Guild Wars 2

Habib Loew.6239:

The North American and European data centers are different in one important respect: they are located on different continents. North American players connecting to the NA data center (and European Union players connecting to the EU data center) will generally experience lower latency and a higher likelihood of playing with larger groups of other players, as those in the same data center tend to operate during similar times of the day. So there are real distinctions between the data centers which their EU/NA affiliations make clear and for that reason we will not be removing their continent designations.

We don’t match up worlds from multiple data centers for similar reasons. Ultimately, the server that runs a WvW map must live somewhere in the world and the players who connect from that same continent will have a distinct advantage over those connecting from another continent due to lower latency. In order to keep things as fair as possible to all involved we keep the matchups within each data center.

Of course it is always possible for an EU player to choose to play on an NA server, or vice-versa, but in doing so that player is choosing to take on the burden of additional latency. That situation is vastly different from our matching system placing an entire team at a latency disadvantage without their knowledge or consent.

tl;dr: data centers are on different continents, latency is an issue with inter-continental connections, data center distinctions are here to stay.

I think this is a weak argument because:

1. Latency advantage is largely nullified by time-zones. If servers were in America and I live in South Korea, American’s aren’t awake to take advantage of their better connection when I play. The people I will be competing against will also be connecting over the ocean so it’s a level field.

2. The system is already biased because people in the same country already do have an advantage over others. EU servers being located in Frankfurt means German players have an advantage over someone in the UK say. By this line of thought, why isn’t there a ladder for each country?

You should really be considering that the benefits of WvW merges could significantly outweigh the issue of latency. If the community is behind merges and willing to take a hit to their latency, then it should be given some thought to preserve longevity of WvW.

Bluesavanah.8562:

Much as I would like some more night players on Gandara merging servers is not the answer. We have an excellent community spirit on our server and there is a large chance that would be destroyed by a sudden influx of 100’s / 1000’s of players.

The situation where you feel burned out due to over playing and such I have faced myself in WoW where I was a raid leader unfortunately there is only 1 solution to this and it involves only you. Walk away from the game and take a break, you may not think its needed but if you have reached the point where you think the servers rise and fall depends on you being there all the time its definately time to step back.

I disagree. WvW merging is one of the best solutions. WvW got off the wrong foot from the very beginning because ArenaNet adopted a structure that segregates the community rather than unites it.

Players in non-24/7 servers have no one else to depend on outside their prime hours. If you staying late or not is the difference between your server holding its ranking or dropping down the ladder then its definitely a big burden. In top tier servers with 24/7 presence this doesn’t happen because when you sleep, there will always been someone to cover the next shift.

Merging servers can give everyone the luxery of having 24/7 presence.

I think instead of having 24/7 wvw, reducing # of days per round is also an option. For example: wvwvw is only from thursday – Sunday. That will allow wvw players to have break for 3 days to do other things pve or whatever.

In addition, a new format of wvw / pvp could also be added to occur between wvw gap.
- System that is a marriage between wvwvw and spvp. Instead of having 5v5 and small maps, they could have big maps like wvwvw and starting # cap players of 30-50 (arbitrary for now).
- More players can join in and they would be put in holding area for queue. They can get into the battlefield if only there is similar queue in other servers. This is to maintain balance for # of people in the field from each server.
- There is time limit for this battle, say 3 events per day: 6 hrs in NA prime time, 6 hrs in EU prime time and 6 hrs in oceanic prime time.

Nashaan.3160:

@Arrclyde

I agree with you about it being more noticeable on EU servers. If a server goes quiet at night with minimal population as how I noted on an EU server, it would only take one guild from a different timezone to vastly change the balance. Then comes the snowball effect, as soon as that server starts travelling up the rankings more and more people jump on the bandwagon for an easy ride through the tiers.

See now we are getting closer to reality. In EU it is just this way. People stay up all night. Not all, just a few. And the server with more “nightflyers” activ will win and turn the map and finally have +450 up to +600 for 12 – 18 hours in ONE 24 hour time of day.
Nice that you mention the “snowballeffect”. I am sure that u can imagine how much faster the Snowball rolls under these conditions. I have seen many matches where one sever manages to bring mor People on mondays, tuesdays, and wednesdays just to double their points to the brackets 2nd place. That means match is over. Players on servers that lose with such a big difference don’t log in again. Some (don’t know how many really) transfer to the seemingly better server….. until some other Server has more abillity to capture at night.
That is why u can see Server move much between brackets. Not only between 1 and 2. No they go up from down below to the Top (or almost), get beaten and fall over the next two weeks 2 tiers, recover and there we go again….. just hit repeat.

