Guild Wars 2

Hexalot.8194:

LOL… to state the obvious, one man’s nerf is another man’s “excellent balance move”. :P

More like another 8 class’ excellent balance move!

To return to the topic of WvW, that backstab “nerf” was game-wide and affected more than just D/P. This was a case of thief as a whole being nerfed without the nerf being aimed at WvW players specifically. On the other hand, within the past 6 months, other classes have received sPvP nerfs (that carried over to WvW) that honestly had no effect whatsoever on zerg play and are therefore aimed specifically at roamers.

That’s what really irks many of us. Nerfs aimed at the minority of roamers will only further homogenize the roaming scene which is not healthy for it.

Choppy.4183:

babazhook.6805:

I will tell you what. Next time our two servers face off you get on your d/p and SB thief and I will get on my roamer warrior and you let me know which map you will go roaming on. You can then show me how just by using SB and D/P you can flip those camps while my warrior there just by your using dodges and kiting without entering stealth.

You’re saying you don’t know how to do it on your thief? My bet is you do, and a better test of it would be me on my warrior and you on your thief.

Just run me around a hut, use shortbow and shadow step, and watch how easy it’ll be for you. And that’s me competently playing a speedy build. Pity the poor necro.

You suggested that all a thief has to do is dodge and kite wih SB in order to kill an enemy.

I want you to back up your claim. You do know shadowstp is on a 50 second cooldown? You do know that if you use the port on SB it does little damage as it eats ini? You do know that if your thief runs around a building it YOUR los that is blocked?

Are you trying to flip the camp or are you just trying to run in circles?

The reason I suggest you get on a thief and LEARN the build is so that you can better understand what its strengths and weaknesses are so you can counter the same. You have already all but admitted you can not deal with one and I see little reason why I should get on my thief and establish that the case.

The S/b d/p combo is the most common on thief. D/p has no ports that allows for “kiting” and is not really made for kiting. If you want to kite in the scenario you outline this means sticking to S/b with the port on number 5 using 5 ini , meaning 3 uses tops with no damage done.

If you truly believe a SB thief can beat a warrior or other class just by kiting , I can only wonder why every thief not out there using SB.

babazhook.6805:

You suggested that all a thief has to do is dodge and kite wih SB in order to kill an enemy.

Um… no I didn’t. I said that a thief is able to easily contest a cap and that stealth isn’t required. Does that help clear it up? It seems like you misunderstood what I was saying.

Edit: Also, as for not being able to beat a thief on my warrior… man, I’ve beaten you (and you’ve won as well, iirc). There’s no need to get all salty here.