Guild Wars 2

If you’re hoping to provoke the Germans you’ll have more success posting on the German forums.

Anyway, this kind of trash-talk is what W3 is all about.

I’m just not sure it belongs here.

Dee Jay, if you read the 2nd part of my post you should notice that it’s directed at ANet not at provoking anyone.

I’m from Elona Reach and I can tell you one thing: We most definitively don’t work together with Kodash, we beat the hell out of each other eacht day ^^

Additionally, our biggest, organized raid doesn’t act on Elona Reach, you are just messing around with some randoms.

Arena Net did nothing wrong, nor are we teaming up against you. Sorry to pop your bubble.

nachtnebel, and I understand that it’s easier to keep wiping at our fortified keep then to take something that belongs to other DE server? Please keep the BS to yourself. You work together since this match up started.

You can believe what you want, it doesn’t change anything. Your keep is under attack cause their is an orb inside and, as usual, each server wants to have it. It’s the same scenario in the other borderlands, we also fight a two-front war at our keeps when there is an orb inside. That’s just how the game works, nothing else.

I’m a member of the biggest guild on Elona Reach, we almost have a 24/7 semi-organized raid and we equally target both servers on Kodash Borderlands.

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If you speak German, go to the community boards for Elona Reach and Kodash an check yourself. The mood might not be aggressive, but it also is not friendly.

Oh please, whoever the OP are – dont go there.

There is no real alliances between servers even though it might seem like that sometimes. Its all opportunism. Just yesterday us (FU and EC) sieged Dreaming Bay in the Kodash borderlands that belonged to Elona, while Kodash attacked it from different direction.

We used both attacks to break the Elona defences and see who gets the keep first, obviously not trying to attack Kodash raids (also having few skirmishes with them) as waited for opportunity for them to break gates, and than rush after them (in the end WE broke the wall and THEY rushed after us and died after we took the keep).

It was so funy, i went to german WvW section of official forums and make a post thanking our “allies” from Kodash for cooperation in yesterdays siege. The funy part – Elona reach actually believed we were actually allied! (all that while SR believes that Kodash and Elona are allied against us…)

Its just how RvRvR mechanic works. Both servers are also not nubs – they are good pvpers and are enjoyable to fight (sure lot more than previous match). Yes, we lead at prime time, and loose at night/day (medium vs two FULL servers) but its not their fault – its just how the game mechanic works.

Respect to Kodash and Elona,

at times we felt you were uniting against us, at times Kodash complained about us uniting with Elona against them, than Elona complained about us and Kodash fighting them, now its back to square one: wvw is fun

There is some truth that national servers tend to outsider targets rather than own nations other server – but it will be false to say they are working togehter: they fight each other as well. So facing two german or two french servers – one can expect a bit more attention, but in the end they all still fight to win: and would fight their main competition, as we do.

Simple example, 23rd and 24th of September, 2nd and 3rd day of a new match up. Seafarer’s Rest Borderland, everything upgraded to the max. We were continously trying to take Bay or Etheron. Every time we tried to attack one of them, first we had to clear one server, then expect to be attacked by the other server from behind. Not to mention that they were standing next to each other on numerous occasions just waiting for us to do something. And yes, now tell me that was because there must have been an Orb in both keeps at the same time and that it’s how the game mechanic works. If you have an enemy standing next to you and you’re doing nothing then yes, you must be blind to miss what’s going on here.

Same nationality servers shouldn’t be mached with each other. And the score system takes all the pleasure away from fighting. There’s nothing fun about winning in the evening, waking up in the morning to be 20k points lower. It’s pointless to fight.

This thread should be locked or deleted. Telling people you suck is not constructive…

grifflyman, if I wrote “you suck” and only that, then yes, it’s not constructive. Did you read the rest?

Zireael – we (FU) had an enemy next to us yesterday (Kodash) attacking north Dreaming bay, while we attacked east. Why would we go north and kill Kodash? What does it to us? We basically help Elona at this case.

On other hand – if we see enemy attack a keep we want, we either do it from other side, or just wait for enemy to do the job for us – break the walls and diminish enemy forces, and us take all the benefits by rushing in and killing the attackers and taking keep ourselves when the gates/walls are down.

Thats how it works. Its called opportunism. When we were on 2nd place, both servers naturally attacked us. Elona got to 2nd place – both servers attacked them (as yesterday). Servers content with their position? They attack whatever they can take (if elona cared about 1st place, they`d go exclusively for Kodash as we did whole week, however they think its unrealistic and just try to go for us. While Kodash grabs whatever poitns available to secure an advantage).

We held against them successfully at weekend – Kodash scored only at night, despite both servers fighting against us? So what? Just be proud of it. There is no conspiracy.

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And no btw, they dont win because they unite against us. Thats not a problem at all. get used to fighting 2vs1, happens all the time. They win because they have higher population and score at morning/day while we lead only in prime time. And they face same issue against each other and other servers so not their fault also. Thats just how it works.

We kickkitten in prime time, when numbers are equal, no matter the odds. So what is more to demand there? The fights are fun and thats all that matters. You cant stop two servers ganking on one in WvWvW and you cant stop scoring at night/work days – so why get angry?

Preacher, come on mate. Opportunism is one thing, helping other server outright is another. We did use one server attacking the gate, wiped them on their way to inner and continued from there on ourselves. But we did not defend other server keep from their enemy for no particular reason and asked them to do the same when our keep was under attack.

And now you want to tell me that servers are content with their position? Well, maybe DE are content having 40k points advantage so they finally started to fight each other a bit out of pure boredom. And it’s seriously not about conspiracy, or being proud or not. It’s about flawed game design that instead being attractive is causing people to lose interest. It’s fun to wipe both DE servers attacking one keep for few hours straight, no matter if they do work together at that particular moment or not. But it’s not fun when scores don’t reflect the actual situation on the battlefield. If Anet needs to have some kind of score count, make it a death count. If you have thrown yourself against a fortified keep and for some amount of time achieved nothing, then all your server deaths go to the server keeping the keep. But if you took it, you get the score. Or something like that. Current scoring system does not reflect actual situation and favors nightcapping instead real fighting, and also favors two servers banding together just as Anet designed it. But what stops them from banding against weaker enemy to get higher in the score count? Nothing. Change the score system and you’ll have people fighting for the sake of having a fight, not for the sake of a score or rewards.