I don´t know much about NA-servers but tell me how big are your “nightshifts”? My Server ist currently rank 8, that means we are in the 3rd bracket or tier or league, how ever you like to call it. And we are holding us there…… with a 10 to 15 men/women (45 to 50 if we are lucky) to cover 3 borderlands and the eternal battleground, as far as i heared. In top 10 ranking. And most others have the same. That is why u can see huge diffrences in points all across the board.
That is because in a “onetimezone” it takes more efford to organize bigger groups during night and morning, as if u are awake anyways cause of another timezone (oceanic and Australia in NA).

That is why all those hints of that kind “nightcapping and you” just don´t work for EU servers at all. Don´t get me wrong, i am not mad about it all. I am not taking it serious and don´t even mind it to be that way. I play WvW when i like and as much as i like. And when the time comes that it isn’t fun anymore, i will just stay offline. I am just suggesting that we must think of an better way, coz i pretty much think i am not the only one who is staying offline if the game is not fun anymore. Snowballeffects spread and grow in all directions…… that’s why it is called so ;-)

Same with the Lootbug. But that is a diffrent story. ;-) It must be a bug, cause who would be so “not so smart” to hurt the number one rule in threating customers: “u better don´t give something to customers that they don´t know about, than take away something they are used to” Lowering the droprate would be most stupid thing a company could ever do over long terms. And i don´t believe Arenanet is stupid. I hope that they are silent on all those cases because they are working on solutions (let me dream guys :-P)

If you want to see what it would be like to have a merged ladder move over to EU this week there should be a good Tier one match that could use NA coverage. Try it out for a week.

Vizunah Square – A very Strong French server.
Blacktide – Last weeks number one sever, primarly an English server.
Seafarer’s Rest – has been moving up and had some NA guilds move over this week.

Tatania.2704:

I think instead of having 24/7 wvw, reducing # of days per round is also an option. For example: wvwvw is only from thursday – Sunday. That will allow wvw players to have break for 3 days to do other things pve or whatever.

In addition, a new format of wvw / pvp could also be added to occur between wvw gap.
- System that is a marriage between wvwvw and spvp. Instead of having 5v5 and small maps, they could have big maps like wvwvw and starting # cap players of 30-50 (arbitrary for now).
- More players can join in and they would be put in holding area for queue. They can get into the battlefield if only there is similar queue in other servers. This is to maintain balance for # of people in the field from each server.
- There is time limit for this battle, say 3 events per day: 6 hrs in NA prime time, 6 hrs in EU prime time and 6 hrs in oceanic prime time.

Nice ideas, except it wouldn’t work. PvPers don’t do PvE as a rule, and not all PvPers who WvW like sPvP. And even if you reduced the number of days you can WvW, it still wouldn’t help the issue of having or not having 24hr coverage.
I would imagine the majority of the playerbase would also object to being told when they can or can’t WvW.

I see your idea of reducing the mount of time players can WvW and assume its based on Jedahs QQing about the game killing him because he just HAS to play 24/7. If you were to base assumptions on his posts in this and his last thread, you could be forgiven for thinking that he, and the rest of MERC are the only guild keeping SoS at #1 which is complete bollocks. I am sure the rest of SoS would take offence at the implication they are all carried by MERC. Yes, MERC has a heavy WvW prescence, but they aren’t the only guild I see on the borderlands (can’t speak for EB as I don’t go on it).

defrule.7236:

1. Latency advantage is largely nullified by time-zones. If servers were in America and I live in South Korea, American’s aren’t awake to take advantage of their better connection when I play. The people I will be competing against will also be connecting over the ocean so it’s a level field.

2. The system is already biased because people in the same country already do have an advantage over others. EU servers being located in Frankfurt means German players have an advantage over someone in the UK say. By this line of thought, why isn’t there a ladder for each country?

You should really be considering that the benefits of WvW merges could significantly outweigh the issue of latency. If the community is behind merges and willing to take a hit to their latency, then it should be given some thought to preserve longevity of WvW.

