gear progression system).

So we will still fight but ANet is definitely not helping WvW with the latest changes, population is already dropping (we almost never have queue time now on VS).

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Posted by: Zamerine.2635

Zamerine.2635

So we will still fight but ANet is definitely not helping WvW with the latest changes, population is already dropping (we almost never have queue time now on VS).

Yeah the fact that this week Desolation has lost any idea of fighting and that there is a lot of new pve content is not why don’t have queues …

Charr Elementalist D/D
[WL] War LegenD
Vizunah Square [FR]

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Posted by: MoonSpell.4512

MoonSpell.4512

purposefully ignoring some of the most recent posts.

This is pretty much the moment when you realize that a “WvW alliance” mechanic should be introduced. Something that would allow servers to actually work together (friendly targets) for a short time span.

I really hope the Friday reset will bring a powerful Vizunah-Arborstone alliance onto the playfield – I think all three servers will have a lot to gain from this.

Till then, kudos to VS for their unshakable spirit and unmatched dedication.

Just forget it, I really wish that an alliannce between these two servers can work, but must read forums ( jol, gw2fr… ) to see it’s impossible. It didn’t last 24 hrs in the first place to think of remake one.

Give us the rg back! They don’t have the right to stop fighting !!

STARTED DOWN BELOW BUT NOW
GOING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER….
~~ MoonSpell ~~ Guardien [FM][GC][VS]

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Posted by: Wothan.4673

Wothan.4673

I really hope the Friday reset will bring a powerful Vizunah-Arborstone alliance onto the playfield – I think all three servers will have a lot to gain from this.

Last time we try a AS/VS alliance.. well.. broken 2 minute after the reset ..

To many old Daoc resentment, misplaced pride… a new alliance btw the 2 french serv is impossible atm.

Nahtow – [SR] Soul Reapers
Jade Quarry

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Posted by: Empyre.2531

Empyre.2531

purposefully ignoring some of the most recent posts.

This is pretty much the moment when you realize that a “WvW alliance” mechanic should be introduced. Something that would allow servers to actually work together (friendly targets) for a short time span.

I really hope the Friday reset will bring a powerful Vizunah-Arborstone alliance onto the playfield – I think all three servers will have a lot to gain from this.

Till then, kudos to VS for their unshakable spirit and unmatched dedication.

Just forget it, I really wish that an alliannce between these two servers can work, but must read forums ( jol, gw2fr… ) to see it’s impossible. It didn’t last 24 hrs in the first place to think of remake one.

Give us the rg back! They don’t have the right to stop fighting !!

Why wvw when there’s more challenge in pve?

[RG]

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Posted by: KiNgPiN.2075

KiNgPiN.2075

U know whats funny. VS call nightcappers zombies, even if they cap at “their” primetime.
Guys seriously look at the mirror before you go to school or work at morning after this heroic performance. No offense and have a nice day

what’s funny here, is to see how much we were when we all forced to go to the LA before the update of the game… not even 30 players on 4 maps and we were able to deff against at least twice our numbers.

these 30 playesr ( more or less) are almost always there to play at night, this haven’t changed, so plz … have fun :p

Actualy i had Outnumbered on all maps except EB. But if u wanna feel better that you faced gigantic army with just 30 ppl, im not gona try to proove othervise :P

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Posted by: Excession.2198

Excession.2198

Being associated with xenophobic trolling of a single guild is fine though?

And this is coming from a guild that is xenophobic regarding French people. Great. So you and your guildies can post trash about the French in ingame chat and on the forum but suddenly others are xenophobic? I think others are anti-xenophobic, hence the turmoil.

Xenophobic regarding French people?.
What was said actually, in a joke RP post of all things, was that Ruin wanted to stop the French from monopolising Tier 1.
At the time, when that joke RP post was made, hardly anyone, apart from players on the two French servers it was made about, had any objection at all to what was said in it.
Now everyone has their little panties in a bunch over Ruin, and suddenly a post made in jest that was fine previously, makes all of Ruin xenophobic? give me a break.
From the first minute of the first day that Ruin transferred over, EU players made some very xenophobic comments, and posts, and threads, about US guilds, and Ruin in particular, playing in this ladder, but thats all fine isnt it.

I played on Desolation from the start, was in WvW pretty much every minute I was in game, and when Ruin came over, I joined them as they were doing a good job in WvW, and they were trying to work well with existing guilds, like IRON.
Deny it all you want, but Desolation has a lot of unguilded players, and little guilds, that were not, and do not, pull their weight in WvW, but still wanted the glory from winning.
I saw a lot of these people in map or team chat, spout crap like “why bother, Ruin will nightcap everything and we will win anyway”, and you wonder why Ruin left and went to a server that has enough coverage already, so Ruin do not have to carry the server?

