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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

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It is, essentially, another WvW map. You can still fight each other, it will behave exactly like the JP used to, except you will be removed from EB so someone who wants to come in to fight for objectives will not be kept from playing by someone running the JP.

If I may ask, what was the purpose of continuing to allow people to fight in the JP?

I gave up on completing the puzzle a LOOONG time ago because I got tired of dealing with the fighting over it. All the times I’ve completed it, I’ve just been ported up.

Fighting over it is the only reason it’s worth having around

Agreed, there’s 40 jump puzzles for people who don’t want to fight in jump puzzles and 4 for those who do.

I have the feeling the only reason people want to fight in the EB JP in the first place is because there are people in there who just want to do the jumping puzzle. I’m not sure what effect this change will have. Guys who want to do gvg in there can do that, its an interesting map for that purpose I guess. You could agree on some objectives to reach in there. Having said that the rewards should be removed from the EB JP, let pvp folks have their fun in there. But if you guys get what you wish for the miracle will fade away in a few months, and it will be empty and forgotten.

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Posted by: Cameirus.8407

Cameirus.8407

sooo…. Anet can add in additional maps to WvWvW pretty easily.
Ok so designing the maps woudl take time, but the ability is there.

so Anet, when do we get more maps?

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Posted by: Urrid.4593

Urrid.4593

looks like you’ll have to actually participate in EB to get your badges

When I do play, I am a borderlands girl. The only time I’ve ever done a jumping puzzle was on thursday and if there were people doing portals.

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Posted by: Victory.2879

Victory.2879

Excellent news! Finally get rid of the annoying requests for mes in JP.

Maybe next they will disable portal skill inside the JP and make people actually complete it rather than just be ported up.

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Posted by: Liquid Storm.8097

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Wow. They actually removed the JP from EB queue. I’m impressed.

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Posted by: Katz.5143

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Suggestion:
1. Make a WvW lobby area (you select lobby from the same drop down menu where you sellect the wvw area to enter)
2. Have the entrance to the JPs in the lobby area (all of them).
3. Have crafting, banking, siege sellers, etc NPC’s there
4. Have the trainer…this is WvW, blah blah blah explanation stuff there
5. Have cool maps on the wall and a table top wargames area
6. Have the entrance to a dueling field and a gvg field/area/whatever

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Posted by: Wryscher.1432

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Now if they made it 2-3x bigger and had all the servers queue on the same jumping puzzle.

The chaos would be glorious. Deathmatch puzzle mode, activate!!

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

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This is a welcomed change!

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Will we have to qeue EB to enter JP? Or will there be a new entrance entirely?

You enter it the same way as before, but now you will see a conversation prompting you to leave the map to enter the JP.

so if EB is full and queue is needed, then we will not be able to enter the EB JP then.

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Posted by: Isaac.6041

Isaac.6041

This sounds interesting. So the jumping puzzle will be split off to its own map. Does this mean it would be possible for the jumping puzzle map to have its own queue?

Like, “too many players in the jumping puzzle” so you can’t get into the jumping puzzle map itself.

Would this even be likely to happen (do you think 100+ players are going to wait around in the jumping puzzle to gank people)? Maybe on reset nights.

Devon, do you know if this new JP map will have its own queue?

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Posted by: Luiz Swordbreaker.6547

Luiz Swordbreaker.6547

Welcome change indeed, only thing I don’t understand is why keep the entrance inside EB still? It’s the map that has the longest queue, so anyone that wants to do the JP, or do a GvG if (there will be enough room for that) will have to wait out on the EB queue.

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Posted by: Dragoon.9536

Dragoon.9536

a better suggestion would be a Guild Build waypoint into EB JP For 24 hr Only for said guild. Thus Would Create a guild vs guild Battle But now has a Cooldown on the waypoint for 5 day so it cant really be abuse and Can be use as a GvG placement to jump hoops for Guild that really matters.

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Posted by: Siphaed.9235

Siphaed.9235

Suggestion:
1. Make a WvW lobby area (you select lobby from the same drop down menu where you sellect the wvw area to enter)
2. Have the entrance to the JPs in the lobby area (all of them).
3. Have crafting, banking, siege sellers, etc NPC’s there
4. Have the trainer…this is WvW, blah blah blah explanation stuff there
5. Have cool maps on the wall and a table top wargames area
6. Have the entrance to a dueling field and a gvg field/area/whatever

They have a Lobbing area….incidentally it’s called LIONS ARCH!

