Guild Wars 2

Yaks has got some kittens!

How is CD losing this match?

Could this be the end of zergs?

- Reflects own omegas. So abilities like feed back are really useful. If you have enough Mesmers casting feedback on that omega stack it’ll at the very least slow them down, maybe even destroy them. I used it before on a large 12 omega rush one time. Worked wonders and we held them off till help arrived because of it.

Liu.4751:

Well that’s hope you learn some integrity as you play ingame because your sever is showing lack of it. Yeah I am calling out the sever im not going to sit behind a wall just to get out of my way from naming the sever its a video game we’re here to relax and play with integrity and fairness, and yeah I’m mad and like a yaks bend player ironically said to be once when they lost to us " its only a game man"

Speaking of irony…I find it ironic how you say its a video game and we’re here to relax and play with integrity, and to quote someone else saying “it’s only a game man”, yet you admit to being mad and calling out a server. How is that relaxing? Or how does that show integrity? And if you believe “it’s only a game man”, why start this thread in the first place.

And don’t label a whole server because of how some people may act from it. Some people just have bad days too. I have some examples of CD players grouping/chatting with our players and not to ask how they were doing either. That doesn’t mean the entire CD server is full of bad people.

This really did make me laugh.

Yes I am from Yak’s Bend, OMG yes we have done a couple of golem rushes but believe me they are the minority of what we do. Today we even got so bored of wiping your zergs we got naked and still wiped out your “zerg” while naked.

I don’t know how many times we have had 15-20 players (no golems) and come across a 40-50 man Zerg in open field only to see the 40-50 enemies all turn round and run away to plant AC and balistas and you know why they do that? because our 15-20 will easily wipe out your 40 in open field, it’s called skill

Lol, so much for saying it’s not a QQ thread. Entirely false.

And siege is in the game to be used. You want a whole server to be banned for using it? Why don’t you just stop playing wvw, cus many servers use golem rushes to their benefits. I say you, sir should consider banning yourself for not knowing how to properly use your siege. It takes a lot of organization to put together a massive golem rush with ports lol.

Also there are counters. It’s been done, siege. Man your siege. Scout. Learn to play the game before you insult other servers by condemning them with the ban hammer.

If you state that you play this for fun then live with the consequences of “being outmanned”, of lacking coverage, every server goes through that at some point or another. We’re all having fun so stop being such a sore loser.

Now I don’t often do forum posts but when I do it’s wvw related. I’m not Qqing or any of that online mumbo jumbo but fact is veteran quaggan shaman guards ruin the game. Shamans are near enough impossible to do anything against at current state. I’m gonna name the sever. Crystal desert in my opinion one of the most quaggan dense servers say as we put it ;p they’ve constantly kept the nodes red on CDBL 24/7 and cracking those keeps with those shamans is just too difficult. I hope Devon sees this and bans Crystal Desert from wvw because I’d rather not see their quaggans again because that’s all it is tbh lol. Some people innocently really try hard for our sever and same for others, but it’s a real shame severs like Crystal deserts have to resort to pearl sinking into quaggan investments for easy points. Tbh is kind of disgraceful I had more fun getting steamrolled by a tier 2/3 sever with their hyleks and their skritt. I have respect for crystal desert commanders for being skilled at capping quaggan nodes but if its all you do your gonna be good. PS: We just golem rushed CDBL, there were more quaggans then CD. There’s a difference in being OP and the other team’s defense being nonexistant.

Kronyx.2570:

Now I don’t often do forum posts but when I do it’s wvw related. I’m not Qqing or any of that online mumbo jumbo but fact is veteran quaggan shaman guards ruin the game. Omega golems are near enough impossible to do anything at current state. I’m gonna name the sever. Crystal desert in my opinion one of the most quaggan dense servers say as we put it ;p they’ve constantly kept the nodes red on CDBL 24/7 and cracking those keeps with those shamans is just too difficult. I hope Devon sees this and bans Crystal Desert from wvw because I’d rather not see their quaggans again because that’s all it is tbh lol. Some people innocently really try hard for our sever and same for others, but it’s a real shame severs like Crystal deserts have to resort to pearl sinking into quaggan investments for easy points. Tbh is kind of disgraceful I had more fun getting steamrolled by a tier 2/3 sever with their hyleks and their skritt. I have respect for crystal desert commanders for being skilled at capping quaggan nodes but if its all you do your gonna be good. PS: We just golem rushed CDBL, there were more quaggans then CD. There’s a difference in being OP and the other team’s defense being nonexistant.

THIS POST IS FULL OF WIN!

One could assume if your being efficient means you want to quickest and maybe easiest way to win. I.e you lack integrity for admitting to that. Rather than posting other mumbo jumbo about qqing , people being self centred, quaggans and other mechanics lol.

And like the invasion events in the living story update people zerged those champs because it was fast Damge Per second, and relatively easy to stay alive/tag enemies and get your rewards. that’s why you have 30/40 man golem rushing zero player keeps/castles every time you see one red or sometimes the green keeps. it’s kittened on so to speak and you can’t deny that Players don’t rush to be part of something if it has a higher if not a guaranteed rate of succeeding of what you aiming to achieve for.

I about Yaks bend has become a Highclass/numbers/rallied sever just now because when CD beat both kaineng/yaks bend 2 weeks straight forward you probably guessed, it was the time when golems we’re 500 badges of honour and cost things what take time/skill/tactics to receive other than using Gold what can be farmed easy with the new content updates over the past few weeks haha.