1. Wrong – there’s plenty of Americans up late. Probably about half my server’s presence during Oceanic primetime is still US-based. Thankfully the ping difference isn’t enough to be a serious problem.

2. Difference between 20ms and 120ms ping is insignificant in GW. The difference between 200ms and 400ms ping is not. London and Frankfurt are just down the road by comparison to Seoul and Dallas.

If you haven’t had to play on a European server with 400-500ms ping minimum, you have no idea what the “issue of latency” is. For the entire east Asian playerbase and most of eastern Europe, server population can not “outweigh” lag because the game is simply unplayable if they have to use different servers.

Wtf is this MERC carrying SOS bullkitten?

I never mentioned my guild at all

Latency issues is not something that A.net could do someting about. It’s every single hub your data passes through on the way to the server and back that can cause delays and/or packet loss which also depends on your ISP.
Sure some might not notice any difference but I’ve noticed difference in various games that had localized servers and I switched between datacenter.
For example when lotro was still hosted by codies in EU I had a latency of 15-25 (most often 15’ish) because the server was located in my country. When turbine decided to have only 1 datacenter based in US my latency went up to 75 (very rarely this low)-150 (most often 100-120’ish) and I started suffering regular packet loss.
Not a big deal during normal pve stuffs but during raids I had a lot more d/c’s (as a main healer so not good), skill delay, freezes etc.
Now a raid is instanced only for your group, I don’t even want to try to imagine the effect in WvW if I had the same increase in latency here in GW2.

In terms of addiction what you are thinking about with MMOs is called a “process addiction”. This is the same type of addiction as compulsive gambling, and isn’t unique to just games; there are people who are addicted to things like shopping, eating, or even just basic internet use in a similar manner. In regards to money it is much less devastating to be addicted to something like an MMO, but potentially more demanding of one’s time which can take away from more productive pursuits.

The only really surefire way to deal with a process addiction is self-discipline, and if you feel you may be playing a game “too hard, and too much” then please force yourself away for a week or so and see what that does for you. It may not help if you just fall onto another video game (as it’s likely GW2 isn’t the focus of your addiction but gaming in general), or if you replace it with another (even if that other is suddenly your work), but it often helps to be able to step back and look around after a few days off.

Jedahs, dude… there are other alternatives (besides going to EU). You can also join SBI or JQ. Or consider what you could do if you went over to SoR… good grief, you might make the tipping point difference and propel them into Tier 1.

You and your guild are well respected and would be welcomed where ever you go… It’s probably time to seriously consider throwing your weight where you can advance a team instead of sustain a team.

Consider your troops… just doesn’t feel right to kick a sick puppy… does your server really want to win a pity fight?

Do your server a favor and get off the field!

Ben K.6238:

defrule.7236:

1. Latency advantage is largely nullified by time-zones. If servers were in America and I live in South Korea, American’s aren’t awake to take advantage of their better connection when I play. The people I will be competing against will also be connecting over the ocean so it’s a level field.

2. The system is already biased because people in the same country already do have an advantage over others. EU servers being located in Frankfurt means German players have an advantage over someone in the UK say. By this line of thought, why isn’t there a ladder for each country?

You should really be considering that the benefits of WvW merges could significantly outweigh the issue of latency. If the community is behind merges and willing to take a hit to their latency, then it should be given some thought to preserve longevity of WvW.

1. Wrong – there’s plenty of Americans up late. Probably about half my server’s presence during Oceanic primetime is still US-based. Thankfully the ping difference isn’t enough to be a serious problem.

2. Difference between 20ms and 120ms ping is insignificant in GW. The difference between 200ms and 400ms ping is not. London and Frankfurt are just down the road by comparison to Seoul and Dallas.

If you haven’t had to play on a European server with 400-500ms ping minimum, you have no idea what the “issue of latency” is. For the entire east Asian playerbase and most of eastern Europe, server population can not “outweigh” lag because the game is simply unplayable if they have to use different servers.

Of course plenty stay up late but a good chunk don’t. Timezones are smooth and overlap but they do stop everyone play together at the same time. It’s never going to be American/European/Australian/Asian primetime at exactly the same moment.