Ah well, at least now Im done with Desolation, done with this WvWvW, maybe done with this game.

Political Correctness is Tyranny with manners

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Posted by: Genev.2450

Genev.2450

So if you’re done, why are you still posting?

Curious to see what the next week will be like! Due to RL i’ll sadly enough miss the reset and probably won’t be on until sunday though

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Posted by: Ruggy.7819

Ruggy.7819

Next week can’t come soon enough.. let t1 do the server hopping garbage and stack guilds on whichever is server of the month to ‘win’ .. I just want to be able to play wvw again without it feeling pointless

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Posted by: Intigo.1653

Intigo.1653

Give us the rg back! They don’t have the right to stop fighting !!

We were around a bit last night – we had an excellent fight taking back Garrison from water gate on BT Borderlands around ~11PM CET. A fairly long door melee to get it down, a portal to get us into position and a long, hard-fought battle for the lord room where we managed to win in the end.

Thanks a lot to the VS guys who provided an excellent fight there. The siege and defending was all top-notch, we just came out ahead this time.

As for fighting, I think you will find us very, very active come reset. Many of us are itching to fight Arborstone (Sacrx and Cyril in particular, as far as I know) and will be fighting many, many hours come weekend. I’m sure we’ll see you all there.

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Posted by: Wothan.4673

Wothan.4673

Xenophobic regarding French people?.
What was said actually, in a joke RP post of all things, was that Ruin wanted to stop the French from monopolising Tier 1.
At the time, when that joke RP post was made, hardly anyone, apart from players on the two French servers it was made about, had any objection at all to what was said in it.
Now everyone has their little panties in a bunch over Ruin, and suddenly a post made in jest that was fine previously, makes all of Ruin xenophobic? give me a break.
From the first minute of the first day that Ruin transferred over, EU players made some very xenophobic comments, and posts, and threads, about US guilds, and Ruin in particular, playing in this ladder, but thats all fine isnt it.

Well in fact your RP post, was used to justified the french try of alliance in french forum. But some ppl quoting your post, quote only the “interesting” passage and not the “RP/Meta game” part of your post…

Anyway, most of the ppl cry ( like me !! ) because US ppl inc in EU ladder and not because you say 2/3 thing against the french player

Many of us are itching to fight Arborstone (Sacrx and Cyril in particular, as far as I know) and will be fighting

We waiting all the rematch since 1 year <3 but you forgot Inquisitor/Ithimar Chosen for stick you this time :/

Nahtow – [SR] Soul Reapers
Jade Quarry

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Posted by: GrandMechantLoup.8201

GrandMechantLoup.8201

Victim Playing.

When we say that your guild is xenophobic it’s just some meta gaming and RP. We know that you enjoy that.

Have a nice day, xeno.

jade sea, EU

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Posted by: Gamblit.5041

Gamblit.5041

A number of WvW guilds, including my own, have agreed not to participate in this WvW week. We believe BT can achieve 1st place without us, and we don’t want to be associated with xenophobic trolling of French servers.

After this week is over and PS2 comes out, we will review if the situation has changed for the better in WvW and consider our options regarding BT.

Don’t let BT stop you from having fun in WvW.

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Posted by: Genev.2450

Genev.2450

Considering we ARE on BT (Syn’s mah boss), they’ll hardly stop us.

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Posted by: kesh.5148

kesh.5148

I’m a VS player, and i want go in T2!
BT have a lot of good guild (thanks free migration) with a large time-zone.
But a serveur with tag FR SP or DE don’t interressing a other region to come in (tag EU is the must).
Nobody want fight BT, Iron on Desolation want T2, a lot of player VS want T2, Elona don’t want come on T1 why, because BT are the best with a large time-zone, a lot of good guild, and play very good zerg (i hate zerg, i love real fight 15vs15, fight with GF or Nug when they are on FS server, roaming group, not 100 zombie player vs doors)
No challenge No-match No game pleasure for a week
If BT want challenge, go on a international server with large time-zone^^
BT is the best, it’s my conclusion.
A VS player who speak very bad english

Desolation player here, been on holiday an came on to see whats happened to our points (few random guesses, an we have form in dropping/rising fast) but i can speak for all folk in saying that VZ is the best EU server by far. Consistantly T1. Of course [fr] has a big population, same as [gr](X million), plus [ru/satellites](XX million). Give or take gaming community size.

cba with been online for 12+ hours to play a game tbh, if thats what it takes to compete with servers with better GMT coverage an population sizes (plus the odd well grilled RG-type guilds) then i’m happy playing non-T1. Let them have the rats.