I explained why you have the numbers and we don’t defend to do it and even Bjchase I believe in this thread here told it how it is for him anyway.
He said and I do quote “After reading this I am excited to jump back into some WvW for the night” i.e we all know he wants to ease of free karma by steamrolling with them omegas. Because you know now he wants that real easy stuff rather than any strategy evolved what takes time, too much time… So much of it in fact haha.

Now I could be wrong and I would admit that for my ignorance but if we won this matchup 2 weeks in a row without the sellable siege weapons(alpha/omega golems) and you have it now you are winning. One could fairly assume that. Plus I have witnessed every non feint attack By Yaks bend has been in a form of distraction by siege grazer or keep tapping follow by a Full on omega(6-7)25+ players at least. Golem zerg to water gate of our garrisons numerous times. Everyday, I even counted the time between 3 golem attacks and it was roughly just over the hour before it was welcomly repeated.

Now i also heard in this thread that why isn’t kaineng qqing because I’ve been checking and their BL either gets wiped by us or Once or twice by Yaks(sorry kaineng, numbers win this think ;p) So it rarely gets targeted and all the 50g worth of any siege golems is sitting behind yaks Border waypoint ;p.

I’ve only seen one reply to this thread with the wisdom of not making more drama and rationally explain their opinion and viewpoint and alas he’s right, and that was the player Moon.6317 I believe earlier in the thread.
So unless you want to state your opinion on Golem rushes, i.e you like them or don’t or they should be restricted to badges of honour again I’m not sure. But the Posts from Yaks bends players seem to be emotional reactions to my original thread post rather then taking any time to re evaluate what they feel about omega siege rushing being done to them would be a good place to start. Omega siege golems being spam and stacked to garner easy Exp/point by turning Tier 3 towers/defend or undefended, with siege or none of it ;D to rubble in mere minutes.
Now you say we need numbers we sure do but as I said earlier we’re not used to golem rushes from you due to you never using them like this during our 2week runnings back a 2 to 3 months ago. And two other match ups over the best month we’re u came 2nd one week and 3rd the later one. Now you could say we need to organise and adapt and we do, and say we have to run to defend our stuff but is that really a fair measure to imply to have to succeed against a tactic what takes 5 minutes or less to literally flip a full upgraded tier 3 keep let alone a tower? haha.
I could go into why players shouldn’t have to rush to succeed and rather if you want me to haha but I’ll leave it at this for now because no one wants to have to rush to a keep and drop everything just to stop something anet should of made only Accessible using Badges of honour. It’s stressful if your dedicated to winning lool

To the idea of using badges of honour for omega siege golems it does suit it more than just gold. Omegas are seen as the holy grail of siege, high powerful/ Highly mobile now a team can use them as a powerful force and them players who have fought hard for their worlds and accumulated much Honour in badge form can finally help their sever obtain mega siege capable of brining down any structure with relative ease. IT should be a long term mega goal. ;D rant over, but that was more a vision I have on how people should use omega siege golems in WvW and their motives behind them lool.

I love the exaggeration on the number of golems used to take paper keeps. Not once on the past week have I seem more than five golems used. And if it’s true that YB has “30/40” golems on your BL, that again points to the lack of homeland defense or concern on CD, if they can cap and keep capping camp and building golems with zero resistance, the failure is on CDs end.

Jeez can we get the Cliff’s Notes on the above post?

I love how people are still so defensive about how their server plays. This game is as brain dead and grindy as all the other MMOs now…the server with the most door bangers on at more hours is always going to win. The more you try to analyze it, the dumber it sounds.

Eye Mohini.7938:

I love the exaggeration on the number of golems used to take paper keeps. Not once on the past week have I seem more than five golems used. And if it’s true that YB has “30/40” golems on your BL, that again points to the lack of homeland defense or concern on CD, if they can cap and keep capping camp and building golems with zero resistance, the failure is on CDs end.

I didn’t say 30/40 of golems I said 30/40 players. Where did you think that. Plus yes it was tier 3 and it’s 5/6/7 maybe 8 golems normally either 4 alp’s 1 omega or if its tier 3 it’s mostly likely 2/3 up to 5/6 even 7 Omegas, i’ve seen the variations.

zen.6091:

Jeez can we get the Cliff’s Notes on the above post?

I love how people are still so defensive about how their server plays. This game is as brain dead and grindy as all the other MMOs now…the server with the most door bangers on at more hours is always going to win. The more you try to analyze it, the dumber it sounds.

If you want to avoid reading any intelligent discussion on it please refrain from using non intelligent posts to reply for it. Plus I don’t think that’s very zen…… of you ;d

You call out a specific server in a thread, and expect them not to address you. Classic.

Hi Liu!

As enthusiastic, and flattered, to hear our server called out on the official WvW discussion and as much as I would like my comrades and friends take their jabs at you for calling us out since that was ulterior intent of your opening post, I feel like perhaps you should be given our angle on how and why Golem Rushes are a touch more balanced than you think.

Oil, Mortars, Cannons and Ballistas.

Even a massive amount of Arrow Carts will cut down Alpha Golems rather easily, golems although mobile are NOT an endgame but another means of capturing a keep. They also require a bit of coordination to pull off, between pre-emptive scouting to make out the correct weakpoint over a gate with over 20 ACs, and having the drivers stick together or even spread out to mitigate siege fire.

