Guild Wars 2

See that’s the problem you ignore the bases and what you call “flipping houses” which disregards those points that build the score.. so while we are doing that and your ignoring those “flips” build up to something that looks like this. those 600 points every 15 minutes will cause you to “look at your score” and see you just lost the lead. So what will be the new form of comment now after you cannot say " look at the score" anymore?

Personally I don’t care about the guy that started this thread. He’s obviously a troll. What I can say is, I bet you’re glad that server transfers are still free.

If you actual care about reading my full response, go back a page. I’m too lazy to retype it. BG is a great server, but it’s sad to see free transfers ruin what was a really competitive and fun match. You guys were barely behind. Hopefully DB can retake the score in prime time, but it’s going to be rough with the new Euro guilds manning the off-hours for BG. I wish they would just merge NA and EU servers already to get full coverage for each server. I don’t like winning by a huge margin, nor losing by a huge margin. Especially when one server (be it the enemy or us) doesn’t have a chance to defend.

Sadly, I think the right thing for me is to abuse the server transfers myself. I’ll be heading to whatever matchup looks most competitive (fairly similar ticking score/orbs) each day. I could care less if that is to tier one or tier (whatever tier Devona’s is in). I just like a fun match. I played RvR (on Mid, where Mid and Hib got dominated) in DAoC, so winning doesn’t matter so much to me. What matters is there still being some good PvP out there where neither side has the ridiculous orb bonus, or has lost the will to fight.

Sadly, “waiting for next rotation” seems to be a common disorder among those who are losing. And tbh I can’t blame them. I wish they would just lock tiers so that the underdogs can actually learn to team up on the winning server, and so that people don’t feel they can just wait it out.

So you are looking at the actual score, then explain the fact that we are within 2k of you now and were down by 20k when you started talking skrit.

Oh excuse me just looked again we are down by 102.

I’m not a member of one of the big BG guilds but I have never felt in anyway devalued by anyone on the server. There are plenty of opportunities for small guilds and floaters to step up, make their voices heard, and even lead from time to time. However, as in every server I’ve spent any amount of time in, there is an expectation that you listen. WvW is about coordination. I’ll admit that I’ve noticed people be a little rude to Kaide at times but if you’re constantly arguing with everybody you have to expect a little blow back.

I hope you enjoy your stay at DB Kaide, I really do.

Also, scoreboard [img]http://i.imgur.com/87LP5.jpg[/img]

ah so here is the final update of us now in the lead and less than 6 minutes ago we started getting ques. It is funny because I hear prime time for us is supposed to be in 3 more hours from what i see from previous posts yet we did this and held it for the past 6 hours. So we will see I guess if you can fix the mess we caused before i come back, but I’m pretty sure its gunna be a pain for you with our ques full, and tomorrow you’ll just see me again and we will repeat the process. Have fun man sorry you feel that way about BG you are the only one who feels the way you do everyone else seems cheerful and has a great time with us although you’ll always get the occassional troll now and then. Well anyways have fun man.

Yep good job BG day crew, I logged off and went to sleep last night cause that one guy came in and messed up our pretty blue southwest EBG corner and it upset me. I log on to it all fixed and even better, big ups to the day crew.

Apparently i guess were going to stay on all evening from what the vent chat is saying because we want everything on the map >:D So primetime or not this will be a big problem for you DB

DB here, not going to blame u or anything, gg on free transfering 3 EU guilds and half an alliance today so u can win.

ANet thanks for offering a competitive “sport” if u can call it that, one of the most abusable things possible imagined.

Next time when your favorite american football team plays..i pray a third team replaces the tired one in the last 10 minutes of the game and u lose it….because that’s how competitive sports are.

As for BG..again nothing against u…u practically used the tools offered by anet…even if those tools are the worst imaginable they are still tools fully and fanatically supported by ANet.

Esoteric.5490:

Blackgate just took a +475 to your +55 over there at Dragonbrand.