The thing is I don’t think ping even goes up to 200-400 if I were to connect to America. I still play LOTRO and all their servers are based in the US since they took their European business back. Being in the UK, obviously 400-500 ping doesn’t happen to me but LOTRO is stable around 120-150 ping these days and it’s definitely playable.

Correct me if I’m wrong but Asia don’t have their own servers? If we were to merge servers, they would still be playing on a server overseas no?

zortek.9607:

Jedahs, dude… there are other alternatives (besides going to EU). You can also join SBI or JQ. Or consider what you could do if you went over to SoR… good grief, you might make the tipping point difference and propel them into Tier 1.

You and your guild are well respected and would be welcomed where ever you go… It’s probably time to seriously consider throwing your weight where you can advance a team instead of sustain a team.

Consider your troops… just doesn’t feel right to kick a sick puppy… does your server really want to win a pity fight?

Do your server a favor and get off the field!

lol, sounds legit Mr. JQ man

I agree with op for what he is asking for but not the reasons why.

Mirror the two w3 servers and have 12 hours hosted in Europe and 12 hours in the US. If you play odd hours due to work etc, tough kitten put up with the ping Aussies always have to deal with.

Give everyone a forced 400ms latency. All advantages dissappear.

Hey, if australians can handle it, you can too!

This solution is actually extremely reasonable and the best one posted to date.
I hope Anet realizes this and implements it.

Ok let me tell you a real life scenerio which just happened

Friday Dec 14th 2012 – SOS vs SBI vs JQ

For me, it was 9pm. I had just gotten off work, had been in the office since 10am so exactly 11 hours.
I go have dinner with my gf for about 30 mins
I had a conference call organized at 11pm with overseas subsidiary office.
I was supposed to go have drinks with a friend for thier birthday later that night.

10:30pm, I recieve a Whatsapp message:
“Jedahs, we need you to lead in SOS BL, JQ is taking everything and have closed the gap from 15k lead to only 7k lead. If we do not fight back, we will actually lose by reset in 8 hours.”

So what do I do?
- Cancel mid night conference call with overseas office
- Cancel birthday drinks with friend
- Tell my gf: “sorry gotta go” “work problems???” “no, game problems” “…..”

I got home, we played and played and played. In the end, we won by a crazy small margin of 3,000 points. Very good effort though JQ, very good.

My top officer and commander played for 18 hours straight. 18 freaking hours!

I played from 11pm to 7am in the morning. Not to mention I had just spent about 11 hours at work. I only played for 8 hours but I had been up for 20 hours by the time I stopped playing.

You say “lol you could just not play”

If the online remaining players didn’t play all the way through Euro time, all the efforts for thousands of people that our server had put into the weekly matchup would have been wasted. That’s 144 hours of our time wasted if the few of us who had the ability to push on didn’t.

Now, my friend is not happy I didn’t show up for her party. I am not sure how the overseas office is doing because I had to postpone the meeting. My gf, well she is so used to it since GW2 came out I’m surprised she hasn’t dumped me. Hundreds of players are burnt out. My officers have taken the whole weekend off. Look at our opponent too, they’re completely burnt out because they didn’t sleep and pushed so hard, and they still lost which I am sure is very demoralizing. Seeing from this weekend, it seems like our opponent have given up as well.

Casual game? Where?

Jedahs.2713:

Ok let me tell you a real life scenerio which just happened

Friday Dec 14th 2012 – SOS vs SBI vs JQ

For me, it was 9pm. I had just gotten off work, had been in the office since 10am so exactly 11 hours.
I go have dinner with my gf for about 30 mins
I had a conference call organized at 11pm with overseas subsidiary office.
I was supposed to go have drinks with a friend for thier birthday later that night.

10:30pm, I recieve a Whatsapp message:
“Jedahs, we need you to lead in SOS BL, JQ is taking everything and have closed the gap from 15k lead to only 7k lead. If we do not fight back, we will actually lose by reset in 8 hours.”

So what do I do?
- Cancel mid night conference call with overseas office
- Cancel birthday drinks with friend
- Tell my gf: “sorry gotta go” “work problems???” “no, game problems” “…..”

I got home, we played and played and played. In the end, we won by a crazy small margin of 3,000 points. Very good effort though JQ, very good.

My top officer and commander played for 18 hours straight. 18 freaking hours!