Hands down the most overpowered thing after Golems is Arrow Carts, which will break into the masses so hard without golems to act as sponges it is not even funny. The unfortunate thing is that although you might not believe it, the times before golems were built from undynamic trebbing and sieging up points if the aggressor had to take out a fully upgraded objective. Counter trebbing made taking objectives even harder, and the defenders were HEAVILY favored over even the most unbelievable odds.

Golems took it to a new level for aggressors, helping them with the gap. But at the same time added another depth of strategy. The infamous golem rushes as you so call them may have a bad name but with enough creativity and well-placed counter siege, Yak’s Bend has seen their golems fall to such tactics, and even used some of their on-the-spot plans to fell golem rushes as large as 40+. Yes, it does get up to that point, but if you can plant ballistas near the choke with some AC cover suppor- oh, I have said too much.

Anyways, as opposed to complaining on the forums I would highly suggest reflecting on what coverage your server has and how to set up procedures on dealing with such rushes. I would practice having map calls for rushes, setting up contested WP calls, find spots where the golems are most likely to get choked at and set up siege on the ground to deal with them. I hear Spread-Shot is amazing.

Let me just say again, so flattered you called us out here, over the many other servers who can use this tactic. If you wish to make a point about WvW, next time make a hypothetical without the use of names, or else you are just intentionally goarding us to commenting.

Keep classy.

- Jornosh, Suicidal Warrior of [One], still endlessly raging in SAB.

Not a ton to say that hasn’t already been said. CD is the only server I know of that leaves their entire borderlands unscouted and even if there is a scout to have no response whatsoever. If a golem rush or any zerg can roll into your borderland and cap the entire map or even just the 3 keeps and your server can’t get a response there by the time they are hitting the third keep you have an issue. Especially when it happens while you have a massive zerg on EBG.

Sykper.6583:

Hi Liu!

As enthusiastic, and flattered, to hear our server called out on the official WvW discussion and as much as I would like my comrades and friends take their jabs at you for calling us out since that was ulterior intent of your opening post, I feel like perhaps you should be given our angle on how and why Golem Rushes are a touch more balanced than you think.

Oil, Mortars, Cannons and Ballistas.

Even a massive amount of Arrow Carts will cut down Alpha Golems rather easily, golems although mobile are NOT an endgame but another means of capturing a keep. They also require a bit of coordination to pull off, between pre-emptive scouting to make out the correct weakpoint over a gate with over 20 ACs, and having the drivers stick together or even spread out to mitigate siege fire.

Hands down the most overpowered thing after Golems is Arrow Carts, which will break into the masses so hard without golems to act as sponges it is not even funny. The unfortunate thing is that although you might not believe it, the times before golems were built from undynamic trebbing and sieging up points if the aggressor had to take out a fully upgraded objective. Counter trebbing made taking objectives even harder, and the defenders were HEAVILY favored over even the most unbelievable odds.

Golems took it to a new level for aggressors, helping them with the gap. But at the same time added another depth of strategy. The infamous golem rushes as you so call them may have a bad name but with enough creativity and well-placed counter siege, Yak’s Bend has seen their golems fall to such tactics, and even used some of their on-the-spot plans to fell golem rushes as large as 40+. Yes, it does get up to that point, but if you can plant ballistas near the choke with some AC cover suppor- oh, I have said too much.

Anyways, as opposed to complaining on the forums I would highly suggest reflecting on what coverage your server has and how to set up procedures on dealing with such rushes. I would practice having map calls for rushes, setting up contested WP calls, find spots where the golems are most likely to get choked at and set up siege on the ground to deal with them. I hear Spread-Shot is amazing.

Let me just say again, so flattered you called us out here, over the many other servers who can use this tactic. If you wish to make a point about WvW, next time make a hypothetical without the use of names, or else you are just intentionally goarding us to commenting.

Keep classy.

- Jornosh, Suicidal Warrior of [One], still endlessly raging in SAB.

I fail to see any honest discussion on why you or your Yaks bend repliers in this thread use this tactic. I see non mention about stopping any omega you only mentions alphas what we know can be handled which I’ve seen you use 7/8 maybe 9 times varying in numbers between 2-7/8 and I’ve only seen you use alphas once and that time you got spotted. Now I don’t know what your Plan is t stop 7/8 omegas with a 30man fair-weather Zerg or nor have you given me your opinion on them yet again I think you lack integrity to say why you do it truthfully because we all know your likely to disagree if your hard work in your BLS got steamrolled by 7/8/9 omegas with fair weathers on the hour every hour since reset.
I’m sorry but you and your commander (rena) has dodged the questions Since I altered my course in my replies. Think you know you have not single valid point to make and your simply abusing a altered system what anet changed because your mad when you admit you played for second against us and maguma and we beat you by 1k a few hours before the reset went down. I remember then yet again " it’s only a game man’ I got told be a wise sage on the sever you play on ;p

Why should our sever practice WP call for severs who abuse what anet has done allowing unlimited access to Omega siege via just pure gold instead of badges of honour like they should be.
Undefended Bl is a person to person issue I did my job and my hardest to rally and get people to hold down but anet makes a farmer game even in wvw lol

quickflash.6314:

NevirSayDie.6235:

I started reading this thread because I was curious to see what people’s opinions were on golem rush balance, but I lost hope in the human race before getting through very many responses.

1. 25 omega golem rushes have been successfully defended against. We have and if you decided to sit down and figure out you could too.

