Guild Wars 2

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I realized one can buy ascended armor from fractal vendors for some gold + this and that. How many fractals must be done for the this and that? Low level fractals, up to lvl 40 maybe.

I stopped crafting ascended time-limited materials because I don’t want PvE grind anymore. Exo armor is ok now (tiers); two asc weapon boxes left for rev after I buy HoT expansion someday.

I think the best way to introduce ascended armor into WvW (i made a post about it but it didnt attract any attention) is to add a new currency to reward tracks.
Specifically, the WvW reward tracks (Hero Weapon, Triumphant Armor and Gift of Battle).
Then add a new vendor with the armor/weapons available.
New Currency + Badges

Draeyon.4392:

I think the best way to introduce ascended armor into WvW (i made a post about it but it didnt attract any attention) is to add a new currency to reward tracks.
Specifically, the WvW reward tracks (Hero Weapon, Triumphant Armor and Gift of Battle).
Then add a new vendor with the armor/weapons available.
New Currency + Badges

Adding new currencies doesn’t make sense. One should be able to buy ascended using existing currencies, mainly proofs of heroics and badges of honor.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Draeyon.4392:

I think the best way to introduce ascended armor into WvW (i made a post about it but it didnt attract any attention) is to add a new currency to reward tracks.
Specifically, the WvW reward tracks (Hero Weapon, Triumphant Armor and Gift of Battle).
Then add a new vendor with the armor/weapons available.
New Currency + Badges

Adding new currencies doesn’t make sense. One should be able to buy ascended using existing currencies, mainly proofs of heroics and badges of honor.

Actually adding new currencies is the only option. People will start from the same spot and dont have to waste their heroics or badges on ascended armor as they’re meant for HoT stuff +siege + foods.

I am not sure what’s the optimal way to obtain the currency, I dont think passive playstyle like reward tracks is the solution. There’s so many ways to abuse the reward tracks including botting, ruins and dolyaks. Maybe just make them wallet currency inside Rankup chests so they’re related to wxp. Another option is to get some randomly from killing enemies and keep/tower lords but this one seems little hard to balance around considering the activity hours in different tiers.

I apologize for my errors I my last post .But my point still remains that its not that hard to make or acquire ascended gear.I have six full sets that I made myself and 1 set from just drops. I have changed the stats on those sets at least dozen times in the mystic forge . I have so many rings I’m salvaging most of them.Back packs.rings and other accessories are ridiculously easy to get in the new maps.Oh ya you don’t do PvE or craft .Well that’s your undoing.Why the heck are you even playing for.It’s like wanting to go to the Olympics but you don’t want to train.It,s getting to the point where people just want it so easy all they want to do is stand in Lions Arch and collect prizes all day for nothing.
You reap what you sow.

Mokk.2397:

I apologize for my errors I my last post .But my point still remains that its not that hard to make or acquire ascended gear.I have six full sets that I made myself and 1 set from just drops. I have changed the stats on those sets at least dozen times in the mystic forge . I have so many rings I’m salvaging most of them.Back packs.rings and other accessories are ridiculously easy to get in the new maps.Oh ya you don’t do PvE or craft .Well that’s your undoing.Why the heck are you even playing for.It’s like wanting to go to the Olympics but you don’t want to train.It,s getting to the point where people just want it so easy all they want to do is stand in Lions Arch and collect prizes all day for nothing.
You reap what you sow.

I play for the large scale combat…….
Spending hours grinding away at this games boring kitten PvE doesn’t appeal to me at all.

Your analogy is flawed, it would be more like giving competitors in the Olympics advantages like being able to use a trampoline for the high jump if they spend their first 12 days working the vendor stands.

Mokk.2397:

I apologize for my errors I my last post .But my point still remains that its not that hard to make or acquire ascended gear.I have six full sets that I made myself and 1 set from just drops. I have changed the stats on those sets at least dozen times in the mystic forge . I have so many rings I’m salvaging most of them.Back packs.rings and other accessories are ridiculously easy to get in the new maps.Oh ya you don’t do PvE or craft .Well that’s your undoing.Why the heck are you even playing for.It’s like wanting to go to the Olympics but you don’t want to train.It,s getting to the point where people just want it so easy all they want to do is stand in Lions Arch and collect prizes all day for nothing.
You reap what you sow.

But why does PvP get ascended armor when PvP doesn’t require it? And even if they should get it to explore other game modes (I bet nobody thought of that) then why is it easier?

I think the problem here isn’t the ascended armor itself, as the benefits from armor really aren’t that big but rather it’s being pulled out to give incentive to pvp, but they never really do that to WvW.

If they made it so that pve gear doesn’t matter in WvW you’d have a point, but since it does, you really don’t. People don’t want to get things for nothing, they would work for it, but in their preferred game mode. It makes zero sense that the best way to get optimal stats in a game mode is by not playing it.

It should be noted that before ascended, you were able to purchase the highest tier of equipment, exotic, with gold and badges.

Threather.9354:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Draeyon.4392:

I think the best way to introduce ascended armor into WvW (i made a post about it but it didnt attract any attention) is to add a new currency to reward tracks.
Specifically, the WvW reward tracks (Hero Weapon, Triumphant Armor and Gift of Battle).
Then add a new vendor with the armor/weapons available.
New Currency + Badges

Adding new currencies doesn’t make sense. One should be able to buy ascended using existing currencies, mainly proofs of heroics and badges of honor.

Actually adding new currencies is the only option. People will start from the same spot and dont have to waste their heroics or badges on ascended armor as they’re meant for HoT stuff +siege + foods.

