Guild Wars 2

So, Jumping puzzles. I, for one, hate pvp. And I’m no big fan on the jumping puzzles, but I think they are ok. Therefor doing a pvp jumping puzzle is no ideal situation for me.

I need to do the jumping puzzles in the Borderlands and EB to get enough Badges for my legendary. I know it’s pvp but still, why do people insist to kill other people in the jumping puzzles? Especially in the EB JP. 2/3 times I try to do the JP in EB there are always 2+ people there killing other people. This drived me mad.

I get it, it’s wvw, pvp, but it’s in a closed off area with no connection to the rest of the wvw map. People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

I can see that some people are so bad in pvp/wvw that their only way of getting the monthly is to go and kill people in the JP’s who’s intention so to jump. Don’t even get me started on the PvE monthly where you need to do PvP to get, there is already a PvP monthly. Enough about that.

Can’t people do like me, and keep the kitten away from other people in the JP’s, no matter if it’s in the borderlands or EB.

This is not ment to be an angry post just trying to get an explanation.

Cheers!

You also get free blueprints for doing the JP.

And, if you are able to bind or even demotivate enough players due to camping the JP you are essentially helping your team win.

PvP in PvP area. Oh dear lord no!

When I do a jump puzzle in PvE why do random creatures have to attack me? Can’t they see I just want to jump and get out of PvE and back to WvW as soon as possible?

@Katsumoto.9452 Creatures in pve environment are rarely a problem, easy to kill, and the crap you get from finishing a pve JP is crap and is not used for any legendaries.

Don’t care much. I have to do a lot of PvE if I want a legendary. 500 badges really isn’t hard to get, why don’t you just play some WvW and get them. I can get 500 in a week quite easily. PvE players definitely have the better end of the stick in the legendary grind frankly.

The mini dungeon, commonly referred to as EB JP was designed to battle for resources (blueprints and badges) and cater to smaller scale pvp including but not restricted to camping and ganking. That’s why there’s also for example traps there to knock back or even kill enemies.
The problem is not the dungeon is designed like that but the problem is that pure PVE players need to do it for their legendaries if they’re so inclined to not participate in the battle which could be more fun than they think if they set aside their prejudices about pvp and pvp players.

@Katsumoto.9452 I can see that doing wvw activly will grant you enough badges within a week or more. But I can not stand pvp, just going into wvw to get my monthly done is a nightmere for me. I would rather walk around in Orr for a day and getting pulled around lige a rag doll then go into wvw. See my pain?

Just wish they would alter the arena. The massive advantage for the defenders as a choke point is just too much. Every thing else is perfect.

Josh P.1296:

Katsumoto pretty much said it all.

Niacin.4926:

People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

By the way. I go there to kill scrubs like you that end up crying on the forums.
Great source of badges for me!

So what do you need badges for, a legendary? So say you do actually need it for a legedary, and maybe even you want it for some of the gear/weapons you can buy.

Since scrubs like me go there, and you kill us for badges, how does this make you less of a scrub? Can’t you go you into the world and actually help the team out, since you are so damn pro.

And, btw, this is not a cry post, just a question with content to it, that needs an explanation.

People have been whining about it for months. It isn’t gonna change, and it shouldn’t.

Its a pvp zone, don’t join if you’re not prepared to pvp. “but i just want tokens for my legendary” is not a valid excuse. If you run into enemies at the puzzle and you don’t want to fight, wait awhile and come back later. If they are camping it with siege, wait a lot longer and do something else. Maybe actually PvP instead.

Niacin.4926:

So, Jumping puzzles. I, for one, hate pvp. And I’m no big fan on the jumping puzzles, but I think they are ok. Therefor doing a pvp jumping puzzle is no ideal situation for me.

I need to do the jumping puzzles in the Borderlands and EB to get enough Badges for my legendary. I know it’s pvp but still, why do people insist to kill other people in the jumping puzzles? Especially in the EB JP. 2/3 times I try to do the JP in EB there are always 2+ people there killing other people. This drived me mad.

I get it, it’s wvw, pvp, but it’s in a closed off area with no connection to the rest of the wvw map. People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

I can see that some people are so bad in pvp/wvw that their only way of getting the monthly is to go and kill people in the JP’s who’s intention so to jump. Don’t even get me started on the PvE monthly where you need to do PvP to get, there is already a PvP monthly. Enough about that.

Can’t people do like me, and keep the kitten away from other people in the JP’s, no matter if it’s in the borderlands or EB.