2. Every time a CD keep is burned to the ground a yak gets its wing. Its not our fault we are trying to be efficient.

I’m not even in this matchup. As I said, I was only curious. My cpu doesn’t do well in zergs so I spend most of my time roaming…I certainly don’t care about defending against 25 omega golems. I’m sorry for interrupting the bickering, carry on.

How to defend vs golem rushes

Well the fact that yet again you have no justification for doing it and yet Link me a youtube video on what We SHOUld be doing rather than a why and any honesty to your motives Proves the integrity of you and your sever as a whole btw. It’s a pretty disgraceful those golem could of had terrible lag/ or new players and we’re underwhelmed. Your lack of integrity has been noted. Don’t bother commanding anymore I’m sure your sever would be better off without you.

Your sense of humour seems to have been damaged when your ego was bruised. Please fix both.

Lol, constantly yakkers have been telling you it’s defendable, but you refuse to think and keep trying to call us out on “integrity”. What does integrity have to do with this topic anyway? Are we hacking in any way? Are we shamming ppl?

Let me ask you this then, you buy a game. What is the point of it? To have some fun. Yes? So if we like to have fun by means of rolling your entirely defenseless (yes defenseless) bl with a few to maybe a ton of alphas and or omegas mixed in, what is the problem in that? Why don’t you get off your high horse and have some fun as well.

You could easily do the same to us. Build some golems, get 10-20 omegas rolling through our bls. But let me tell you this. If there are players on the map, they will map call it out, to commanders, to la, to friends lists. We have been relentlessly working at doing all the things you’ve previously said to be worthless aka upgrading keeps.

Which your server seems to lack I find is a good response time. Multiple times I’ve been caught building a golem at your camps lol. Except when going through with the rush it was still as undefended as if no one had a clue of the impending roll.

I don’t know why you aren’t actually beating us in this matchup lol as you keep saying that we had to play for second. If you don’t know the internal workings of someone else’s servers I suggest you not be so quick to judge. On the other hand maybe you guys have a bunch of school kids that need to be back to school :P reflect on that and the new pve content that may have zapped your numbers.

Again, it IS just a game. We’re all here to have fun I should hope. And if you want to fight bring it on in game. Hop off this thread and face is in the battlefield and not in QQ posts, call outs, and insulting an entire server without expecting any of us not to reply to such an outrageous post. That is it lol, I won’t waste any more of my time responding to such a childish post as amused as I am about it. See you in the matchup.

Lord I hope we use 50 Omegas today on CDBL

Yet again you’ve all dodged the question on why you do it, and yet I’ve made very valid points and contradicted why your doing it at this point, and yes the word appears again you lack integrity to be honest and share your opinions about Omega golem rushing. instead you defend it with words like efficiently, it’s a game, etc. twisting and turning the truth of it.
Every single one of you has dodged the core reason as to why you do them. I could help you out but that’s your job not mine as I’ve done the work already my friends. try imaging if your Bl was specifically targeted with 7 man omega 30+ zerg constantly on the hour and yes OMegas not alphas. I have no respect for it on my sever let alone others. It’s a lame tactic lol. What should never of been made easier by taking out badges of honour it Ruined the balance of it.
If it is just a game your spending a large about of time and effort in building/maintaining your reasons and your actually siege you’re using. Think about it guys You know why your doing it but your no courage to mention it ;d.
Peace

Liu.4751:

Well the fact that yet again you have no justification for doing it and yet Link me a youtube video on what We SHOUld be doing rather than a why and any honesty to your motives Proves the integrity of you and your sever as a whole btw. It’s a pretty disgraceful those golem could of had terrible lag/ or new players and we’re underwhelmed. Your lack of integrity has been noted. Don’t bother commanding anymore I’m sure your sever would be better off without you.

1. Based on this one statement we call can see what you really intended.

2. Yaksbend is the Evil Empire.

3. We are here to win.

4. This is not middle school. Trophies are not given out for participation.

5. Your arguments make no sense.

6. Try not being bad. Might help in WvW.

7. Try transferring servers. Just not ours. We prefer to leave the drama to other servers. Plus I don’t think you would get along with our fighters. We believe in Win you believe in (well honestly, i have no clue reading your posts. i think you just want someone to tell you its okay)

8. Failure – You Live it , We Don’t.

9. When we mess up or something isn’t working, we go back and say how can we fix this. Where can we make changes. Apparently you make QQ forum posts.

10. WvW is not fair. Its about tactics. Strategy, Etc. Feel free to go to “Fractals” or “CoF”. You know something you possibly could succeed in.

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Ah. I see now!

Well-played Liu.

That is some professional work baiting me to taking you seriously one time. But you made a mistake, you should have tossed down ‘Well I am not sure how to defend against golems, can someone show me how?’ instead of ‘Wah, Golems are bad and stuff, why should I learn to adapt?’

Might have gotten another few posts from me since this thread is just trolling Yak’s Bend.

Bravo.

That part about ‘Lack of integrity’ was really a flub though, gave it away big time. Keep working on those trolling skills amigo.

Because there is no way anyone can be that hurt about golems. To the point of ignoring actual advice and recommendations.

Just ignore the troll fellow yakers.

We do it BECAUSE IT IS SO kitten HILARIOUS! Plus we are very busy people we don’t have time to knock down all your reinforced keeps.

Kitten we have other borderlands to terrorize.