Did you not notice we don’t have a morning crew? So enjoy passing us for a few while you can.

=)

Halseybr.9403:

? how you say we transfered 3 eu guilds here to win? The entire fight tonight & day was with Urge RQ and BBG allaince same people as everyday always on mumble doing our thing. We lost alot of people with kaide so do your research before posting such crazy nonsense o.O

I suggest u check gw2guru forums from time to time

Here i help u: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/68014-dragonbrand-vs-blackgate-vs-fort-aspenwood/

I won’t give u the exact page because that would be encouraging ppl to be lazy. I am sure u will be able to transfer someone to read it for u

It’s a good thing Kaide switched when he did, his leadership on DB has allowed Blackgate to take the lead. I congratulate you sir, it’s not often someone snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

He didn’t switch because u were loosing like u should have today, but used the new ANet iWin device. He switched because of the overall atmosphere of the server in wvw…how u ppl bond together and so on. These are 2 different things.

Oh look, every single day at about 9am DB starts creaming us, until today, we fill that timeslot and suddenly we are abusing a free transfer system because now we match their numbers day and night, oh wait, no we dont, we didnt have a queue till an hour ago HAHA.

Three large EU guilds and an alliance from Fort Aspenwood transferred to Blackgate. Blackgate and Dragonbrand were very close together on the ELO and Dragonbrand’s lead came by inches. Blackgate’s new guilds made up the 23k lead Dragonbrand had been working on for four days in less than 12 hours.

Rebound.3409:

ANet thanks for offering a competitive “sport” if u can call it that, one of the most abusable things possible imagined.

As for BG..again nothing against u…u practically used the tools offered by anet…even if those tools are the worst imaginable they are still tools fully and fanatically supported by ANet.

LMAO, OMG I about pee’d myself when I read this. This is coming from a server that abuses the portal/rendering issue on a constant basis. So you sir need to check yourself before posting.

snivs.5134:

Rebound.3409:

ANet thanks for offering a competitive “sport” if u can call it that, one of the most abusable things possible imagined.

As for BG..again nothing against u…u practically used the tools offered by anet…even if those tools are the worst imaginable they are still tools fully and fanatically supported by ANet.

LMAO, OMG I about pee’d myself when I read this. This is coming from a server that abuses the portal/rendering issue on a constant basis. So you sir need to check yourself before posting.

As someone who has been hit by the Mesmer portals, I will say the I have seen them used by all three servers quite regularly.

What guilds from FA?

A quote from gw2guru forums from the EU guild you were stating:

All this hate, while all us Europeans are trying to do is find ourselves a new home. In response to the amount of tears shred in this thread, I decided to write down my own opinion and the reason why we decided to help out Blackgate (for now).

Our previous server (Vabbi) was literally -empty- except for our alliance, one or two great guilds, and a few Russian guilds that had no clue about English / Wv3 tactics (basically- LOOK! SUPPLIES! GRAB THEM ALL WHILE YOU CAN).

Two weeks ago, we were lined up against the French and German server. Frenchies had Canadians doing their night shifts, Germans simply outnumbered us. Basically: Server balancing? I don’t think so. This week, Vabbi was up against another 24hour-covered server.

We’ve had enough, we want a new home. Blackgate is treating us nicely- and I have to admit.. They’re a really strong server. Just like Dragonbrand and Fort Aspenthingy, both servers have great coordination. I’ve really had some good fights these past two days, thanks to all of you!

Will we stay? No clue. Would we have moved if server transferring wasn’t free? Yep, we wouldn’t be able to “simply” test out servers, but still Yeah we would’ve moved if Vabbi stayed this bad for another week or two. Has our presence given BG a HUGE ADVANTAGE? No. Our entire alliance hasn’t even moved. One of the guilds is there for about 85% – and MA is testing out the server as well. All together? Probably 40-50people (at max, if we’re all online).

