Guild Wars 2

Lorelei.3918:

Itt Asura conditions thief’s and pu Mesmer roamers beat people with team oriented builds and claim they are ‘no skill zerglings’.

I just have to ask…U mad bro?

Naw not mad. Amused. I’d be even more amused if the leet pro roamer servers got merged with those ‘no skill zerg’ servers.

Dano.5298:

Arius.7031:

Dano.5298:

Jeknar is absolutely right. ET has been bailing out gw2 WvW by trying as hard as we do. If we die than WvW can crumble! You can’t just ignore a server and say, “sorry, but don’t mess with my server.” I’d hope that you can see that competition needs to have parody and as its set up, there are very few reasons to play on ET for most people.

There’s a lot we can do though:

1) Hope that people want parody and stop ktraining when servers lack coverage (I know, I know)

2) Lower tiered servers get transfers

3) change the ppt system so that competition matters.

4) make WvW megaserver’d for 4-5 hours during the “dead” time

One thing is for sure though: (Please believe me!!)

ET is hamstrung due to terrible number discrepancies. It’s not that noone tags up or we lack strategy… there’s just noone on!

I feel like gw2 has been very lucky to have who ET has… We’ve basically been your (every other server’s) punching bag for the past several months. Is it really hard to believe that the competitive lot of us are maybe getting tired of it?

Nobody is suggesting nothing be done to help ET. We’re saying that a knee-jerk reaction solution like server merging is not the best option available. It’s an extreme option that should only be used as a last resort. Myself and others have suggested plenty of ways to help ET (and other t8 servers in specific) gain some population with any luck (free tansfers for t8 for example, permanently). That said, if those don’t work then more extreme measures may be considered, and then and ONLY then will I be arguing nothing more should be done for ET. The sad fact is, in a fairly sandbox mode, some people/groups will be less fortunate/successful than others. I don’t want my server to got through drastic changes because SOME people on ONE server in gw2 are discontent with WvW atm.

I appreciated what you are saying and I’m very glad the majority of servers are content with their status. I hate the idea of a guild bailing on any server to help us which is why I’m very focused on trying to get new players into WvW.

The only thing I disagree with is you kinda missed my point I think. I mean no disrespect but servers aren’t disconnected in the way you describe. ET goes down any further than it has, the whole system will be drastically worse off. If the try hards of ET finally get fed up, then the next to “worse” server becomes the next ET and so on.

It will be no fun for Ebay, Kain, AR etc to play us which will expedite the WvW collapse by incentivizing people on those servers to move somewhere where there is actually a 1v1v1 component and fights.

If any server is down for too long, your server, no matter where you are will fall too.

I’m not advocating for a server merge, but peeps gotta realize WvW as a whole is a community.. its not just on a server wide basis. This is why to me, the WvW community as a whole needs to look down on guilds transferring away from low pop servers and commend those like Svrn who did the opposite.

Maybe thats too theoretical, which I grant you, but its frustrating to me that people just disregard ET and think everything will be fine for them if ET falls any further. Lastly I’ll add, the more balance we have the more players we will keep in WvW as it will actually be fun for new players and keep experienced players involved.

I agree almost 100% with what you’ve said pretty much. I’m just here in this thread advocating we discuss less drastic measures before merges (e.g. scaling server transfer costs, bottom server in t8 or all of t8 itself gets free transfers, maybe t7 gets something like 400 gem transfers, then increase by increments of 200 each tier you go up).

Arius.7031:

You’re only giving the example of T8. In T7, literally as I speak, we’re flipping each other’s keeps/towers in bls/eb and retaking them back and forth with 15+ groups.

Yes that’s called the Friday karma train.

If that happens on any other day of the week its kinda sad, its just PvE farming.

thaooo.5320:

Arius.7031:

You’re only giving the example of T8. In T7, literally as I speak, we’re flipping each other’s keeps/towers in bls/eb and retaking them back and forth with 15+ groups.

Yes that’s called the Friday karma train.

If that happens on any other day of the week its kinda sad, its just PvE farming.

No, you misunderstand. We’re (sometimes, not always) fighting each other for these things as well. We’re not literally just swapping.