Liu.4751:

One could assume if your being efficient means you want to quickest and maybe easiest way to win. I.e you lack integrity for admitting to that. Rather than posting other mumbo jumbo about qqing , people being self centred, quaggans and other mechanics lol.

I about Yaks bend has become a Highclass/numbers/rallied sever just now because when CD beat both kaineng/yaks bend 2 weeks straight forward you probably guessed, it was the time when golems we’re 500 badges of honour and cost things what take time/skill/tactics to receive other than using Gold what can be farmed easy with the new content updates over the past few weeks haha.

Now I could be wrong and I would admit that for my ignorance but if we won this matchup 2 weeks in a row without the sellable siege weapons(alpha/omega golems) and you have it now you are winning. One could fairly assume that. Plus I have witnessed every non feint attack By Yaks bend has been in a form of distraction by siege grazer or keep tapping follow by a Full on omega(6-7)25+ players at least. Golem zerg to water gate of our garrisons numerous times. Everyday, I even counted the time between 3 golem attacks and it was roughly just over the hour before it was welcomly repeated.

So unless you want to state your opinion on Golem rushes, i.e you like them or don’t or they should be restricted to badges of honour again I’m not sure. But the Posts from Yaks bends players seem to be emotional reactions to my original thread post rather then taking any time to re evaluate what they feel about omega siege rushing being done to them would be a good place to start. Omega siege golems being spam and stacked to garner easy Exp/point by turning Tier 3 towers/defend or undefended, with siege or none of it ;D to rubble in mere minutes.
Now you say we need numbers we sure do but as I said earlier we’re not used to golem rushes from you due to you never using them like this during our 2week runnings back a 2 to 3 months ago. And two other match ups over the best month we’re u came 2nd one week and 3rd the later one. Now you could say we need to organise and adapt and we do, and say we have to run to defend our stuff but is that really a fair measure to imply to have to succeed against a tactic what takes 5 minutes or less to literally flip a full upgraded tier 3 keep let alone a tower? haha.
I could go into why players shouldn’t have to rush to succeed and rather if you want me to haha but I’ll leave it at this for now because no one wants to have to rush to a keep and drop everything just to stop something anet should of made only Accessible using Badges of honour. It’s stressful if your dedicated to winning lool.

First, I think you are using “integrity” wrong. What is not honest or morally wrong about using Omega rushes? How does that hurt us as a server? This feels akin to people complaining about siege in open field fights.

I get you are upset about the fact that you are losing to us when you use to steamroll over us months ago or at least have a closer match. We bypassed you long before our golem rushes. Now if the match up you were talking about was last week, I would understand a bit more about being upset…but it was MONTHS ago. All 3 servers have changed since then…so I think this is more about you being upset that you aren’t steamrolling us than it is about the Omega rushes.

What I don’t really understand is why are you so upset over something you guys can do too? I mean, we just had CD hit our BL with golems and you guys actually took bay and south towers. We defended hills and scattered you, but then you trenched into SW tower and held us off with the use of a TON of siege. In fact…so much siege that we didn’t dare bring golems over cause they would have died. Thing is…we called in reinforcements that arrived just in time to help save Hills…they dropped everything to come to our call and defend. It can be stressful yes…but it is also FANTASTIC when the invaders are beaten back and forced to either scatter or barricade themselves in a tower! Now, THAT’S fun.

So, all I get from you is that you are upset that your fair weathers left because they realized we weren’t going to be steamrolled like we were MONTHS ago and that you are blaming it on the fact that Omega’s are cheap instead of the fact that no one came to help defend even one keep. Cause you know…they could have…and should have if the home BL is important. lol Each plays how they want, but really…integrity has nothing to do with Omega rushes. Nor does the fact that you are gonna lose this week. Just deal, enjoy the fights and start figuring out counters to golem rushes cause we aren’t the only server to use them! (Others have used them against us a lot…how do you think we got the idea??)

Lol, I’ll bite, cus i just can’t resist. Can you not read? Your question that has been reputedly not answered have been answered manyyy times. I myself have said before, lemme emphasize. WE DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING FUN. ENJOYING ALL ASPECTS OF WVW.

Also here’s a pic for you :P greetings from Yaks’ morning crew. And before you QQ further, there was only one omega and 4 alphas with 15 ppl max. Lol.

Seigfried.5938:

teg.1340:

Omegas are fine. Portals are the problem.

Just remove the ability for Omegas to move through portals.

And remove any strategy involving the usage of golems?

I dunno it might actually work. It adds another level of strategy. If you make a bunch at a keep and walk them somewhere you are taking a risk of being seen, losing them, etc. but the reward is very high as you have that many golems at a keep’s defense if you get there. However if you get to a sneaky spot and throw down the build spot you could cut out a lot of your travel time so it would be easier to get one there. But the con to that is you wouldn’t have as many. I approve the no golems through portals.

1. All we can see is a forum post with someone raging as you put it. Posing a serious question to Yaks bends players on why they abuse the broken mechanics of allowing Omega siege to by brought with gold instead of the realistic method it once was and continue to dodge the questions despite being called out multiple times on their flaws in their replies.

2. Okay.. lol. more something else but we all know what it is anyway ;p.

3. Well clearly but only if you can win with money as we’ve examined as number/tactics aren’t enough for some severs you play against.(amount of superior siege I saw loitered in your Bay keep was incredibly now it’s the obvious thing to do FairPlay but that’s alot of money something we didn’t witness from your sever last times. Score ;D, but we can conclude your using gold/money irl maybe even to sustain it far beyond what you previously had used.

