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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Link guild progression to servers and reset it with every move. The guild moves are what throw things out of balance.

This is a brilliant idea to stop server hopping. You are absolutely correct that this is the biggest issue affecting WvW imbalance at present. It’s not the single player transfers that is causing the problem It’s the huge guild hopping servers that is doing it. How can ANet be expected to fix WvW imbalance issues while huge guilds are moving at will between servers? Not to mention the fact that the current (extremely prevalent) practice of servers “buying” guilds is wrong and needs to stop. There needs to be a HUGE penalty for guild moves between servers. Drop their guild hall by, oh, say 20 levels, and they will be thinking twice about server hopping, I’ll bet!

Whats worse for WvW on the whole: A 100 man guild moving to another server or a 100 man guild quitting the game cause they are stuck in a rut?

Also you would run into a problem if a T1 guild want to move to say T3. This idea says no, lets punish you for that.

Fact is, WvW has a certain amount of players. They dont just pop up out thin air or duplicate themselves upon transfering.

All these suggestions of “population balance” is like having 4 peas in a line and arguing that if pea #1 move to position 2 while pea #3 arent allowed to move to position 1 but if pea #2 could go position 4 its gonna be alright.

When you are done balancing you’ll still have 4 kittening peas in a line.

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Posted by: mordran.4750

mordran.4750

Whats worse for WvW on the whole: A 100 man guild moving to another server or a 100 man guild quitting the game cause they are stuck in a rut?

Or 100 random players quitting WvW because they get perma destroyed by these ultimate zergballs of lameness Arenanet created with this megastupid linking.

Seems like they will loose people anyway

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Posted by: Kurowolfe.7396

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Or 100 random players quitting WvW because they get perma destroyed by these ultimate zergballs of lameness Arenanet created with this megastupid linking.

Seems like they will loose people anyway

Heh, yeah. There was one week where I stayed online in EotM almost 24/7, to farm the reward tracks and to at help any new faces that might come in needing the Gift of Battle. I almost pity those who only wanted that gift, having to experience the horror that is being murdered over and over again by blobs, even near our spawn points, being ganked by spawn campers. Seeing the wall of red text is not something a new person would want to see, and they usually bail immediately when they see that xD

Again, if WvW dies off eventually, I’ll be okay with it

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

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Why same servers are linked whole time? If server win match over 100k points every week it’s kind of clear that they don’t need other server help.

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Posted by: AzureWolf.9150

AzureWolf.9150

Linking will be fine if they monitor it closely and make periodic adjustments so that evenly matched teams are facing each other, which is pretty much what they have promised will start with Friday’s re-linking.

I’ve only been WvWing for a bit now (inspired by the change to “Gift of Battle” like others), but I’ve enjoyed it much more than I thought I would, despite being on the short end of a mis-matched grouping (I’m on Gates of Madness so I’m in the Sorrow’s Furnace group against Darkhaven and Yak’s Bend…. and enough others have posted that I don’t need to tell you how that mach up has been working ).

Regardless of this mis-match, when Sorrow’s Furnace gets enough peeps on and some good commanders (which I’ve already seen a few of), it becomes a lot of fun. But it’s rare we get the population needed to hold our own and I’m really looking forward to the new linking on Friday.

As others have said, when three evenly matched teams face each other in WvW….now that is where the fun really is.

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Posted by: Grendels Mother.5713

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Linking has changed nothing, proof is in the server rankings – the fact you have links with T1 servers is proof the word “balance” means nothing to Anet WvW.

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Posted by: Rotteny.8743

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Well, in NA the server that is winning T1 is alone against 2 servers that have links… If these servers were alone they would be losing even harder. Your argument of using linked T1 servers as faulty balance is invalid.

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

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Linking will be fine if they monitor it closely and make periodic adjustments so that evenly matched teams are facing each other, which is pretty much what they have promised will start with Friday’s re-linking.

