Like really, what the hell have they done to the jump challenge area?
And, how are you meant to get back into WvW without leaving EB. You can’t go back through the portal that you used to get in and the portal at the end, near the chest, only takes you to LA. All the waypoints your team owns in EB are contested to you for as long as you are in the jump challenge area so you cant just map out.
So basically, the only way back into EB from the jump challange area (unless I have missed something) is to leave EB altogether and then re-enter. Not the end of the world I know but if theres a massive queue, you have to start queueing all over again. It’s bad enough that the chest has been made account wide but that understandable but this absolutly daft.
Also, Portals…. why?
Am I the only one that hates all the changes to the EB jump challenge area?
Crónus : Human male Eelementalist, Desolation.
17 level 80 characters, all races, all professions.
Am I the only one that hates all the changes to the EB jump challenge area?
Are you the only one that want to be a jerk and take up a valuable spot on EB instead of guild players that actually want to WvW instead of lolling around in the jumping puzzle?
I seriously doubt it, but that’s irrelevant.
This change is very good. The jump puzzle should never have been there in the first place. It was like a McDonalds with a playground outside. Do you go to McDonalds to jump around in the playground? No you go there to eat. Well, hopefully not even that because McDonalds suck. Normal people go to restaurants and eat good food, without playgrounds and rude kids yelling all over the place. Same thing with Eternal Battlegrounds.
Nope, this is a good change. It’s really really irritating when someone mapchats “is there a mesmer in the JP?” while the rest of his server is fighting tooth and nail for objectives.
If you want to go to the EB JP and want to fight for your server as well, put “go to JP” at the end of your itinerary. Problem solved.
If there is a massive queue and you are a WvWer, you wouldnt go to JP for sure.
On the other hand, and assuming the entrances are still the same, it doesn’t make any sense having to go into a massive EB queue to access the jumping puzzle, when one wants to go to the jumping puzzle and not EB.
I can only conclude that the people who have been complaining about the JP are the same people who fail to see how it could be utilized as a valuable tool to help in the WvW effort. Multiple times I saw massive waves of enemies being ported up helping their server to a huge amount of siege equipment. This would go on for hours. Most while my server was pampering any enemy up there instead of taking control for an extensive time.
Well you lot who failed to see it’s use got your wish. The entire JP is a massive joke now and not worth doing. Account bound chest and no more orichalcum.
Well you lot who failed to see it’s use got your wish. The entire JP is a massive joke now and not worth doing. Account bound chest and no more orichalcum.
I never failed to see it’s use. It’s use is cheap blueprints and badges. I did it once a day for just that reason. If I’m not eating up a spot in WvW while doing it, so much the better…
I can only conclude that the people who have been complaining about the JP are the same people who fail to see how it could be utilized as a valuable tool to help in the WvW effort. Multiple times I saw massive waves of enemies being ported up helping their server to a huge amount of siege equipment. This would go on for hours. Most while my server was pampering any enemy up there instead of taking control for an extensive time.
Well you lot who failed to see it’s use got your wish. The entire JP is a massive joke now and not worth doing. Account bound chest and no more orichalcum.
Thank you very much.
Pver orichalchum mention just ruined ur argument
commander frostseir(sylvari,guardian) commander frostetics(norn,ele)
Os guild
Well you lot who failed to see it’s use got your wish. The entire JP is a massive joke now and not worth doing. Account bound chest and no more orichalcum.
Exactally!
I have contributed hundreds and hundreds of siege engines to my server’s efforts in WvW and have never spent a single copper on them. I also have full exotic gear bought mostly with badges from the jump chest so that I can be of the greatest impact when fighting in WvW.
If you also take into account all the portals I have provided for other players while helping them get to the chest too, then I have actually contributed to thousands of siege engines for my server, not to mention the armour ppl bought with the BoH they got from the chests I helped them get.
The vast majority of the ppl I ported up to the chest only came because I used map chat to let them know I was in the jump porting ppl. They came because I was able to port them up, saving them 90% of the time the jump would normally take and in doing so, allowing them to get back into the WvW fight as quick as possible. And, with two new siege engins and several BoH to boot.
What a selfish and ignornt guy I am. Sorry bout that guys, we can’t all be perfect team players.
Crónus : Human male Eelementalist, Desolation.
17 level 80 characters, all races, all professions.
This change is very good. The jump puzzle should never have been there in the first place. It was like a McDonalds with a playground outside. Do you go to McDonalds to jump around in the playground? No you go there to eat. Well, hopefully not even that because McDonalds suck. Normal people go to restaurants and eat good food, without playgrounds and rude kids yelling all over the place. Same thing with Eternal Battlegrounds.
This started as a fairly good analogy but then appears to have sparked some inner hatred of Mcdonalds mid paragraph, made me lol. :P
Anyway OP its a good change that I think didn’t go far enough, the JP should have been disconnected from EB so that those with servers with queues don’t get clogged up with pve’ers queuing just to run to the first keep and leave.
I can only conclude that the people who have been complaining about the JP are the same people who fail to see how it could be utilized as a valuable tool to help in the WvW effort. Multiple times I saw massive waves of enemies being ported up helping their server to a huge amount of siege equipment. This would go on for hours. Most while my server was pampering any enemy up there instead of taking control for an extensive time.
Well you lot who failed to see it’s use got your wish. The entire JP is a massive joke now and not worth doing. Account bound chest and no more orichalcum.
I never failed to see it’s use. It’s use is cheap blueprints and badges. I did it once a day for just that reason. If I’m not eating up a spot in WvW while doing it, so much the better…
Agree with this 100%.