4. well not now but why both bringing up middle school like your trying to devalue my arguments without any constructive feedback instead it’s just more dodgy,devalue, Let’s buy golems! MOREEE lol.

5. Well they clearly do because they can’t be comprehended if your not going to take the time and search for answers. My argument was they shouldn’t be allowed in WvW if they’re gonna be gold sinked there’s been many threads on this we can all conclude it’s extremely unbalanced is used correctly against unexpecting foes.

6. Who me? or the sever I’m sure every sever sucks it just matters what you suck at depending on players, around and their moods.

7. Well no need to devalue my post if you can’t make anything out of it, that is just plain disrespectful.

8. No it seems you went out of your way to gold sink to win. My reasons would be CD has had 3 weeks of getting steamrolled by FA with each week having TC swell which could explain why people cant be asked to deal with omega rushes after 4 weeks of not having much to hold in wvw anyway. There’s no pride it what your doing because as I’ve pointed out we beat you 3/4 times when you had no way to gold sink in Sup acs/treb and your loveable golems.
So I wouldn’t take this as a failure issue. Plus if well.. you’d be tier 1 if you wasn’t failures must be tough. The contradiction is glaring haha.

9. Well that’s assumption that I haven been the guy sieging up our Bl and asking to refreshed everyday and calling my guild for active players to try entice them to leave PvE to help a lost cause. So where that’s a respectful thing to say(i.e trying to fix things), you devalued it by assuming what I done as a player as I wasn’t the guy who tried fix things my end you see. Thanks for that rena, very respectful, touché.

10. I know wow isn’t fair. Never said it was and to keep saying I’m bad player is really starting to show your true colours there’s no need to personally attack me as being sucky. What makes even unfairer for a sever to have to try and deal with a group people going of their way to abuse the new widely available siege using probably real money or their stash from farming coming to a matchup with severs what may of had downtimes or players fed up doing the same stuff in WvW for 3/4 just to encounter it again, hence why I feel most players went Eb it was a refresh from having to hold one tower in your own BLs for hours tryng to rally people together.

How would you feel if another severOmega rushed your Bl with a 30+ man even 35 zerg nearly everyday since reset and You’ve had enough from last 3 weeks matchups. I fear the answer to that will make all your posts quite contradictory because I’m sure we’ll all see throw the sarcasm or off batting of that question as just attempts to defend your lame game plans you’ve employed in this matchup.

So answer the question or stop reading the thread. How would you feel if someone did what you did to you action to moment? The lack of compassion is astounding.

This forum post of amusement has been brought to you by:

Liu for overseer for all of eternity

A Vote for Liu is a vote for integrity/Dignity and Compassion.

Lame isn’t it..

Theia.4830:

Also here’s a pic for you :P greetings from Yaks’ morning crew. And before you QQ further, there was only one omega and 4 alphas with 15 ppl max. Lol.

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Theia.4830:

Lol, I’ll bite, cus i just can’t resist. Can you not read? Your question that has been reputedly not answered have been answered manyyy times. I myself have said before, lemme emphasize. WE DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING FUN. ENJOYING ALL ASPECTS OF WVW.

Well why did’t you do it when golems when they we’re brought with badges of honour. I’m sorry but you’ve just contradicted your reason for doing it. Try again. Plus does having fun mean making sure other people can’t fun defending? If so I don’t think it works that way.; p

Kurieg.4158:

Theia.4830:

Also here’s a pic for you :P greetings from Yaks’ morning crew. And before you QQ further, there was only one omega and 4 alphas with 15 ppl max. Lol.

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That was just plain disrespectful. No other words about it

Sykper.6583:

Ah. I see now!

Well-played Liu.

That is some professional work baiting me to taking you seriously one time. But you made a mistake, you should have tossed down ‘Well I am not sure how to defend against golems, can someone show me how?’ instead of ‘Wah, Golems are bad and stuff, why should I learn to adapt?’

Might have gotten another few posts from me since this thread is just trolling Yak’s Bend.

Bravo.

That part about ‘Lack of integrity’ was really a flub though, gave it away big time. Keep working on those trolling skills amigo.

Because there is no way anyone can be that hurt about golems. To the point of ignoring actual advice and recommendations.

Just ignore the troll fellow yakers.

You do not replying to a guy who you’ve called a troll make you also a troll? You just trolled yourself me good friend. Now time for some honesty instead trying rile me about by alienate me as a troll who doesn’t listen, hey?

I’m just going to toss in my 2 cents.

After the usual reset, a group of us go out into WvW to find some good fights mostly in Eternal Battlegrounds. Most of the time lately we are not impressed because we either find nobody there, very small roaming groups, or groups that just run. We do occasionally get a decent fight. If we are bored from no action we would hit Crystal Desert Borderlands and sometimes use golems to hope to drive some attention and get you guys here defending. This plan does not always work, sometimes that it doesn’t work is that you all decide to port into Eternal as soon as we all leave. If you have an issue with omega golems then send in your thoughts to ArenaNet and hope that they would do something if you are even lucky being one of many who play the game. If you say we don’t go toe to toe with you guys then you are obviously not where any of the good fights are going on and cooped up in your keep far from the fight or at spawn where you are protected. Just what I have to say on it.

Your friendly neighborhood Chár Zard.