Urge was doing wvwvw for almost 24 hrs. So was RQ. I’ve never seen any new guilds while we were taking the lead. I was in wvwvw from 4pm til 4am GMT +8. Please give credit where it’s due.

You know you guys on DB could always make a new post about “bad WvW experience” and jump ship to blackgate… or you could just cry more about people transferring and the numbers game falling out of your favor.

I don’t understand why server transfers are still free, the score shift and mass amount of guilds BG received is the perfect example. I’m sure the logic behind the score will get drowned out by the " We are better than you" type of posts , instead of the obvious " Yeah we just doubled our WvW population".
Then again scores don’t matter, the fights do… more badges! =)

You know first of all you say guilds when it was 1 guild of 15 people of which only like 6 came over.. second this entire THREAD is about people from BG TRANSFERING to DB so you stole a lot of our people and we just replaced a very small marigain so goes both ways but of course people will always find an excuse to why they loose soon it’ll just be well our people are afk or im laggy or my dog ate my computer. doesn’t matter, I’ll just use Kaides infamous line and say it back to them " look at the score board". but one thing is for certain when BG is in last place we don’t make excuses we just carry on till the end.

" Blackgate’s new guilds made up the 23k lead Dragonbrand had been working on for four days in less than 12 hours."

I’m quoting the comment because there’s nothing anyone can say about the subject better. 12 hours … is all it took to see the advantage the transfers made.

I’m okay with this change. As a Pacific time zone player, it’s been nice to fight in the evenings to some very even matches. In the times I played, we’d typically be in the range of -20 to +80 points, DB would be the reverse of that and FA would be somewhere in the middle. Basically, during the evenings we’d win slightly more than we lost. When I woke up and checked the scores in the morning on Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday (approx 7 AM PST), we’d be getting crushed by the same type of morning crew others are currently complaining about.

I was slightly frustrated but okay with it at the same time. Often there are limitations on playing the game and sometimes (as seen by BG players) we can recruit out of some of those limitations.

Kaide, I wish you the best in the future with DB with many future wins…just after crushing you beneath the heels of our boots.

-Corpserun

Ender.1472:

We’ve had enough, we want a new home. Blackgate is treating us nicely- and I have to admit.. They’re a really strong server. Just like Dragonbrand and Fort Aspenthingy, both servers have great coordination. I’ve really had some good fights these past two days, thanks to all of you!

Really glad to see more Euro guilds rolling on Blackgate. I also have to admit that I’ve had some fun fights this past week, mostly against Fort Aspenwood crews, specifically the UK guild (which is Oceanic I believe).

Interesting to see the change in the score over the past 24 hours or so, that’s for sure.

How about before a week battle start, server X, Y and Z can not transfer to each other for another week…no matter how many hops you do with other severs. That way you can still move to any other server at anytime but your account is blocking you from joining any of the other two you are fighting…no need to make people pay for transfers or increase the transfer time

I’m not terribly vocal in WvW chat but Kaide was never exactly a team player.

Glad you are liking DB. I’m loving the trash talk as you xfer mid match. It shows a great deal about you and what DB has to look forward to.

Sorry DB for your loss.

well, must be nice that sheer luck of 3 euro guilds transferring to blackgate to carry them out of the loss they had. Euro guilds dont want competition else they would of spread out among the 3 servers instead of merging on just 1. Real sportsman of you guys. Least it was fun while it lasted and it was still worth beating the tar out of blackgate til the fight got rigged

I love it here is my synopsis:

Kaide: I didn’t get my way I am taking my ball and going to Dragonbrand, boo hoo!

Blackgate responds: Good riddance:

Dragonbrand responds: Welcome new players and guilds to Dragonbrand!

Meanwhile Euro guilds move to Blackgate and Dragonbrand starts losing.

Dragonbrand response: You cheat only we can have people transfer to us mid match!

Weak and amusing at the same time. Reap what you sow Kaide.