This is not ment to be an angry post just trying to get an explanation.

Cheers!

Nope, I mess with whatever enemy is in the JP because that is the point of it. It isn’t there for you to easily get to.

Niacin.4926:

Josh P.1296:

Katsumoto pretty much said it all.

Niacin.4926:

People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

By the way. I go there to kill scrubs like you that end up crying on the forums.
Great source of badges for me!

So what do you need badges for, a legendary? So say you do actually need it for a legedary, and maybe even you want it for some of the gear/weapons you can buy.

Since scrubs like me go there, and you kill us for badges, how does this make you less of a scrub? Can’t you go you into the world and actually help the team out, since you are so damn pro.

And, btw, this IS a cry post, I just don’t understand why I get killed in WvW zones?!

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To be fair, a Legendary wouldn’t be very Legendary if you didn’t at least dip your toe in the PvP side of the game. Some people hate when others camp the jumping puzzle, and I get that. Some people have a blast camping the jumping puzzle, and I get that too. All part of the game.

Best I can offer? Transfer to a tier with low population and/or a lopsided matchup so that the jumping puzzles are empty and/or generally under allied control.

Niacin.4926:

Josh P.1296:

Katsumoto pretty much said it all.

Niacin.4926:

People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

By the way. I go there to kill scrubs like you that end up crying on the forums.
Great source of badges for me!

So what do you need badges for, a legendary? So say you do actually need it for a legedary, and maybe even you want it for some of the gear/weapons you can buy.

Since scrubs like me go there, and you kill us for badges, how does this make you less of a scrub? Can’t you go you into the world and actually help the team out, since you are so damn pro.

And, btw, this is not a cry post, just a question with content to it, that needs an explanation.

There is nothing ‘pro’ about mindlessly zerging around tagging enemies.
I enjoy the smaller scale pvp that the EB jumping puzzle provides. I also enjoy frustrating people too.

Inb4 “if you like smaller scale pvp, go play tPvP.” <— I do play it as well.

Josh P.1296:

Niacin.4926:

Josh P.1296:

Katsumoto pretty much said it all.

Niacin.4926:

People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

By the way. I go there to kill scrubs like you that end up crying on the forums.
Great source of badges for me!

So what do you need badges for, a legendary? So say you do actually need it for a legedary, and maybe even you want it for some of the gear/weapons you can buy.

Since scrubs like me go there, and you kill us for badges, how does this make you less of a scrub? Can’t you go you into the world and actually help the team out, since you are so damn pro.

And, btw, this is not a cry post, just a question with content to it, that needs an explanation.

There is nothing ‘pro’ about mindlessly zerging around tagging enemies.
I enjoy the smaller scale pvp that the EB jumping puzzle provides. I also enjoy frustrating people too.

Inb4 “if you like smaller scale pvp, go play tPvP.” <— I do play it as well.

Ok, sure, you like small scale pvp. But 9/10 times I’ve been killed it’s been from above with no possible way to hit back before getting up there to them. And again, there is always 2+ people killing me, so by the time I’m up there I’m almost dead, if I’m so lucky to get up.

You know, Anet mixed PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 as well. This isn’t something new for them. They’ve been doing it for years. Personally, I enjoy it and hope they keep it up.

As for the OP’s question… the answer is no. What you’re going through is exactly what Anet designed. I’m sorry if you don’t like it, but this is the way Anet wants it to be. If you want to get your legendary, you have to do WvW. If you have to do WvW, then you’re going to run into players who will want to kill you.

The real question is: Do you want your legendary badly enough that you are willing to put up with it?

@Niacin – Basically they are bullies. You will hear millions of justifications but at the end of the day they want unequal setting so they can be a jerk to others with little or no reprisal or consequences. Every PvP game has these kinds of griefers, we just have to live with them. And this is why PvP communities get such a bad rep.

Josh P.1296:

kanikani.2430:

@Niacin – Basically they are bullies. You will hear millions of justifications but at the end of the day they want unequal setting so they can be a jerk to others with little or no reprisal or consequences. Every PvP game has these kinds of griefers, we just have to live with them. And this is why PvP communities get such a bad rep.

And you my friend just sound like another precious carebear scrub.

I have 5000 kills at this point and 500 hours into wvw. But thank you for proving my point.

