Guild Wars 2

Grim West.3194:

Lol, you proved nothing except that you have never played anywhere except on a zerg server. When has a low pop server (or even medium pop) EVER won T1?

Come on.. it must have happened at least once to prove that your links matter… just once…..

Game, Set, Match.

Stacking wins, that is all.

You can try to reframe your argument however you like, but those links definitively showed that you were wrong. It looks like you did not realize that those numbers were available, and tried to bluster your way through an argument here.

Better luck next time, I guess.

Ok…. BlobGate is all about skill. Being stacked with the highest amount of WvW players in all time zones… has NOTHING to do with anything at all in WvW. And before BlobGate had the numbers and was in lower tiers it was because everyone on the server was asleep for those months. And when BlobGate stacked the server and started winning, it was ALL JUST A COINCIDENCE.

/rolls eyes

Are you a ANET dev? It sure sounds like it.

Johje Holan.4607:

We need another tournament so BG can get 2v1’d again. The only way to deal with a stacked server is to 2v1 it. But the only incentive to do that is in a tournament.

What you need is some Star Wars RP.

Ven Zehn.6573:

Pretty sure everyone complained about JQ having the biggest population for a while, long long ago. Every server has the potential to pull those numbers into WvW (key word “potential”), but if their communities don’t care for WvW, and they don’t have guilds/players that promote WvW on their servers, then yea, it won’t be likely for the servers to get the same numbers showing consistently.

Do you think, maybe, just maybe, the people in Blackgate WvW because they like it, and those who join the server, do so because they see it as something they want? People were transferring to Blackgate even when we were getting 3rd place, even when we dropped to t2 randomly, and even after we got 3rd place in season 2 (and yes, I’m sure some came due to the war council, but I don’t think any of those guilds stayed long, could be wrong, but who knows, I’m just another random player).

How bout trying to create a welcoming and happy place in your own servers, where people would want to join you.

Maybe a real life example could help: Company A smiles at all their employees, gives them donuts, and asks them about their lives, Company B asks that you put in overtime without extra pay, and doesn’t even know you just got married. Which company would you want to work for, which would you want to stay with?

This isn’t something Anet can fix alone, this is something that each community has to do themselves.

OMG, the BG PR is real.

All that is required is a hard population cap. This isn’t a community problem, its a design problem. Leaving a “loophole” that players can use to troll entire servers isn’t a community problem. Everyone complains about Mal’s alliance moving around and wrecking servers but Anet does nothing to restrict the behavior. This is the internet … saying “stop that!” doesn’t work. You restrict unwanted behavior with game mechanics.

And BG “hibernating” while recruiting guilds doesn’t happen? Why was I giving Visual gold then during that low activity period?

BG is gaming Anet’s “activity based” population metric and everyone knows it. The smug PR isn’t fooling anyone.

Grim West.3194:

Lol. Really? You actually think that KDR matters when you have overwhelming numbers?

In fact with overwhelming numbers the KDR should be high.

T1 IMO shows that server population isn’t the only factor that matters. Yak’s Bend in particular I keep seeing zergs die repeatedly to equal or lesser numbers of BG players. Those extra lootbags are also points on weekly score. BG also managed to keep T1 and often get 2nd place when the server was definitely outnumbered.

Server organization and overall style/community counts for a great deal in terms of ranking and this isn’t something Anet can fix.

I transfered back to YB from BG when the servers weren’t locked and now I’m labeled a spy for BG Nevertheless, my observations of both these servers during SEA/EU times:

BG has a larger WvW population (but not by a huge amount like ppl seem to think) BG has many fight commanders that are fun to follow, which is why they have the numbers. They also use voice comms. and commanders are very vocal.

YB has a WvW population but only when DK or Chris are around. DK is a great defender but yellow when it comes to open field fights and rages on comms when things don’t go his way (which is quite unhealthy when trying to keep or recruit SEA/EU players). Chris is an awesome fight commander with lots of creativity, helps people with builds (explaining on comms in detail about them) and is encouraging even in defeat. Chris will often get a map que aswell so the population is there.

Serith.3712:

Server organization and overall style/community counts for a great deal in terms of ranking and this isn’t something Anet can fix.

Basicly, I totally agree with this. The play style of DK and Chris complement each other and if both are online the server holds its own.YB needs a few more fight commanders and they will challenge BG once more. (as long as BG doesn’t have their finger in another servers pie)

Back when I played I witnessed BG (well known guilds) getting hard wiped and constantly one pushed all the time. That’s when they would begin to hump siege or map hop in order to PvD dead maps.

I think it was an excellent strategy to pick off one BG zergling as it would force their entire zerg back to spawn or else they’d risk having somebody on their server run solo until they randevu with the blob zerg. They would all willingly port back to hold hands and counsel their fallen. Lol The trick is to lure them out when they think they have 3:1 numbers, but even then they hesitate…

As for managing to stay in T1, you can thank the massive glicko wall that kept BG/JQ from falling. Instead they remained by default.

Grim West.3194:

Ok…. BlobGate is all about skill. Being stacked with the highest amount of WvW players in all time zones… has NOTHING to do with anything at all in WvW. And before BlobGate had the numbers and was in lower tiers it was because everyone on the server was asleep for those months. And when BlobGate stacked the server and started winning, it was ALL JUST A COINCIDENCE.

/rolls eyes

Are you a ANET dev? It sure sounds like it.

Those stats don’t lie dude. You are just angry at the messenger.

BAITness.1083:

Grim West.3194:

Ok…. BlobGate is all about skill. Being stacked with the highest amount of WvW players in all time zones… has NOTHING to do with anything at all in WvW. And before BlobGate had the numbers and was in lower tiers it was because everyone on the server was asleep for those months. And when BlobGate stacked the server and started winning, it was ALL JUST A COINCIDENCE.

/rolls eyes

Are you a ANET dev? It sure sounds like it.

Those stats don’t lie dude. You are just angry at the messenger.

Clearly you have never heard of the three types of lies.

[This thread has run its course, thank you for the discussion, it is now closed.]