“So answer the question or stop reading the thread.”

It’s fun and effective as stated multiple times. Read that reply slowly.

And now a brief overview of your opinions, assumptions, and inane proclamations from just your last reply…

“…broken mechanics of allowing Omega siege to by brought with gold…”

“…alot of money something we didn’t witness from your sever last time…”

“…it seems you went out of your way to gold sink to win…”

“…people going of their way to abuse the new widely available siege using probably real money…”

so when the US bombed Hiroshima… did Japan message the US to tell them to fight with integrity and fairness? I cant remember…

not sure why you are calling out the server… call out Chris from [one], hes the one that has been tearing you guys apart.. last night he had us take our clothes off and gang bng your zerg… also we have done many no siege rushes on your keeps. You guys have two tactics HUGE zergs and arrow carts, we dont cry when we die to them when we are crazy out numbered, ever heard of “take it like a man”.

On another note.. I joined Public enemy number [one] not long ago.. bad*ss guild. If you enjoy making other servers cry message any member and ask about how to apply.

8. No it seems you went out of your way to gold sink to win. My reasons would be CD has had 3 weeks of getting steamrolled by FA with each week having TC swell which could explain why people cant be asked to deal with omega rushes after 4 weeks of not having much to hold in wvw anyway. There’s no pride it what your doing because as I’ve pointed out we beat you 3/4 times when you had no way to gold sink in Sup acs/treb and your loveable golems.
So I wouldn’t take this as a failure issue. Plus if well.. you’d be tier 1 if you wasn’t failures must be tough. The contradiction is glaring haha.

Please don’t assume that everyone has BOUGHT those golems from the tp lol how do you know that they didn’t have stockpiles of it from badges? Or from rolling all those keeps? Lol, your ignorance to how much siege a commander has and can carry around is astounding.

How would you feel if another severOmega rushed your Bl with a 30+ man even 35 zerg nearly everyday since reset and You’ve had enough from last 3 weeks matchups. I fear the answer to that will make all your posts quite contradictory because I’m sure we’ll all see throw the sarcasm or off batting of that question as just attempts to defend your lame game plans you’ve employed in this matchup.

Lol face SOS in a matchup and then come to us about unfair. 30+man? Try 60. Don’t make me laugh. We’ve held our bl garri for most of that matchup. And it was THE ONLY thing we could hold when the massive SOS blob crashed onto our bls. We get that you’re mad lol. Upset that you weren’t steamrolling us like you did before. But we learned, we grew, we took the beating like a good loser and adapted, changed, and came up on top.

Perhaps you should give that a try instead of QQing here. We would love to see some fight from you guys in the actually matchup instead of being a forum warrior, cus that would be fun too.

1. I don’t get how it is abuse? I mean…it isn’t a hack, it isn’t something only we can do…if some commanders or players want to make Omega’s…COOL! I personally make a ton of other sup siege when MF is part of daily…

2. No, golem rushes have always been fun. It’s a shiny that gets pugs to follow. Has always been that way and right now we have more pugs than we ever use to. It’s been fantastic since we lost some guilds a couple of months ago. Besides..it’d probably stop if it ever became ineffective…..but really, that’s for you to do…

3. What does money have to do with anything? I mean…Commander tags are outrageous, yet people buy them to help out with WvW..should they not do that? As for our siege in bay..just so you know..it’s been there pretty much all week cause we tag it hourly. So, really…it doesn’t cost that much. You’re right, you didn’t witness that from our server last time because we are different now. People left, we consolidated and are working together. We have awesome commanders that work together and one that stays at home to ensure people keep the siege refreshed. As for not seeing lots of superior before…it was probably because they went away in a half hour and because no one tagged back then, so why waste?

4. What was your arguement? lol I realize this is to Rena…but still..what was it? Oh yeah….“Moooommmm! Yak’s Bend is using Omega Golems again!”

5. Golems are a gold sink? Didn’t you say they are cheaper now? So…weren’t they a gold sink before? Or are you just saying that because prints are cheaper than they were before? Personally, why don’t you buy them up? I haven’t bought any, but I get mine from NPC/player kills mostly and then give them to commanders to use.

6. Agreed. Every server has a weakness..it just depends on if the opposing servers can coordinate and get enough bodies to take advantage of the weakness. CD’s is that they will not mobilize to save the home BL.

7. Ok, to Rena again…will skip.

8. So basically, CD got golem rushed by FA/TC too many times and are just tired of seeing them. Instead of using the tactic yourself on us or Kain, you chose to complain when you saw us use it. Btw…Golems didn’t let us win. If you would have stopped our golem rushes at any point, they probably would have quit happening. Golems have always been a shiny (like SM) and people flock to golem rushes. It’s fun! Especially when it works.

9. Again, to Rena….but if you are trying to do those things, cool. If not, why not start a thread on your forums asking why no one moblizes to save home BL? Though, wait..you explain why in point 10.

10. So, wait…..your lack of morale after fighting larger servers is OUR fault? You feel we are picking on you because of our golem rushes? Umm….I don’t get that reasoning. I understand being tired of getting rolled over by servers with larger numbers…been there, done that…but to blame us. Seriously, this point just proves it is a server issue and really has nothing to do with YB or golems at all. I’m sorry you guys didn’t continue to win after Saturday. I’m sorry your morale is low. Take a break from WvW for a week or so and revitalize. I had to do that, so understand.

