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Posted by: Centrix.4065

Centrix.4065

Uhmm how exactly is this a problem?What info is the guy giving away?

Dead guy: Hahaha I am spying on them! Okay guys they are moving about…. still moving about….. now their building arrow carts…. Moving about….

Seriosly, is the dead guy spying your chat or something? He is hardly going to give away valuable intel lmao.

They can relay info about trebs or golems being built. Or which direction your group is heading at.

Once my guild took over Hills and we saw a dead player there for a pretty long time. We decided to build golems right on top of him. We were barely on our way to garrison and the server he was in came at us with full force to kill the golems. It was pretty obvious he told them.

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Posted by: Sunspots.9861

Sunspots.9861

If you see me dead, I’m not spying. I’m either afk going to the bathroom before I res, or waiting for the contested WP to be uncontested so I can come back and kill you. Why do people worry about such trivial matters.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

I still think the idea of the entire zerg lying down beside (or heck, even on top of!) the dead player is the best

L’enfer, c’est les autres

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Posted by: fenim.2395

fenim.2395

Build a Ram on the corpse and take a picture and post it in your WvWvW thread saying " You got rammed by insert server here"

Best thing to do. See how many people you can ram.

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Posted by: Setch.2398

Setch.2398

Hmm, SBI… I’m JQ… I had my Charr ranger dancing naked on some corpse spy in garrison…

Nah probably not. I think they were just there to spy on the golems, not portal.

If they can make ghost noises we need to be able to counter by forceing them to keep their view focused on anybody standing on them. After all if ya’ll wanna stay for the show game might as well give you front row seats.

I did see your golems but weren’t they used to break in in the first place? I didn’t report it because I didn’t see the point. We lost Garrison because of lack of coverage. The 3 or 4 of us defending actually laughed that golems were used when we knew garrison was a lost cause.

P.S. Tac Sym had a ranger using a Juv Snow leopard that could scale walls and was pulling the Keep Lord etc. before the walls were even breached. I didn’t know snow leopards could scale walls. It was a vicious beast too! hehe

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Posted by: Conner.4702

Conner.4702

People discounting the value of the information that can be gotten through this don’t really understand what wins a war. Sure bigger numbers help, but information is always the key for victory. So I do agree that spying in this fashion should not be possible.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

This is an issue compared to having spies on other servers??? At least this, we have knowledge of. We see a corpse, we can avoid it. This way they can’t see much.

Spies on the other hand, that’s an unavoidable problem. Lord only knows who’s really on your worlds side or not. It’s not even worth trying to hide or be secretive. Any Commander thinking they’re being secretive and going to hide a plan is deluding themselves.

A saddening part of this game is, it rewards dishonorable acts like crazy.

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Posted by: NightFox.3957

NightFox.3957

If you killed someone at a certain location then they know your are there… if it was a zerg then they know your are there… if you have seige up at that location then they will be back… so what is the difference of a dead corpse over one dead corpse that say hey they are headed west then a zerg that is already respawned and watching you head west. If there is seige there then you would still be there defending it it so they can not say hey the seige is moving west. Basically I do not get the point of a instant respawn, maybe a limited time yes but not instant. They have to give the player time to get a rez or it would just make the strong stronger and the weak weaker. Just like the orbs which they removed do to similar complanits.

The reason I say strong stronger and weak weaker is because when one server outnumbers another server they must rely on reviving to keeps the numbers as close as possible. I have seen many towers and keeps taken using this tatic. I have seen many 30+ players zergs destroyed by half that number using the same tatic.

This cannot even be considered “OP” or anything like that when anyone can do it.

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Posted by: Volundarhus.7815

Volundarhus.7815

Auto ressing will more than likely never happen due to how it would assist botters.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I actually like it, I don’t use it for spying, but when I kill someone and they stay there without WPing, I tend to think “they must be calling reinforcements” and I sit there patiently waiting and smiling, knowing more fodder is approaching

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Posted by: Volundarhus.7815

Volundarhus.7815

If you see me dead, I’m not spying. I’m either afk going to the bathroom before I res, or waiting for the contested WP to be uncontested so I can come back and kill you. Why do people worry about such trivial matters.

Don’t forget making another drink!

Cheers, and happy holidays.

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Posted by: Causic.3798

Causic.3798

If you notice, the “corpses” have their eyes open….. I think this means corpse spying is intentional….. Also the use of the term “defeated” instead of “dead”…..

Anyway, yeah, have the map open on defeat, problem solved. Till that happens, do your ultra sneaky ninja activities out of sight of spies, it’s possible, corpses can’t follow you around you know…..

Oh yeah ive noticed we die with our eyes open and always wondered why, it completely makes sense now

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Posted by: Cameron.2315

Cameron.2315

Its called learn how to misdirect them if you are worried about them relaying what way you’re going etc

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Posted by: Kerithlan.1659

Kerithlan.1659

Its called learn how to misdirect them if you are worried about them relaying what way you’re going etc

You can’t really misdirect wall health, supply count, etc.

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

I’ve spied. They do so I will. I don’t agree with it but I’m not going to let them have that advantage. Not like it is exploiting a bug or glitching. Just the way the state was developed.

I don’t want to get instaported to a res spot. Not too keen on the map pop up unless the lettering for when someone is resing you gets changed to something easier to spot. Lettering is kind of light against the northern part of the borderlands. Make it more contrasting depending upon the map background.

I wouldn’t mind having all info about the other side not delivered to the dead person so that they cannot see anything the other side is doing or make it kind of like how blindness does, you can see your team but not anyone else.

I would not mind burning the corpse but I don’t care to see the bonfire pop up in a zerg unless there will still be a way for the opposing side to res that player at that spot still. Make it so that it has a really long casting animation or none of the opposing team is within a certain reach so that you cannot take the time to do it in the middle of a zerg engaged in combat.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

this makes me wonder why Necromancers don’t get a ‘corpse explosion’ skill. wouldn’t destroy the body making it respawn, but damage anything that tries to resurrect it

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Posted by: Centrix.4065

Centrix.4065

Build a Ram on the corpse and take a picture and post it in your WvWvW thread saying " You got rammed by insert server here"

Best thing to do. See how many people you can ram.

If I am with at least 2 others in a party and we have supply I will DEFINITELY do this.

A saddening part of this game is, it rewards dishonorable acts like crazy.

That’s why they came up with Badges of Honor. To compensate for that :P

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Posted by: Nidome.1365

Nidome.1365

I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but the camera angle always auto pans down so that it points directly down onto the body. A “friendly” way to cut spying dead would be to take away the ability to pan back up again and look around while dead in WvW. This would still allow the player to chat etc, but restric their view.
Now there have been times where for whatever reason (Phone, Answering Door, Making Drink etc, etc, etc) that I have gone afk while in a tower, and when I have come back I have been dead with enemies zerging about, at the moment I know from this how I died, but if you guys were to have your way then I would not – and that is unacceptable.
Of course, it would also be useful to have a way of preventing yourself from being rezzed – I often take the opportunity of dying to go afk, and sometimes I come back to find that while I have been away I have been rezzed, and I am in the process of dying again…..

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Posted by: Simonoly.4352

Simonoly.4352

When I die, sometimes I like to spin the camera around and observe the rest of the battle taking place around me because I’m interested in how people from my server are doing with the possibility of a res if we succeed. Therefore being forced onto the map screen sounds pretty boring to me. Do we really need to make the game more boring, just to prevent the odd person from corpse spying? I’m going to go with no.

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