Arius.7031:

Dano.5298:

Arius.7031:

Dano.5298:

Jeknar is absolutely right. ET has been bailing out gw2 WvW by trying as hard as we do. If we die than WvW can crumble! You can’t just ignore a server and say, “sorry, but don’t mess with my server.” I’d hope that you can see that competition needs to have parody and as its set up, there are very few reasons to play on ET for most people.

There’s a lot we can do though:

1) Hope that people want parody and stop ktraining when servers lack coverage (I know, I know)

2) Lower tiered servers get transfers

3) change the ppt system so that competition matters.

4) make WvW megaserver’d for 4-5 hours during the “dead” time

One thing is for sure though: (Please believe me!!)

ET is hamstrung due to terrible number discrepancies. It’s not that noone tags up or we lack strategy… there’s just noone on!

I feel like gw2 has been very lucky to have who ET has… We’ve basically been your (every other server’s) punching bag for the past several months. Is it really hard to believe that the competitive lot of us are maybe getting tired of it?

Nobody is suggesting nothing be done to help ET. We’re saying that a knee-jerk reaction solution like server merging is not the best option available. It’s an extreme option that should only be used as a last resort. Myself and others have suggested plenty of ways to help ET (and other t8 servers in specific) gain some population with any luck (free tansfers for t8 for example, permanently). That said, if those don’t work then more extreme measures may be considered, and then and ONLY then will I be arguing nothing more should be done for ET. The sad fact is, in a fairly sandbox mode, some people/groups will be less fortunate/successful than others. I don’t want my server to got through drastic changes because SOME people on ONE server in gw2 are discontent with WvW atm.

I appreciated what you are saying and I’m very glad the majority of servers are content with their status. I hate the idea of a guild bailing on any server to help us which is why I’m very focused on trying to get new players into WvW.

The only thing I disagree with is you kinda missed my point I think. I mean no disrespect but servers aren’t disconnected in the way you describe. ET goes down any further than it has, the whole system will be drastically worse off. If the try hards of ET finally get fed up, then the next to “worse” server becomes the next ET and so on.

It will be no fun for Ebay, Kain, AR etc to play us which will expedite the WvW collapse by incentivizing people on those servers to move somewhere where there is actually a 1v1v1 component and fights.

If any server is down for too long, your server, no matter where you are will fall too.

I’m not advocating for a server merge, but peeps gotta realize WvW as a whole is a community.. its not just on a server wide basis. This is why to me, the WvW community as a whole needs to look down on guilds transferring away from low pop servers and commend those like Svrn who did the opposite.

Maybe thats too theoretical, which I grant you, but its frustrating to me that people just disregard ET and think everything will be fine for them if ET falls any further. Lastly I’ll add, the more balance we have the more players we will keep in WvW as it will actually be fun for new players and keep experienced players involved.

I agree almost 100% with what you’ve said pretty much. I’m just here in this thread advocating we discuss less drastic measures before merges (e.g. scaling server transfer costs, bottom server in t8 or all of t8 itself gets free transfers, maybe t7 gets something like 400 gem transfers, then increase by increments of 200 each tier you go up).

Gotya well /salute and thanks for reading my post.

I would like any help we can get but I fear that with que’s getting shorter and shorter in higher tiers, there will be no incentive for people to come to lower tiers, regardless of transfer costs.

One suggestion I had would be to make siege timers 3 hours on lower tier servers… I mean that may be kinda a nice reason to come to ET. I also think maybe some better rewards?

I’m with you, lets not do anything drastic but something appropriate should be done and it will need to be less drastic the quicker that change is done.

ive been on both T1 and the lower tier servers

1st id like to say they ive seen people talk about community but with the mega servers they pretty much eliminated that.

2. roaming on lower servers is not much of a challenge as the skill level is a lot lower

3. the easy fix to wvw is a simple one add ways for the smaller servers with low populations to gain points, as anet themselves said they would try but never did a common theme with them small groups get more points for capturing objectives towers, keeps and castles only. defending small groups get more againist forces twice their number or greater doesn’t have to be a lot of points but it more be nice to reward the lower tier servers for the wvw player that are loyal to them