I played from 11pm to 7am in the morning. Not to mention I had just spent about 11 hours at work. I only played for 8 hours but I had been up for 20 hours by the time I stopped playing.

You say “lol you could just not play”

If the online remaining players didn’t play all the way through Euro time, all the efforts for thousands of people that our server had put into the weekly matchup would have been wasted. That’s 144 hours of our time wasted if the few of us who had the ability to push on didn’t.

Now, my friend is not happy I didn’t show up for her party. I am not sure how the overseas office is doing because I had to postpone the meeting. My gf, well she is so used to it since GW2 came out I’m surprised she hasn’t dumped me. Hundreds of players are burnt out. My officers have taken the whole weekend off. Look at our opponent too, they’re completely burnt out because they didn’t sleep and pushed so hard, and they still lost which I am sure is very demoralizing. Seeing from this weekend, it seems like our opponent have given up as well.

Casual game? Where?

So what did you win for putting this much work in? Was it really worth it?

Aytrix.4059:

So what did you win for putting this much work in? Was it really worth it?

I know right? It was completely NOT worth it. Thanks for agreeing.

Anet, please help to fix this problem. Your game went from an awesome fun game to a life draining game that’s totally NOT worth it.

Jedahs.2713:

Aytrix.4059:

So what did you win for putting this much work in? Was it really worth it?

I know right? It was completely NOT worth it. Thanks for agreeing.

Anet, please help to fix this problem. Your game went from an awesome fun game to a life draining game that’s totally NOT worth it.

Well my point is that whether you put that much time into the game or you put the game 2nd to real life, either way you will achieve the same outcome…. nothing. Try not worrying so much about the score, which means nothing. You might find the game much more enjoyable then.

How about anet bans you for your own good. Tough love.

Even if they do ban me for tough love, I will still need to make another account and keep playing. You don’t understand guys. I’m not playing because I love the game so much, though I do, its because I owe it to the community. But the whole community is suffering from this 24?7 requirement to the game. I am speaking out

I think you really need to straighten your priorities out.

I do agree on the general topic to merge the servers into one pool, but for other reasons than you bring up.

Its really not the game that makes you or anyone spend 18 hours a day on it, its all yourself. All I can really do is second the other comments.

I’m a guildleader myself and because i cant and dont want to get dragged to much into the game and neglect RL-responsibilities, i decided to have a small scale guild, I have officers that will take care of stuff while i’m gone, thats how its working, thats how a good leader has to be.

Jedahs, you might be a good commander, a good guy, but with taking all this stuff on your own shoulders, you fail at leading. You really should try this the next time your whatsapp pops.

You dont owe anything to the community, from what i’ve been reading from you, this community owes YOU a free evenign for nice dinner with your gf.

If your server is not able to compensate you being away for RL business, which always should come first, your server simply does not deserve to “win” anything.

just merge the rankings and make them global,not EU rankings and NA rankings

Jedah take a week off the server will be ok with out you, your guild will be ok without you, GW2 will be ok without you.

Likely the winning and losing mean more to you than 99 percent of all the people who play, this is not a good thing to be in the 1 percent you are in.

Log on tonight and pass leadership of your guild to someone else, transfer your character to a Tier 8 server, this will make you take some time off you can always come back in a week.

I have been down this road you are on, it is not a good road.

Sorry was gonna post my feelings on Merging the servers, it would be a great thing for NA, not so sure about EU.

But since I’m from the USA merge them babies.

Signed. Since most night-cappers aren’t residing where their servers are based anyway.

Just to toss out the easy way to fix this, move to a top EU server, you will only need to cover six or so hours a day.

They have Ques in our off times.

The game is as casual or hardcore as you personally choose to make it.

No one is going to lose their job or their lover because their server didn’t “win” WvW, but it sounds like you are in danger of losing yours if you put the WvW winning first in life.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to help.

Not to be rude or anything but this sounds like more of a personal issue than a game related issue. While the game does have some concerning issues with nightcapping when some servers have a strong nightcrew when others have none, it’s not worth the effort you put in.

However the game was advertised as casual, because it welcomes casual players. Although the game can be played in a hardcore manner, I from time to time go from casual to hardcore back and forth depending on the needs of my personal life. But never will guild wars or anygame takeover this much.