Now, how about a direct entrance to the JP map instead of having to queue to EB?
I never failed to see it’s use. It’s use is cheap blueprints and badges. I did it once a day for just that reason. If I’m not eating up a spot in WvW while doing it, so much the better…
Agree with this 100%.
Now, how about a direct entrance to the JP map instead of having to queue to EB?
LOL @ the whiners and true ‘pvpers’ who hate on the JP cause they are such godly pvpers and are worth more then anyone who goes into the JP.
I spend most my time scouting enemy zergs and running yaks for my server, I would consider myself a big help to the cause(imo ofc) yet I enjoy the JP aswell I tend to go for an hour or two before bed every night.
I would always portal people up on my Mesmer(so add in supplying siege prints for alot of my server on top of my other work) and me and some guildies would also camp certain spots and get other servers riled up. Nearly every night it was 3/4 of us V about 15~ of the other server we bottle-necked them and kept them at bay.
Now you work out we take up 4 EB slots when there is already NO queue and then add in our rival servers who always have Qs late at night and they have 15 in the JP fighting us. Who do you think is doing good work for their servers effort?
FYI being a zergling and hating on the JP cause you are clueless does not = good pvper for their server.
I remember getting a lot of siege out of jump puzzle with 6 of my toons to hand to commanders, earn some portal tips from generous members for the ports to buy more siege, and even hitting that ori node to hock on the BLTC to get some silver for guess what? More siege. Though it was annoying seeing people using the JP for the ever time wasting legendary quest and hearing them complain for hours on how no mesmer in jp is wasting their time and how farming BoHs the normal way are a waste of time.
I am neutral with the changes for the EB puzzle. It helps out by making sure more people are out doing the good fight rather than holding much needed que spots. But on the other hand causes the mass of us commanders to farm gold for siege at times.
But the other option for farming badges by chest was usually pvzerging the giant grub or wood spirit mini bosses on map for siege and badge chests (unless that was changed to account only as well). But I agree that WvW should be for everyone so if people want to pve some grub boss, let them do it, they are farming your siege for your cause. 8U
Of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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Tizzle Mindwrack – Crazy Asura Lore Keeper of [AARM]
What cheap-skate servers are you playing on where JP-seige makes any difference whatsoever? You’re really arguing that the 2 BPs (times however many alts you have) you get are worth taking up a player slot? Or that you wouldn’t get just as much silver from actively playing WvW to buy the same seige? I have never ever seen a server run out of seige because the enemy is doing such a good job of camping the JP. You know why? Because you can freakin buy BPs at the seigemaster for the same amount of silver/badges you make in 10 minutes of just playing WvW. Servers never ever have a problem of not having enough blueprints; if you’re a commander and ask for 2 rams at a gate you’ll inevitably get 4 thrown down. The availability of blueprints far far out-strips the availability of supply, you simply can’t run out.
I think it was already previously mentioned that all you need to do after getting the chest is press b and then enter the borderland of your choice. No need to use a portal or anything. o.o;;
What cheap-skate servers are you playing on where JP-seige makes any difference whatsoever? You’re really arguing that the 2 BPs (times however many alts you have) you get are worth taking up a player slot? Or that you wouldn’t get just as much silver from actively playing WvW to buy the same seige? I have never ever seen a server run out of seige because the enemy is doing such a good job of camping the JP. You know why? Because you can freakin buy BPs at the seigemaster for the same amount of silver/badges you make in 10 minutes of just playing WvW. Servers never ever have a problem of not having enough blueprints; if you’re a commander and ask for 2 rams at a gate you’ll inevitably get 4 thrown down. The availability of blueprints far far out-strips the availability of supply, you simply can’t run out.
Ridiculous argument is ridiculous.
still getting 5*2*x(thats what it used to be before the account bound now its 2*x) where x is the amount of players you have for 3-5mins work is not helping the server?(given that there is a mesmer at the end)
if a mesmer whant people to know hes at the end he/she can send a friend to eb and say it plus you can hit the wvw icon at the top right of your screen(its B by defuelt but can be change) to get back to eb.
the only change i ever hope is going to happen is that they take out the badges from all the jp chests and put in 1-2 more siege and 0-1 traps.
Commander Korsbaek lvl 80 Guardian
Ayano Yagami lvl 80 ele
What cheap-skate servers are you playing on where JP-seige makes any difference whatsoever? You’re really arguing that the 2 BPs (times however many alts you have) you get are worth taking up a player slot? Or that you wouldn’t get just as much silver from actively playing WvW to buy the same seige? I have never ever seen a server run out of seige because the enemy is doing such a good job of camping the JP. You know why? Because you can freakin buy BPs at the seigemaster for the same amount of silver/badges you make in 10 minutes of just playing WvW. Servers never ever have a problem of not having enough blueprints; if you’re a commander and ask for 2 rams at a gate you’ll inevitably get 4 thrown down. The availability of blueprints far far out-strips the availability of supply, you simply can’t run out.
Ridiculous argument is ridiculous.
Who ever said that our servers depended on our BPs? We said that, because of the jp, we have been able to contribute loads of more siege engines to our servers cause. Im my case, I have contributed to hundreds and hundreds of siege engines to my server’s efforts. Also, indirectly, through porting ppl up to the chest, I have contributed to thousands of more siege engines and BPs for the cause, Now how on earth can that be a bad thing.
And surely, haveing one or two mesmers offering ports in the jp is worth the spots in the queue? They allow players to get the chest and be back in the battle in less than 3 mins with 2 new BPs and several BoH.
Crónus : Human male Eelementalist, Desolation.
17 level 80 characters, all races, all professions.
Problem solved.