Josh P.1296:

kanikani.2430:

Josh P.1296:

kanikani.2430:

@Niacin – Basically they are bullies. You will hear millions of justifications but at the end of the day they want unequal setting so they can be a jerk to others with little or no reprisal or consequences. Every PvP game has these kinds of griefers, we just have to live with them. And this is why PvP communities get such a bad rep.

And you my friend just sound like another precious carebear scrub.

I have 5000 kills at this point and 500 hours into wvw. But thank you for proving my point.

That doesn’t wash away the fact that you still sound like a precious whining scrub.

Did you recently join SoS to bask in their glory or are you just out to set a bad image for the server?

They are farming these threads. This is +1 for them. Trust me.

kanikani is right and Josh P a teen. /thread

kanikani.2430:

@Niacin – Basically they are bullies. You will hear millions of justifications but at the end of the day they want unequal setting so they can be a jerk to others with little or no reprisal or consequences. Every PvP game has these kinds of griefers, we just have to live with them. And this is why PvP communities get such a bad rep.

Complaining about PVP’ers PVP’ing in a PVP zone is silly. They are not griefers.

If you want to complain at all you should be complaining about the devs who put your jump puzzle in a PVP zone surrounded by PVP’ers looking to PVP.

Niacin.4926:

So, Jumping puzzles. I, for one, hate pvp. And I’m no big fan on the jumping puzzles, but I think they are ok. Therefor doing a pvp jumping puzzle is no ideal situation for me.

Stop right here.
If it isn’t fun for you, don’t do it. The end.

But you still want the rewards, right? I’m sure you do.

So you’ve got two choices, either do the stuff (PvP) anyways to get the reward (a legendary) you want, or don’t get the reward.

“Legendaries require PvP and I don’t wanna” is absolutely no different from “legendaries require exploration/crafting/dungeons and I don’t wanna”.

Niacin.4926:

@Katsumoto.9452 I can see that doing wvw activly will grant you enough badges within a week or more. But I can not stand pvp, just going into wvw to get my monthly done is a nightmere for me. I would rather walk around in Orr for a day and getting pulled around lige a rag doll then go into wvw. See my pain?

I’ve only completed one monthly. I takes a tiny amount of time to get the WvW kills for a monthly. It takes hours to go through multiple dungeon runs etc for a monthly. This ones is horrible with fractals, I hate it. Guess what I do instead of whining about it, I play what I do enjoy which is WvW.

Monthlies, achievements and legendary weapons are in no way compulsory. There are many achievements i’ll never get, many monthlies i’ll never complete and possibly i’ll never achieve a legendary weapon. However i’ll buy enough siege to weigh down a tectonic plate, i’ll kill enough enemies to win a war solo, and die many times to match, i’ll run those suicide missions to take that enemy trebuchet down and i’ll lead people on my server to victory or defeat. Why? I enjoy it.

Hate PvP? Don’t do it. I’ve resigned to the fact that this game isn’t made for one type of player and nor should it be. It’s a massive game designed to have something for everyone, and none of the content should be required.

The biggest thing ANYONE should complain about at the moment is that ascended gear is only obtainable using one method which a significant proportion of the population dislikes. Anet stated they are changing that though, so that’s fine by me.
/rant

You could always just ask in /map if there’s any mesmers porting people up in the jumping puzzle.

Unfortunately.5940:

You could always just ask in /map if there’s any mesmers porting people up in the jumping puzzle.

Negative. MMO’s aren’t made for people to talk to other people playing the game! Oh…wait…

Niacin.4926:

So, Jumping puzzles. I, for one, hate pvp. And I’m no big fan on the jumping puzzles, but I think they are ok. Therefor doing a pvp jumping puzzle is no ideal situation for me.

I need to do the jumping puzzles in the Borderlands and EB to get enough Badges for my legendary. I know it’s pvp but still, why do people insist to kill other people in the jumping puzzles? Especially in the EB JP. 2/3 times I try to do the JP in EB there are always 2+ people there killing other people. This drived me mad.

I get it, it’s wvw, pvp, but it’s in a closed off area with no connection to the rest of the wvw map. People go there to get the badges/achievement, not to fight other people.

I can see that some people are so bad in pvp/wvw that their only way of getting the monthly is to go and kill people in the JP’s who’s intention so to jump. Don’t even get me started on the PvE monthly where you need to do PvP to get, there is already a PvP monthly. Enough about that.

Can’t people do like me, and keep the kitten away from other people in the JP’s, no matter if it’s in the borderlands or EB.

This is not ment to be an angry post just trying to get an explanation.

Cheers!

This right here is why we do it.