Where did they say they will make periodic adjustments starting with this Friday’s re-linking? I don’t think Anet said that. I think some posters said that’s what they should do but Anet didn’t say it.

Anet wanted re-linkings every 3 months, longer than now, because it takes a lot of work to re-link. (Probably one reason why they went with 2-months instead of 1-month which got the most votes.)

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Posted by: Hexinx.1872

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Well, in NA the server that is winning T1 is alone against 2 servers that have links… If these servers were alone they would be losing even harder. Your argument of using linked T1 servers as faulty balance is invalid.

Presently TC is not linked. But DB will be back up on friday I’m sure

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Posted by: Rotteny.8743

Rotteny.8743

Well, in NA the server that is winning T1 is alone against 2 servers that have links… If these servers were alone they would be losing even harder. Your argument of using linked T1 servers as faulty balance is invalid.

Presently TC is not linked. But DB will be back up on friday I’m sure

BG also beat DB last week. So my statement still stand.

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Posted by: AzureWolf.9150

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Linking will be fine if they monitor it closely and make periodic adjustments so that evenly matched teams are facing each other, which is pretty much what they have promised will start with Friday’s re-linking.

Where did they say they will make periodic adjustments starting with this Friday’s re-linking? I don’t think Anet said that. I think some posters said that’s what they should do but Anet didn’t say it.

Anet wanted re-linkings every 3 months, longer than now, because it takes a lot of work to re-link. (Probably one reason why they went with 2-months instead of 1-month which got the most votes.)

Possibly I’m misreading this, but it seems that your tier will now dynamically change with each match up, moving you to the appropriate tier.

http://dulfy.net/2016/04/22/gw2-wvw-world-linking-beta/

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Posted by: Liston.9708

Liston.9708

Linking will be fine if they monitor it closely and make periodic adjustments so that evenly matched teams are facing each other, which is pretty much what they have promised will start with Friday’s re-linking.

Where did they say they will make periodic adjustments starting with this Friday’s re-linking? I don’t think Anet said that. I think some posters said that’s what they should do but Anet didn’t say it.

Anet wanted re-linkings every 3 months, longer than now, because it takes a lot of work to re-link. (Probably one reason why they went with 2-months instead of 1-month which got the most votes.)

Possibly I’m misreading this, but it seems that your tier will now dynamically change with each match up, moving you to the appropriate tier.

http://dulfy.net/2016/04/22/gw2-wvw-world-linking-beta/

look at that date….. we have had 2 linkings with a 3rd this Friday over 16 weeks. Both linkings were very flawed as the data that was used to generate the links was woefully outdated totally ignoring recent trends and population movements.

YB was ranked way too high both times when the linkings were made. T4, as you have seen is a real cluster, that’s been imbalanced for 8 weeks. From my understanding many people in that 2 server link have transferred or quit because they were stuck with that horrid linking for 8 weeks.

YB→YB→YB→YB→YB→YB→YB→most likely YB

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Posted by: nolasthitnotomorrow.8563

nolasthitnotomorrow.8563

All they need to do is implement more stupid kitten for LA afk guys to farm in WvW. When they’ll find out they can only farm WvW exclusive legendaries by cooperating with WvW guilds then they’ll probably be more interested in playing the mode. It is pretty simple, not transfers no linkin nothing like that will fix your problem. Economy is alawys at fault.

Maybe if legendaries were exclusive to WvW players since the release date of the game it wouldn’t be like that today. :v

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Posted by: Norbe.7630

Norbe.7630

All these suggestions of “population balance” is like having 4 peas in a line and arguing that if pea #1 move to position 2 while pea #3 arent allowed to move to position 1 but if pea #2 could go position 4 its gonna be alright.

When you are done balancing you’ll still have 4 kittening peas in a line.

that line is the tier right?
they should bend that line, make it into a circle
besides, its fun riding a Ferris wheel rather than a Seesaw~

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