Guild Wars 2

With this new update to how WvW will be matched population is clearly going to be the ultimate factor. I think the only way to help control population is not to try and control what players will do but let them move between the servers. Is it not true that the server became stuck with one another after server transfers were a paid thing? Is it not true that if a guild was tired of facing the same server they could freely transfer to another server? Sure you might see the rise and fall of some servers but is that not the point of this new random system too.

I believe this would ultimately help the WvW. If they do not want to change how ppt is scored or change controlling a ratio. I guess we should give this “new” system time but I cant see this working on in the long run I see this chasing more players away from the game then anything. Fighting outmanned week in and week out is not fun.

No, infact I think the opposite is true. With free transfers, you’d see massive movements of people between servers on reset nights when one server finds out that they’re going to be in a tough match-up for the next week. With paid transfers people slowly trickle away from a sinking ship. With free transfers, you’d see virtual stampedes, rendering the entire server rating system completely pointless.

Transfers don’t create stability and balance, they destroy it.

Only to lower tiers or T4 & below

Doomdesire.9365:

Only to lower tiers or T4 & below

If Anet really wanted stability they just have to pay people gold to move (but never more than the transfer cost.)

Feeling like giving Gates of Madness a try? Receive 30 gold with your successful move, delivered right to your in game mailbox!

People are suckers.

Free transfers to the bottom 2 tiers would be good i guess.

I don’t think free transfers would be wise at all. Although I noticed recently that it costs me the same amount to transfer to a low tier server as it does to a high tier server. I don’t think this should be the case. It should be much cheaper to transfer to low tier servers. And in all honesty I am a prime example of why, because I was tossing up between going to SOR and going to a low tier server and I opted for SOR in the end because it cost the same amount.

Bottom server should be free, bottom 3 tiers should be very cheap, cant transfer to tier one, tier 2 and 3 should be price they are now if I missed any you get point anyways

It’s not the server cost, although personally i do really want them to open it but i know if they did it would be a mistake. It would only create more problems and it would ultimately be for the worse, although i do believe adding more servers would benefit as all the servers populations are “Very High” and the top few servers are “Full” and aslong as they had a cool name that would attract new players to join i don’t see much area for failure.

The only servers that deserve free transfers are the bottom rung below 1000 ratings points: Vabbi, Fissure of Woe, Eredon Terrace, and Ferguson’s Crossing. None of the other servers should have free transfers unless their rating points also fall below 1000 rating points.

I think free transfers would be fine, just make the time between transfers a month or so. Then even if guilds decided to move servers, they would be stuck on that server for at least 4 matchups.

hi my name is NinjaFish

I’v been playing guild wars 2 for about a week now and my friend are all playing on another server it would be nice if you guys could transfer me to Jade Quarry because my i cant pay because i don’t have my credit card and my parents wont pay so if you could transfer me i would be very thankful.

Thank you for your time NinjaFish

Only limited time free transfers at the same time they lower map the caps (which desperately has to be done because the game is currently unplayable in large zerg on zerg battles on top tiers). Sadly we can expect us silly humans to do what is best for us or our communties by better spreading out our population without lower map caps and hence back to evil long queues. Please, please for the love of my number 1 key please lower map caps in WvW to something the hamsters can handle.

PariahX.6970:

Only limited time free transfers at the same time they lower map the caps (which desperately has to be done because the game is currently unplayable in large zerg on zerg battles on top tiers). Please, please for the love of my number 1 key please lower map caps in WvW to something the hamsters can handle.

Agree 100%, these over the top zerg sizes make it unplayable. Lower the cap per map, long ques means people will want to transfer to lower pop servers instead of waiting in que. Maybe add more servers at some point if needed.

Agree with you i want to play wvw with a friend. But that would cost me 56g and I’m not going to pay it never i hate pay to win gemstore. and don’t come with this then bad players change to high rank servers it will happen anyway the difference is only those with a lot of money will do it. They should just get rid of the ladders if that is what holding it back.

No.

They did it in March, it has been more harm than good.

we’ve got guilds jumping all over the place screwing with things already so I don’t see what the fuss over community is these days. Yeah in a perfect world things would have been set up for stability from the start but that didn’t happen and now we are stuck with the stack at top mentality where we keep getting more and more guilds moving up regardless of the price of transfers while skill lag in WvW becomes insane.