Just so you know…we’ve been in on the receiving end of golem rushes. Some we’ve repelled, some we didn’t. Most of the time one keep is gone due to melting gates and maybe lose another while people stream in but rarely did we lose 3 unless no one was on…which did happen. I mean, we know it isn’t an original idea but seriously, where did you think we got idea? Where do you think we learned to mobilize and defend home when called? Cause we’ve been where you are! We spent most of the spring dealing with superior numbers, golem rushes and zergs at play times we barely had enough people to take back camps. We had our server shake up and lost some good friends for various reasons. (Like the last time we fought) Now though, we’ve shaken off our low morale and found the fun in WvW again. Does that mean we always win? No…but we TRY to every week!

Ahhh!!! Ok, so you are basically wondering why there are so many golems this time around. I see! Honestly, like I said before, we’ve always done golem rushes. It’s just that we stop doing them when we learn they are not effective during certain match-ups.

I’ve never made an Omega golem so I do not know how it is different. I do know I’ve gotten a lot of golem prints and did not pay for a one of them…either before or after the change.

So, you are blaming YB’s “integrity” because you feel we are buying up all these golems just to use against you. You call it “integrity” because for whatever reason you and/or your server will not do this, so you obviously have a moral high ground.

I see now. Well, you are probably right that the cheap price of golem prints is a reason some commanders have so many and decide to make Omega’s. I do know that we had quite a few commanders that made Omega’s before the change and used them quite frequently. Again…major rushes did not happen frequently if the first or second assault was stalled. CD has not really stalled us this match-up…hence their prolific use.

There are ways to beat a golem rush and I am sorry that your server’s morale is so low that they do not feel like the home BL is fun to defend. Yak’s has been there…it gets better, I promise. Take deep breaths, maybe do a dungeon or something and then go back and fight. I mean, really…we would rather you defended your stuff. I loved how you guys sieged up our SW Tower this morning and just mowed through us. Numbers equal and having to figure out how to get you guys out was so much fun. We need more fights like that!! lol

Here’s the problem, like a lot of people mentioned before, you assume we just BUY those golems at the TP.

That’s YOU being disrespectful right there.
You think we dont have enough people playing WvW constantly to buy those with badges? How about the badges from the achievements? How about the random siege drops? How about the siege from lvling up wvw ranks? How about the loot from the WvW jumping puzzles? How about siege donations from different players, be it pve players who have no use for it or WvW players who would rather our commanders have it?

Siege is easily available to us, as it should be to you, and that has nothing to do about integrity.
I think the real question you want answered is “why are you guys doing this to us” and the answer is simple; Before we did it because it’s a valid and strong strategy, now we do it mostly to make you QQ some more.

So finally got to the bottom and truth. Myself and a few others got whispered by him. So we invited him to party because the amusement just kept coming.

First Off

His only concern was to express that CD was better than us and that the only reason we are winning is because we dump 100s of gold into golems.

After nearly 1 hours of reading through the gibberish we got to the truth.

I know I should not talk but KARAM, SEVER. (This is how we spelled Server and Karma train.)

Then he said that the Golem strike in the morning was actually successful . This is where we instantly responded and destroyed there omegas and saved bay.

Unfortunately we dont have any screenshots of what really happened and honestly we lost bay who cares. Waypoint / Seige back up. LOL

So basically the whole intent behind all of this bull was that CD is better than us and only because we can use golems are we winning. The End. I have screenshots of the conversation btw if anyone is interested in laughing there kitten off.

Here is a funny little fact for you as well. The last time YB and CD squared off if I’m correct is when we had Mag as a 3rd. Now in that match you awesome CD guys beat us by what 1k? This after Mag telling us they were focusing us to allow you to take second place. Funny Funny Funny. Now you are still saying you guys are so much better then us blah blah blah. When the truth is you guys have become what you hate lol. You ball into a zerg and sit on one BL. That right there = LOSS. You may have been better then the demoralized YB, or the YB that lost some big numbers over the past few weeks who knows. One thing is for certain you are not better then the NEW YB at all nowhere near. So please crawl back into your crib and I’ll have mommy bring you a bottle.

Ugh, I always hate getting matched with CD because of the QQ. I don’t think the whole server is bad, but unfortunately they have some very vocal poor sports. Look forward to this match ending and playing with more pleasant and competitive servers.

As for Yaks, I’m really pleased with the improvements.

So we were just at Bay on CDBL for the second time tonight with no golems and no CD in sight. Just 1 lone guy and a bunch of quaggans…

RoChan.1926:

So we were just at Bay on CDBL for the second time tonight with no golems and no CD in sight. Just 1 lone guy and a bunch of quaggans…

Those quaggans are no joke almost wiped us

I thought the point of golems is that they are powerful but slow and thus vulnerable in open-field encounters.
Allowing them to portal is essentially removing that element from their design. If you do that you can just give them normal walking speed and the ability to be effected by swiftness like the Mesmers who are their legs anyway. Maybe give the golems a built in blink too to perfectly recreate the speed they currently have.
I think in the shielded bubble that is the ANet office complex managing a portal chain is still seen as some incredibly skillful tactical and organisational move that should be rewarded with a 20-golem-rush.

Good thing you preface this by saying " I’m not Qqing or any of that online mumbo jumbo…", otherwise I would’ve thought this is just a massive QQ post.

anyways, worrying about ppt and rating is stupid

Good fights this week, Yaks and Kainengs <3