The game isn’t rewarding enough to lose hours of sleep, risk damaging your relationship with you girlfriend, and risk making your friends mad because you bailed on birthday drinks for a video game. How you have a girlfriend with this hectic gaming schedule i don’t know. If i played like this i’d end up divorced.

I’m sure you can place responsibility of a night crew to one of your guildies, just ask around in your own guild, do some tryouts, Or simply take the game alot less seriously. Family and friends come first, not guild wars 2. I’ve seen your guild in action they do very well, i think can manage a few less hours without you.

I apologize if i came across rude in anyway, just trying to give some insight is all.

I’m a European Commander from the Far Shiverpeaks who moved to its USA sister server Northern Shiverpeaks at the start of the game.

I think this is a brilliant idea and it should be implemented immediately.
I am currently night crew and agree with the degrading health issue.

This is becoming like a secondary job.

You Americans can say what you like, I’ve spoken to my friends and they love the idea.
Europe says yes.
America says yes.

Y U NO SAY YES ANET

(Anyone who cannot see this issue is clearly not part of their servers leadership community)

Seren.6850:

Server physical locations is an issue, do you propose screwing over America or Europe for latency (I’m an Aussie I’m used to bad ping, but maybe others aren’t)

I get mine from across the Atlantic and through the terrible copper telephone wires in Ireland.
I have no trouble.

Proof that server location in this day and age is of little issue.

Have no quams about this at all, one big pool of servers to come up against, our EU players also say they have no probs in WvW playing on US servers. Besides as some one mentioned earlier it’s not as if they aren’t already making people play with a higher latency than others.

Heh, OP has a point somewhat. I can relate because I remember VoTF went to IoJ to play on an NA server, and at the time from when we arrived, to when we left, we were the only EU guild on the server. This meant that we had to pretty much force every guildie to play for 8h every single day during EU pt to compete with the other t1 or t2 NA servers. The result of this was total burnout and we were exhausted, our leader didnt have the time to commit those kind of hours, and nor did I, so we moved back to EU.

Now we simply play a few hours every day or every other day depending on when we feel like doing what, and the game is a lot more enjoyable. In fact when taking this approach our activity sky rocketed back again and the guild is incredibly active.

So I can understand the premise of an underlying obligation to fill a void that server needs you to fill. And I can also appreciate the burnout that comes with providing such a surface.

The problem is that the only solution, is to simply stop caring. Its not feasible to treat this as “war” and play for “Score”. These things are meaningless, perhaps on launch it worked when all the servers had super long ques, but its not feasible to be 1 guild covering hours at a time against your will.

In any case, Anet will not be merging servers, that much is clear. But it may be possible for us WvWers to take an initiative to consolidate on a few servers in 1 continent. You say you are willing to sacrifice latency for a good play experience, and you say that you speak for the community? Prove it. Transfer a bulk of guilds from NA to EU and disperse amongst some servers and create yourself the very thing you are asking Arenanet to create.

You have the option to do it if you want. At this point its “what about my community” but there wont be much of a community if you quit anyways will there?

Just my 2 cents anyways, as someone who was in the position of the OP, and managed to sort it out and is now enjoying the game a ton.

As a compassionate player, I hope you find your bottom quickly and with a minimum of havoc to your life and to those around you. I hope you seek help or that held finds you. I hope that your spiritual bankruptcy comes to an end and you connect with your higher power to fill that void in your life that you can’t seem to otherwise satisfy.

As a strategic competitor, I hope you continue on the path you are on! And know that your two opponents can can keep you stressed forever. This is Tier 1 and you are in the number one position. It doesn’t really matter who is 2nd or 3rd…really!

You haven’t figured it out yet! You do not control the pace — your opposition does. Get used to it… this is how it is going to be… every week.

Welcome to reality!

“spiritual bankruptcy”
“welcome to reality”
“cognitive dissonance”

Start with merging the bottom servers so wvw actually remains active in all tiers.

I have a new view on this. In order to make WvW work again, we should simply move all WvW guilds to the top 6 servers.

That way, there would actually be people playing. Even in tier 1, at least 2 boarderlands is constantly empty.

Let’s not. It’s fine the way it is. Many people aren’t in a solely ‘wvw’ guild, and mix their wvw with some pve/dungeons/whatever. How would you determine which guilds to move over? Only those who ONLY wvw? The rest, eh, who cares? I wouldn’t say that the other two borderlands are empty. They may not have a 50 man zerg on them at all times, but who the heck wants that?

