Guild Wars 2

I’ve been playing GW2 since launch, however i took a break and haven’t touched the game for a good 4 months. I used to play a lot with my mesmer in wvw, are they still viable as a glass canon zerker? What other profession got balanced for wvw?
I have 5 80s, War, Guard, Engi, Thief and Mesmer.

Thanks

Mesmers aren’t very viable as glass cannon zergers due to the popularity of perma stealth thieves. A stealthy bs thief has always been a strong counter against that build.
Thief is the best roamer, but warrior specced for glass cannon rifle is probably the most fun if you are into trolling.
Guards still continue to be the backbone of any serious WvW guild group.

Anything (except thief) specced glass canon is asking for a quick trip to the Waypoint.

Master of Timespace.2548:

Mesmers aren’t very viable as glass cannon zergers due to the popularity of perma stealth thieves.

This is not true. Life may be easier for you if you play a D/P or a perma stealth build but mesmers are still very strong and possible to play, especially against thieves.

Solo roam → most certainly still viable

Guild/zerg play → no, and never has been

Ridafyt Whitestrike.8397:

Guild/zerg play -> no, and never has been

Not true again. Mesmers are great utilities, even as zerkers. Boon strip, daze bombing, null field, and veil, just to name the simple stuff. Plus shatter mesmer is still op, drop a few clones into a group using the illusionary zerk, greatsword 2, and a skill clone and you get massive damage. Each clone also counts as an aoe that is able to hit up to five people. Thats 15 people you’re either melting, stipping boons from, dazing, or doing a combination of all three.

That being said there are better classes for group/zerg play, but mesmer has never been, nor is useless.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Mesmers aren’t very viable as glass cannon zergers due to the popularity of perma stealth thieves.

This is not true. Life may be easier for you if you play a D/P or a perma stealth build but mesmers are still very strong and possible to play, especially against thieves.

Shadow refuge => wait 10 seconds => burst => defeated glass mesmer. Mesmer might win, but the odds really are against him in this type scenario.

I’ll take on any thief on under water on my mesmer. Most of them just flee for shore.

Rule of WvW: it’s foolish to fight a mesmer under water.

And for land .. oh it’s hilarious to watch the thief get all freaked out when he’s suddenly turned into a moa. I think I use that just for the sheer comic effect of watching the panic kick in. And the duration of the moa spell for most of these glass cannon thieves is enough to kill them.

If you play your memser, look into Prismatic Understanding and clone dodge roll.

Master of Timespace.2548:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Mesmers aren’t very viable as glass cannon zergers due to the popularity of perma stealth thieves.

This is not true. Life may be easier for you if you play a D/P or a perma stealth build but mesmers are still very strong and possible to play, especially against thieves.

Shadow refuge => wait 10 seconds => burst => defeated glass mesmer. Mesmer might win, but the odds really are against him in this type scenario.

Knock the thief out of SR with greatsword 5 or pull with focus 4. If that fails pop invul, sword 2, mass invis, veil, chaos armor, decoy, or blink at the first sign of damage while you are kiting around. With so many ways to avoid I have to disagree that the odds are in the thief’s favor. A good mesmer knows how to handle a glass thief.

I’m sorry but zerker mesmer is really not viable in zerg/guild play, not because the dmg is kitten, it’s good but 100% zerker will make you WAY to vulnerable against good opponents, you really need 18k+ hp and decent toughness to be able to provide any support in the first place mate.

A good D/P permastealth thief vs a good Mesmer = a good fight that ain’t gonna be proved one way or the other arguing about it on the forums. It’s just gonna come down to player skill, lag, and other such factors.

That said, the question had nothing to do with that, it’s whether mesmers are a viable “glass cannon zerker”. Answer is, it depends on what you mean by that.

If you mean, are they a good glass cannon solo roamer? Then the answer is, yes, by all means, they are very good at that. Search for Osicat on these forums or Youtube for some great vids on that.

But if you mean, are they a good glass cannon zerger? Then the answer is, they can be, sort of, again depending on player skill, but it’s not easy or recommended for someone just getting back into the game.

I know at least one person on TC who zergs with glass-ish gear successfully, but he’s been a mesmer since launch and has played WvW primarily almost nonstop since then, proving it’s at least possible. I’m sure there are others.

But for someone asking this question, you should go full Soldiers P/V/T bunker gear, relearn the class, figure out builds, etc., before stepping up to Knight/Zerker or full Zerker glass cannon gear. The name of the game when zerging is to stay alive in face of the damage output of ~20 players (or 50+ in T1), everything else is secondary.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Mesmers aren’t very viable as glass cannon zergers due to the popularity of perma stealth thieves.

This is not true. Life may be easier for you if you play a D/P or a perma stealth build but mesmers are still very strong and possible to play, especially against thieves.

agreed, when a thief gets 2 iduelists in the face each bullet critting for 2k+ and you usually can get atleast 10 hits on them before they stealth or dodge out – they’ll wish they never came out of stealth to attack lol!

kurtosis.9526:

A good D/P permastealth thief vs a good Mesmer = a good fight that ain’t gonna be proved one way or the other arguing about it on the forums. It’s just gonna come down to player skill, lag, and other such factors.

The question is zerker mesmer viable, people are saying it is not due to zerker/perma stealth thieves. It is a completely legitimate conversation and there is no harm in arguing it since the op is wondering if he should play zerker mesmer.