Lower WvW map population caps would fix so many other problems that it can only be the queue / server transfer issue that is holding them back so I am all for anything that can be done to make WvW playable again. There’s been a lot of good ideas on way to do it that would not be community or game breaking.

let me help anet do a bit of thinking since they are too slow :

1. reduce number of players per world per map by half.

2. open a one day free transfer, marking stacked servers (rank 1-4) as full.

3. do a complete random match up across all servers.

4. everyone happy (including anet)

I’m on Blacktide, a “high population” server, and 25/27 in wvw. Believe me, just getting people onto the server isn’t always the problem. I wish it was.

Free transfers to lower tier severs though… hmm. Interesting. Maybe.

Ragnar.4257:

With free transfers, you’d see virtual stampedes, rendering the entire server rating system completely pointless. Transfers don’t create stability and balance, they destroy it.

With the exception of the top servers and bottom servers, there is no real stability or balance now. Servers are still bouncing all over the place just like they were with free transfers. Only difference now is a lot of guilds that don’t farm gold cannot easily get off a server they don’t like.

Players should be encouraged to move around a bit more since they would bring new ways of playing to other servers, create more diversity in matchups and allow the player to experience different styles of play.

I can see limiting the transfers to a specific day of the week and preventing servers with long queues from getting freebies though.

Old thread….

Paid transfer result in these things I see
Quantitative wise, reduce the number of people hopping around to improve stability hence allowing the matchup system to work better. Improving the server population with lesser hoppers.

Qualitative wise, forces the players to actually get to know the server instead of hopping to greener pasture. Forces players to make serious decisions such as transfer, attempts to change things and so on.

I agree allowing the bottom servers to have free transfer into
i agree in locking the top servers but addon to that, build up the mid and low tier servers if Anet really intend to have a wider variety of matchups

PS: i dont see many games that allow free transfer between “country”, “kingdom”, “world” or whatever. the reason is obvious, there are more people who will want to hop to a green pasture than to fight and make a different.

SkyShroud.2865:

the reason is obvious, there are more people who will want to hop to a green pasture than to fight and make a different.

The options for a player today are: pay over $20 to move to a different server hoping for a better experience, they keep playing on a server they don’t like or they quit WvW likely moving out of GW2 altogether.

The problem with like it or lump it is that there is a third option which is simply to quit playing the game.

Free transfers have nothing to do with WvW population.

Or wait till more guilds quit..already a few WvW ones did here and there and disbanded.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Free transfers have nothing to do with WvW population.

Actually I think free transfers helps WvW population. If free transfers are back, all those people who just who wants to stack on the winning server will hop on and force the overstacked servers to start breaking apart and spread their population to servers who aren’t so stacked. In a way, it forces distribution to other servers and helps balance WvW. Afterall, who would like to sit in queues for hours when their goal is to play and compete? Please bring back free transfers once in a while so we can force players/guilds to move about to create a more balance environment.

I think free server transfers would be a good idea. Some people think everyone will transfer to the higher ranking servers? However once there the server ques and PVD would be a factor too. Not everyone is looking for a free or easy win. A lot are looking for a fun match up. Its not fun PVD and its not fun having only having 10-20 or less vs a qued server.

This first initial rush might be bad but i think it would help balance out coverage agian. People are unpredictable so it could go either way, but if everyone flooded to winning servers how would the servers really be any different then they are now?

With the new system it was not in place yet when they turned off the free transfers. I doubt this will ever happen though since I am sure they get a lot of money from entire guilds wanting to move off a server that has become empty or given up.

Straegen.2938:

SkyShroud.2865:

the reason is obvious, there are more people who will want to hop to a green pasture than to fight and make a different.

The options for a player today are: pay over $20 to move to a different server hoping for a better experience, they keep playing on a server they don’t like or they quit WvW likely moving out of GW2 altogether.

The problem with like it or lump it is that there is a third option which is simply to quit playing the game.

“better experience” is just a nice alternative word for “greener pasture”.
it is not hard to farm 50g to transfer though indeed is time consuming which make people to seriously think twice before transfer. people who seriously want to transfer will work for that gold and make a transfer, there are already many living examples.

if they ever quit the game, it just mean they are casuals from the start.

Yeah current match making sucks so hard that soon most lower to mid tier get tired of being stomped and want to move bigger servers.