Edit:

Please, stop with this GvG garbage. WvW is not nor ever going to be a place for “Guild vs Guild”. It’s “Server vs Server vs Server” content and that’s how it’ll stay, because it’s there to promote Server partnership amongst your server’s guilds, not conflict them against each other. Now, if they do ever add in GvG content, expect it to be in sPvP only.

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Posted by: rmBossa.4621

rmBossa.4621

Suggestion:
1. Make a WvW lobby area (you select lobby from the same drop down menu where you sellect the wvw area to enter)
2. Have the entrance to the JPs in the lobby area (all of them).
3. Have crafting, banking, siege sellers, etc NPC’s there
4. Have the trainer…this is WvW, blah blah blah explanation stuff there
5. Have cool maps on the wall and a table top wargames area
6. Have the entrance to a dueling field and a gvg field/area/whatever

They have a Lobbing area….incidentally it’s called LIONS ARCH!

Edit:

Please, stop with this GvG garbage. WvW is not nor ever going to be a place for “Guild vs Guild”. It’s “Server vs Server vs Server” content and that’s how it’ll stay, because it’s there to promote Server partnership amongst your server’s guilds, not conflict them against each other. Now, if they do ever add in GvG content, expect it to be in sPvP only.

WvW is inside of a game called GuildWars bro..

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Posted by: Cameirus.8407

Cameirus.8407

Suggestion:
1. Make a WvW lobby area (you select lobby from the same drop down menu where you sellect the wvw area to enter)
2. Have the entrance to the JPs in the lobby area (all of them).
3. Have crafting, banking, siege sellers, etc NPC’s there
4. Have the trainer…this is WvW, blah blah blah explanation stuff there
5. Have cool maps on the wall and a table top wargames area
6. Have the entrance to a dueling field and a gvg field/area/whatever

They have a Lobbing area….incidentally it’s called LIONS ARCH!

Edit:

Please, stop with this GvG garbage. WvW is not nor ever going to be a place for “Guild vs Guild”. It’s “Server vs Server vs Server” content and that’s how it’ll stay, because it’s there to promote Server partnership amongst your server’s guilds, not conflict them against each other. Now, if they do ever add in GvG content, expect it to be in sPvP only.

WvW is inside of a game called GuildWars bro..

Which has nothing to do with in game player guilds, its about an event in the games lore….

Yeah, please ditch the gvg stuff, lets get wvwvw sorted out first please.

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Posted by: cafard.8953

cafard.8953

Yeah, please ditch the gvg stuff, lets get wvwvw sorted out first please.

If the gvg crowd could leave our maps/queues, it’d be a win/win situation imho.

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

LetoII.3782

IMO JP’s were a carrot and stick for wvw.
Chest brings pver’s to wvw so pvpr’s can hit them with a stick.
It was much appreciated
I hope in new maps such devices are absent though. Would love the extra space for the main event.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

It is, essentially, another WvW map. You can still fight each other, it will behave exactly like the JP used to, except you will be removed from EB so someone who wants to come in to fight for objectives will not be kept from playing by someone running the JP.

Will you be able to send messages into the EB map channel to inform people that you can mesmer portal them to the end? I thought not.

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

I kindda want the Orbs back in WvW, it gave you something else to do.

Sure you had those player who would use the fly hack, cough cough still not patched yet since launch, but it was another objective in WvW.

What do we have now: You either take keeps or fight in the open field. We need more to do that just that! TBH if Anet were really up for us reporting hackers, we’d have a hacker option in the report box; and reintroducing the Orbs would tempt the hacker to fly in and steal Orbs again, and if people are there they are report that person. And yay one less hacker. But how serious is Anet now taking hackers?! There still seem to be so many in the game, even those who have been reported by an entire server are still playing on the same character.

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Posted by: Jimmy JimBob.2801

Jimmy JimBob.2801

Will we have to qeue EB to enter JP? Or will there be a new entrance entirely?

You enter it the same way as before, but now you will see a conversation prompting you to leave the map to enter the JP.

so if EB is full and queue is needed, then we will not be able to enter the EB JP then.

Certainly not a negative change though. It’s no different than before only now you no longer keep someone elses spot once you get in.