As a Blackgate player I must also commend our leadership I have had nothing but good experiences with them and look forward to playing with them more now that my legendary farm is almost over! =)

BG since day 1 and staying that way. I love WvW on this server and I find that generally people work together quite well. This past weekend, I kept to FA borderlands exclusively and while it’s true there’s a lack of leadership in the day, at least on that map, Choco Eclair and on one occasion I remember, The Champ have entered at critical moments and turned things around. For their good performance these commanders have my respect.

I can be a little vocal on what I think the best course of action is when there’s no leadership on a map but when a commander shows up that’s the time to fall in line and work together. Arguing with the most visible person on the map or giving alternative orders only confuses our forces.

Anyway, best of luck to you Kaide on your new server and welcome to anybody joining us on BG. I really gotta find some time to get in WvW this week.

I don’t want Kaide back in BG. All he did was troll team chat and cause comotion. Kaide, please stay at Dragonbrand.

Soutalgon.3827:

well, must be nice that sheer luck of 3 euro guilds transferring to blackgate to carry them out of the loss they had. Euro guilds dont want competition else they would of spread out among the 3 servers instead of merging on just 1. Real sportsman of you guys. Least it was fun while it lasted and it was still worth beating the tar out of blackgate til the fight got rigged

We are not there yet. We have some 20-40 people trying out the server and talking with people to see if latency is a issue and if the server is good.

Nothing else. Our guilds are not there yet and the final choice have yet to happen so relax.

The 20k difference we overcame, do you guys know how much effort we put in it? we we’re doing wvwvw nonstop for like 12 hrs or more. So please stop saying that the 3 large EU guilds and FA guilds made the difference. There was none really.

Hey guys, that lasted long. Kaine already jumped ship on dragonbrand, guess they told him to skelk off too.

Narathkor.8541:

Hey guys, that lasted long. Kaine already jumped ship on dragonbrand, guess they told him to skelk off too.

I didn’t jump ship….

I’m checking out what the last place server in the world is like for 24 hours. I figure I had some free time to explore since BG called in the entire continent of Europe & FA Guilds for support.

LOL you actually did jump ship? Here I thought Narathkor was trolling.

Kaine.3501:

You want screen shots ok I’ll post what BG chat looks like. Lifa is in this one.

You want to know what my team is doing while Im fighting? Read the chat log.

HAHAHAHA.

Uh, ok, Iifa reporting in. I was told to come look at this thread for a laugh, and all I have to say is just… wow, lol.

I feel no need to defend myself, my words, or my actions, as I feel everyone here has come to their own successful conclusion about your motivations here.

Thanks for the laugh, troll. Ciao.

Good for BG on getting some European servers! Next time let us have one

I won’t lie it’s a bit demoralizing to see no one on Dragonbrand stay longer than 30 minutes to fight it out, but I guess that’s how things go. People left us when JQ kicked our kitten and people will leave us when another well rounded server comes in. We had queues for a few days, not all of prime time…but pretty close. Now I can jump back in whenever I want. Just no one else to play with except Atac, and my guild.

It’s all part of the game I really don’t know why everyone had to just up and go once they saw it happening instead of trying to fight. I had members tell me that everyone was in Lion’s Arch just crying about them instead of actually making a push on 1 borderland to at least get some points.

We’ll keep fighting and see how DB fairs next line up, maybe we’ll drop another tier and can kick those servers kitten and cheer up this server to get more than 2 guilds playing at one time.

Eurlin.4256:

Good for BG on getting some European servers! Next time let us have one

I won’t lie it’s a bit demoralizing to see no one on Dragonbrand stay longer than 30 minutes to fight it out, but I guess that’s how things go. People left us when JQ kicked our kitten and people will leave us when another well rounded server comes in. We had queues for a few days, not all of prime time…but pretty close. Now I can jump back in whenever I want. Just no one else to play with except Atac, and my guild.