PS
Who is everyone going to flame now Desolation is out of T1!? Boring t1 WvW topics await…

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Posted by: Jaghen.8314

Jaghen.8314

I’m sure people will find something to flame eventually… by the way you must have noticed that since RUIN bailed there has not been much flame against desolation

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Posted by: Zid.4196

Zid.4196

Did GoD transfer to Blacktide too?

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Posted by: kesh.5148

kesh.5148

Deso’s been flamed since beta, would make a change, though sure the flame train isn’t far behind.

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Posted by: Lizerunn.9072

Lizerunn.9072

As for fighting, I think you will find us very, very active come reset. Many of us are itching to fight Arborstone (Sacrx and Cyril in particular, as far as I know) and will be fighting many, many hours come weekend. I’m sure we’ll see you all there.

Same here on Arborstone and especially in LNM.

Whoever may win, it will be a long and tough fight everyone of us will enjoy much.
Hope lag won’t be the unwanted guest.

Hurry to meet ya in the battlefield guys.

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Posted by: Lizerunn.9072

Lizerunn.9072

Xenophobic regarding French people?.
What was said actually, in a joke RP post of all things, was that Ruin wanted to stop the French from monopolising Tier 1.

Once, it’s a joke.
Twice, it’s a bad joke.
More… well, it’s xenophobia hiding behind stupid joke.

However, beside a stupid nation to nation trash talk what people really hates from you is the fact that you were, actually, hypocrite when you claim coming on the EU ladder to look for a better challenge while you well known that you’ll face only doors once the couple of nightly players would have give up with fighting against your zerg.

So far, you proved your skill vs doors and that A-net WvW scoring is pointless. But when challenge really came with Blacktide, the smartest of you left while the others move to BT. And you’re still here ? Instead of arguing uselessly, you should be hiding yourself.

The only thing you’ve ruined is Desolation.
Such a shame.

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Posted by: Himitsu.3285

Himitsu.3285

GoD did not and never left our server, we did skip a few days of WvW however

Did GoD transfer to Blacktide too?

Himitsu
[GoD] Gatekeepers of Desolation
Desolation

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Posted by: kesh.5148

kesh.5148

Has ele water aoe skills been nerfed to +5 max? Particularly asking RG, as that seemed a legit tactic.

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Posted by: Same.4687

Same.4687

Has ele water aoe skills been nerfed to +5 max? Particularly asking RG, as that seemed a legit tactic.

It seems so.

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Posted by: Terrahero.9358

Terrahero.9358

Has ele water aoe skills been nerfed to +5 max? Particularly asking RG, as that seemed a legit tactic.

With the patch a lot of supportive abilities that worked for more then 5 players were changed to cap at 5 players. To match the aoe cap of 5 players and the other support skills that already had a 5 player cap aswell (Timewarp, Shadow refuge,etcetc)

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Posted by: Starscream.7803

Starscream.7803

Being associated with xenophobic trolling of a single guild is fine though?

And this is coming from a guild that is xenophobic regarding French people. Great. So you and your guildies can post trash about the French in ingame chat and on the forum but suddenly others are xenophobic? I think others are anti-xenophobic, hence the turmoil.

Xenophobic regarding French people?.
What was said actually, in a joke RP post of all things, was that Ruin wanted to stop the French from monopolising Tier 1.
At the time, when that joke RP post was made, hardly anyone, apart from players on the two French servers it was made about, had any objection at all to what was said in it.
Now everyone has their little panties in a bunch over Ruin, and suddenly a post made in jest that was fine previously, makes all of Ruin xenophobic? give me a break.
From the first minute of the first day that Ruin transferred over, EU players made some very xenophobic comments, and posts, and threads, about US guilds, and Ruin in particular, playing in this ladder, but thats all fine isnt it.

I played on Desolation from the start, was in WvW pretty much every minute I was in game, and when Ruin came over, I joined them as they were doing a good job in WvW, and they were trying to work well with existing guilds, like IRON.
Deny it all you want, but Desolation has a lot of unguilded players, and little guilds, that were not, and do not, pull their weight in WvW, but still wanted the glory from winning.
I saw a lot of these people in map or team chat, spout crap like “why bother, Ruin will nightcap everything and we will win anyway”, and you wonder why Ruin left and went to a server that has enough coverage already, so Ruin do not have to carry the server?

Ah well, at least now Im done with Desolation, done with this WvWvW, maybe done with this game.

To say that people on Deso did not pull their weight is a insult. Deso players fought every day against 2 servers, fighting for every point they had. They didnt have the luxury of outnumbering the enemy and running around the maps as they wished. They pulled their weight every day.

Since RUIN went to deso, they only had to try and pull their weight twice, the first time was when VS organised a night force and they steam rolled you. The second was when BT entered T1, and rather than fight them they run away.

Coming from a guild that only plays for easy wins, and fails at every challenge, thats just a joke…….

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