Good, quick fix imo

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Posted by: Katz.5143

Katz.5143

Suggestion:
1. Make a WvW lobby area (you select lobby from the same drop down menu where you sellect the wvw area to enter)
2. Have the entrance to the JPs in the lobby area (all of them).
3. Have crafting, banking, siege sellers, etc NPC’s there
4. Have the trainer…this is WvW, blah blah blah explanation stuff there
5. Have cool maps on the wall and a table top wargames area
6. Have the entrance to a dueling field and a gvg field/area/whatever

They have a Lobbing area….incidentally it’s called LIONS ARCH!

Edit:

Please, stop with this GvG garbage. WvW is not nor ever going to be a place for “Guild vs Guild”. It’s “Server vs Server vs Server” content and that’s how it’ll stay, because it’s there to promote Server partnership amongst your server’s guilds, not conflict them against each other. Now, if they do ever add in GvG content, expect it to be in sPvP only.

People were asking for ways to not clutter up the queue with people currently dueling, gvging and going to jp IN WVW. My suggestions were just a way to move the informal things people are doing to another area. People are currently taking up space dueling and gvging in wvw. Last time I looked you couldn’t go directly into the jp from lion’s arch without going into wvw. If people select to go to the lobby in order to go to the jp then they aren’t taking space in wvw.

I was not suggesting that they make anything as formal as an sPvp map. Just a place outside of wvw to move those currently occurring activities.

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Posted by: King Amadaeus.8619

King Amadaeus.8619

It is, essentially, another WvW map. You can still fight each other, it will behave exactly like the JP used to, except you will be removed from EB so someone who wants to come in to fight for objectives will not be kept from playing by someone running the JP.

EDIT: Okay, in the time it took me to write this, I see that Devon answered the question – and unfortunately I don’t think the answer is what most of us wanted to hear. Sigh. Why does AN always take the easiest path to “fix” things instead of taking a little longer and doing it right?

I took my car to the ANET mechanics shop, after analyzing the situation they called and said it would need a new 300hp engine. I said fine go ahead and “fix” it. When I went to pick it up today, it had 300 live horses strapped to the front bumper, with the same failed motor under the hood.

When I asked, they said “300hp is 300hp, working as intended.”

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Posted by: Ruprect.7260

Ruprect.7260

Please make it like an overflow, where everyone goes instead of just your tier. That way I can camp noobs on all servers not just our tier.

Now I will be able to camp with all of my spare time and not feel bad that I am taking up valuable WvW space. lol

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Posted by: EnemyCrusher.7324

EnemyCrusher.7324

WvW is inside of a game called GuildWars bro..

And the games are named after a series of events in the lore, not a type of PvP. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

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Posted by: CrassBippy.4619

CrassBippy.4619

look at people complaining about gvg. wvw is not serious business people, arena net ha a very small team working on it. Took 8 months to get do rewards that are mostly pointless. stop acting like people having fun and dueling for a short time is somehow ruining everything

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Posted by: itsmee.7536

itsmee.7536

I think we need something dynamic in WvW similar, but not the same, to the old Orbs. I believe we were promised that the orbs will be revisited in later months, and it has been several months since its removal.

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Posted by: Lance.5892

Lance.5892

WvW is inside of a game called GuildWars bro..

And the games are named after a series of events in the lore, not a type of PvP. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_vs_guild

weird, has no mention of lore anywhere

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Posted by: Edragor.9164

Edragor.9164

Why not put JP entry portal into the Mists or one on each borderland?

…with current changes some might still idle before the Portal in EB waiting for a Mesmer (and thus taking away space in EB)

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Posted by: Serebus.7314

Serebus.7314

WvW is inside of a game called GuildWars bro..

And the games are named after a series of events in the lore, not a type of PvP. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_vs_guild

weird, has no mention of lore anywhere

Im pretty sure he was talking about the reasoning behind the name and not a feature in the game…

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Posted by: EnemyCrusher.7324

EnemyCrusher.7324

WvW is inside of a game called GuildWars bro..

And the games are named after a series of events in the lore, not a type of PvP. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_vs_guild

weird, has no mention of lore anywhere

I don’t see your point. GvG is a type of PvP in the first Guild Wars game. It has nothing to do with the name of the name of the series, but I can see where people could be confused. The series is named for the Guild Wars, which are a part of the lore, and you can read about in the link I posted.

Im pretty sure he was talking about the reasoning behind the name and not a feature in the game…

Correct.

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Posted by: suprNovae.5410

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What is the player cap for the new map? Also around ~100 ?

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