It’s all part of the game I really don’t know why everyone had to just up and go once they saw it happening instead of trying to fight. I had members tell me that everyone was in Lion’s Arch just crying about them instead of actually making a push on 1 borderland to at least get some points.

We’ll keep fighting and see how DB fairs next line up, maybe we’ll drop another tier and can kick those servers kitten and cheer up this server to get more than 2 guilds playing at one time.

I think that is one of the things that helps to make BG so great is that, when I login at least, my guild and I look for which the worst battleground is and immediately queue up for that one and do our best to start retaking stuff. Being on BG I’ve noticed that when things really start to look grim we tend to do our best to push back and fight it out, even if it means defending a single camp with a ton of siege. Just because you are doing bad at one point in time doesn’t mean you will continue doing bad the rest of it. You just need to do your best to push back and eventually the enemy will get tired of throwing themselves against a wall, giving you a chance to rally and take over.

^ exactly, when the enemy thinks they have you beat is sometimes your best opportunity to rally. The only sure way to lose is to give up.

Eurlin.4256:

Good for BG on getting some European servers! Next time let us have one

I won’t lie it’s a bit demoralizing to see no one on Dragonbrand stay longer than 30 minutes to fight it out, but I guess that’s how things go. People left us when JQ kicked our kitten and people will leave us when another well rounded server comes in. We had queues for a few days, not all of prime time…but pretty close. Now I can jump back in whenever I want. Just no one else to play with except Atac, and my guild.

It’s all part of the game I really don’t know why everyone had to just up and go once they saw it happening instead of trying to fight. I had members tell me that everyone was in Lion’s Arch just crying about them instead of actually making a push on 1 borderland to at least get some points.

We’ll keep fighting and see how DB fairs next line up, maybe we’ll drop another tier and can kick those servers kitten and cheer up this server to get more than 2 guilds playing at one time.

I was there when the EU guilds and FA guilds spawned on Blackgates team. We didn’t just “give up”. Basically the entire server of DB stood beside me defending Klovan against an army at the very least 4 times our size. While fighting them I made multiple comments about it being like the battle for the Alamo. And just like the Alamo after siegeing Klovan from BEHIND the mountain tops with 3 trebs and using 3 rams and a catapult they were finally able to break down the wall an hour later. I stayed after Klovan when they assaulted our keep from the sewer pipe under water and we fought their entire team under water the best we could and held them off for another 2 hours. And when they were jumping out of the water into the keep I was with my allies killing every head we saw bob out of the water……AND EVEN WHEN THEY TOOK OVER THE KEEP because we were eventually overwhelmed by their sheer numbers I went into every chat channel and said “Blackgate is within 2k points of Dragonbrand your server needs you in Eternal Battleground! Let’s retake WvW and secure our servers victory!….it is now or never Dragonbrand.” And people were sending me tells complimenting me on my PR campaign….and we got more people to come into Eternal…..EVEN WITH THE EXTRA HELP Blackgate had so many people all we saw was Blackgate invaders and they pushed us back to the portals…..and the saddest part of all….is they were fighting FA AT THE SAME TIME in the Northeast side of the map who wasn’t making any ground either. So no…..we did not just “give up” like people who weren’t there and have no clue what they are talking about say.

I dunno man, I was on last night and DB was content to just throw themselves against SM castle all night. When I noticed you guys had the outmanned buff I left to go farm. FA was doing really well last night.

You know there’s a maximum number of players that can be on a map from a server right? Thats what this whole crazy talk about queuesi s all about. Now that your up to speed that force 4 tiems as bigas yours and also fighting FA just goes to show that there were very few people willing to fight for dragonbrand in this ‘epic’ defense.

On another note, didn’t you transfer from blackgate then when DB started to lose transfer again? Yea that was you. Yea you ARE a real hero. DB you gonna let this guy speak for you?