Look, I know you’re probably freaked out because of t1 this week, and it’s sad that this will only reinforce this unhealthy thinking, but moving everyone to 6 servers because your server is down a week is a bit extreme.

I haven’t had any serious issues with playing on NA while being in Europe. I can only remember 1 night where I had spike issues for a couple hours.

Considering how WvW works it should have never been split between NA/EU.

If there was no split, the germans and french would complain to no ends… Just look at Eu tier 1.

I think merging EU/US populations is a good idea and would remove the problems with “nightcapping”, but Jedahs, I’m concerned for you health.

Please, try to take a step back: this is a game and in games you sometime lose (I know it sucks! I hate it too) and the community can’t (and shouldn’t) hold YOU or your officers responsible for it.

My only question, and I’ll admit I did not read the entire thread, how would you handle reset ?

Menaka.5092:

I think merging EU/US populations is a good idea and would remove the problems with “nightcapping”, but Jedahs, I’m concerned for you health.

Please, try to take a step back: this is a game and in games you sometime lose (I know it sucks! I hate it too) and the community can’t (and shouldn’t) hold YOU or your officers responsible for it.

Thanks for your concern. I haven’t played for like 2 weeks now Only reading the forums here and there.

Merging the servers does not solve the issues discussed in this thread, and brings its own set of problems.

For one, it will not stop people from playing too much! Adding more coverage doesn’t negate the ability to push. There are stronger guilds, stronger alliances, stronger players. The desire to come to the rescue when you find your server getting knocked back on its heels won’t go away just because there are a few more people around to help.

Second, if it’s not the lack of people, then surely it will be too many people, and the queue is what prevented you from stopping the comeback! The only way to really be sure no one “night caps” you is to make sure you have a queue on all maps 24/7. But what happens when you’re losing your Garrison, but your guild can’t get in because the map is full? Does ANet have magic to make sure all maps are at 100% population, but never over?

Jedahs you should open up a referendum in this forum just to see how many peope support the idea and how many don’t

Spartyr.6795:

Merging the servers does not solve the issues discussed in this thread, and brings its own set of problems.

For one, it will not stop people from playing too much! Adding more coverage doesn’t negate the ability to push. There are stronger guilds, stronger alliances, stronger players. The desire to come to the rescue when you find your server getting knocked back on its heels won’t go away just because there are a few more people around to help.

Second, if it’s not the lack of people, then surely it will be too many people, and the queue is what prevented you from stopping the comeback! The only way to really be sure no one “night caps” you is to make sure you have a queue on all maps 24/7. But what happens when you’re losing your Garrison, but your guild can’t get in because the map is full? Does ANet have magic to make sure all maps are at 100% population, but never over?

At the moment its just all empty boarderlands. I’m talking about the situation with tier 1 for the past 5 weeks

In GvG in GW1 NA versed EU almost daily and there wasn’t an issue. And that format you had 3/4 second reaction times or less to get off your interrupts and it was commonplace.
Don’t see any reason why WvW wouldn’t be a combined world server event.

Jedahs.2713:

I have a new view on this. In order to make WvW work again, we should simply move all WvW guilds to the top 6 servers.

That way, there would actually be people playing. Even in tier 1, at least 2 boarderlands is constantly empty.

There are brainstorm ideas. And then there are Bad™ ideas.

No. Just no.

There is so much to this suggestion that is myopic, arrogant, discriminatory, and just plain obnoxious. There is nothing that isn’t manipulative, self-serving, or abusive if this were to be put into motion.

Jedahs.2713:

At the moment its just all empty boarderlands. I’m talking about the situation with tier 1 for the past 5 weeks

And SoS just happens to have won 1st for the past 5 weeks. Coincidence? Or myth?

I think you are practicing revisionist history. Which is a diplomatic term…

Genev.2450:

So, did you skip Christmas dinner? Played through midnight new year?

Just curious…

No as he has clearly states he hasn’t played Gw2 WvW in 2 weeks, in the past month i believe i have played much more then he has, i will also tell you i am a very casual gamer.

Ahhh, I missed that one, fair enough, deleted the post.

Wouldn’t have surprised me if he had, though, considering previous posts.