He does not speak for Dragonbrand and neither do I, but constantly bashing him shows just what type of person you are and everyone else who does. Yeah he made a dumb mistake with the original post, but we all make mistakes. Thinking that one person speaks for possibly thousands of people on just 1 server, and probably 50% of those people never even read these forums. Dragonbrand is a good server, one I am proud to be on since headstart. We have a lot of great people on Dragonbrand and sure we have bad apples, but so does every other server.

He could tell stories about his fight at the alamo all day, I couldn’t care at all honestly. That’s 1 keep and as he was saying the last keep. So if we had everyone defending this place for 3 hours, and you guys were at 600pts…that just proves that the maps were empty like was stated or we were getting our kitten beat. Either way we had outmanned buff, and were being farmed in one spot on each map.

I wasn’t there I was/am at work. I just know what the forums say, which was…..we were in trouble people gave up, (the lack of queue last night also proved that) and it sucks that it happened, but I’m not blaming BG for our servers faults. It’s why we lost last week and it’s why we’ll lose to any big 24/7 server.

As long as I can enjoy some PvP and try to rep Dragonbrand on WvW like I do every night. I’m fine with it.

Matters.6024:

He does not speak for Dragonbrand and neither do I, but constantly bashing him shows just what type of person you are and everyone else who does. Yeah he made a dumb mistake with the original post, but we all make mistakes. Thinking that one person speaks for possibly thousands of people on just 1 server, and probably 50% of those people never even read these forums. Dragonbrand is a good server, one I am proud to be on since headstart. We have a lot of great people on Dragonbrand and sure we have bad apples, but so does every other server.

He may not speak for the entire DB server, but he certainly bashed the entire BG server.

They’re bashing back. Yeah. He made a mistake. Now he’s paying for it.

Kam.8109:

They’re bashing back. Yeah. He made a mistake. Now he’s paying for it.

Idiots will be idiots and trolls will be trolls. Who gives a flying kitten what this guy said? Just let this dumb thread die in peace.

Eicherjw.3926:

Just let this dumb thread die in peace.

Yes we need to make room for more important threads like….

Lemme look at the other thread titles….

Hmm…. still looking for a better one….

This may take a while

bump

CC Eva please close this thread as well. thank you.

Kam.8109:

Eicherjw.3926:

Just let this dumb thread die in peace.

Yes we need to make room for more important threads like….

Lemme look at the other thread titles….

Hmm…. still looking for a better one….

This may take a while

Gotcha, so basically what you’re saying is that you’re 12. Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

Can a Mod please close this thread?

@ All

I’d like to clear up a few things so that you do not tarnish my good name and drag it through the mud with these shenanigans.

First off I did not jump ship for wins on DB. I don’t know where this came from or who made this up…..I left because guilds run WvW on BG like it is a dictatorship. I for one will not be silenced because someone more “popular” comes into the match that we are winning because of the strategies I had put in place….and be told that since this guy is repping a certain guild he is better at leading than I am and that I should be ignored. I could go on and on about the Choco debacle but we all know Choco lead hundreds to their deaths….we also know that as soon as all those people died Choco logged off. Why? Possibly to go make biscuits….this information I do not know. But I do know that up until that point we were winning and about to take over the map.

and when I switched to Dragonbrand I did not jump ship on my people either. When Blackgate called in for Europe’s support and Europe sent in forces to Blackgate that we havent seen since WW2 I did not flench….nor give one inch….and when the largest FA guild jumped ship and spit in my face by joining the evil empire Blackgate I fought side by side with my people until I was the last man standing. Then when I finally realized that Blackgate recovering 20k points in less than 8 hours had nothing to do with skill and that we were outnumbered more than the Spartans in the movie 300….I decided to take a 24 hour break from WvW and go visit Kaineng the last place team in our Battle group. Did I do it for wins? No! Kaineng is LAST PLACE! I did it so that I could type a post about my experiences on Kaineng and hopefully convince some people to transfer there.

Now stop dragging my good name through the mud.