I am not sure what’s the optimal way to obtain the currency, I dont think passive playstyle like reward tracks is the solution. There’s so many ways to abuse the reward tracks including botting, ruins and dolyaks. Maybe just make them wallet currency inside Rankup chests so they’re related to wxp. Another option is to get some randomly from killing enemies and keep/tower lords but this one seems little hard to balance around considering the activity hours in different tiers.

Ye, your probably right.
Another way that actually will time-gate the armor (meaning it cant be Ktrained/farmed to get) would be to add a weekly (or monthly) achievement. Player kills, keep captures/defense etc. Tokens awarded upon completion. Obtaining a full set of armor should take roughly 3-4 months or so. Weapons a month each (1h 2 weeks, 2h 4 weeks). It makes a single piece achievable in the short term but a full set requires people to come back to WvW (if they choose to only obtain the armor in this way).

Draeyon.4392:

Ye, your probably right.
Another way that actually will time-gate the armor (meaning it cant be Ktrained/farmed to get) would be to add a weekly (or monthly) achievement. Player kills, keep captures/defense etc. Tokens awarded upon completion. Obtaining a full set of armor should take roughly 3-4 months or so. Weapons a month each (1h 2 weeks, 2h 4 weeks). It makes a single piece achievable in the short term but a full set requires people to come back to WvW (if they choose to only obtain the armor in this way).

Your suggested rate is way too slow. Currently some people have gotten 5 pieces of ascended armor from mere 10 hours of spvp. Why WvWvW ascended rewards should be over 20 times slower?

WvWvW needs significantly improved rewards. The easiest way for developers would simply add new items for WvWvW vendors e.g. ability to buy ascended backpiece, ascended weapons and ascended armor + fractal related things (e.g. Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence) using proofs of heroics and/or badges of honor and/or laurels and/or gold.

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

Since the patch launched my guild mates have been playing PvP to get ascended armour. Some of them already have 1 full set and starting work on their second set.

How did they do that with limit on shards?

Deniara Devious.3948:

Draeyon.4392:

Ye, your probably right.
Another way that actually will time-gate the armor (meaning it cant be Ktrained/farmed to get) would be to add a weekly (or monthly) achievement. Player kills, keep captures/defense etc. Tokens awarded upon completion. Obtaining a full set of armor should take roughly 3-4 months or so. Weapons a month each (1h 2 weeks, 2h 4 weeks). It makes a single piece achievable in the short term but a full set requires people to come back to WvW (if they choose to only obtain the armor in this way).

Your suggested rate is way too slow. Currently some people have gotten 5 pieces of ascended armor from mere 10 hours of spvp. Why WvWvW ascended rewards should be over 20 times slower?

WvWvW needs significantly improved rewards. The easiest way for developers would simply add new items for WvWvW vendors e.g. ability to buy ascended backpiece, ascended weapons and ascended armor + fractal related things (e.g. Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence) using proofs of heroics and/or badges of honor and/or laurels and/or gold.

Yes, but they can ONLY get those 5 pieces for the whole season.
My suggestion was a permanent addition to WvW.
And adding a new currency should be the way it is done so as to not promote Ktraining for the loot

Draeyon.4392:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Draeyon.4392:

Ye, your probably right.
Another way that actually will time-gate the armor (meaning it cant be Ktrained/farmed to get) would be to add a weekly (or monthly) achievement. Player kills, keep captures/defense etc. Tokens awarded upon completion. Obtaining a full set of armor should take roughly 3-4 months or so. Weapons a month each (1h 2 weeks, 2h 4 weeks). It makes a single piece achievable in the short term but a full set requires people to come back to WvW (if they choose to only obtain the armor in this way).

Your suggested rate is way too slow. Currently some people have gotten 5 pieces of ascended armor from mere 10 hours of spvp. Why WvWvW ascended rewards should be over 20 times slower?

WvWvW needs significantly improved rewards. The easiest way for developers would simply add new items for WvWvW vendors e.g. ability to buy ascended backpiece, ascended weapons and ascended armor + fractal related things (e.g. Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence) using proofs of heroics and/or badges of honor and/or laurels and/or gold.

Yes, but they can ONLY get those 5 pieces for the whole season.
My suggestion was a permanent addition to WvW.
And adding a new currency should be the way it is done so as to not promote Ktraining for the loot

3-4 months is a long time for a complete set. Would make WvW the slowest way to get a full set. Would really need to depend on how much you play. I’d say maybe could go all out and get a piece a day. Maybe on average a piece every few days?

Mokk.2397:

I apologize for my errors I my last post .But my point still remains that its not that hard to make or acquire ascended gear.I have six full sets that I made myself and 1 set from just drops. I have changed the stats on those sets at least dozen times in the mystic forge . I have so many rings I’m salvaging most of them.Back packs.rings and other accessories are ridiculously easy to get in the new maps.Oh ya you don’t do PvE or craft .Well that’s your undoing.Why the heck are you even playing for.It’s like wanting to go to the Olympics but you don’t want to train.It,s getting to the point where people just want it so easy all they want to do is stand in Lions Arch and collect prizes all day for nothing.
You reap what you sow.

How do you equate PvE and Crafting to the pinnacle of gaming goals? That’s precisely the two things most WvW’ers are trying to avoid because it takes them away from the game mode they play for. And please don’t claim something stupid like any WvW player has the time or interest to pve and craft 6 full sets of ascended, you’re either not playing WvW or you don’t have a job.

We play GW2 first because we like the community in whatever mode we play in, second is that we play to progress our builds, and we play for cosmetics which ties into our build. Yes, if I had to spend the hour, hour and half I get after work to play in pve and crafting I’d definitely have to reconsider why I’m playing. That’s not the case, our game mode gains points by participation and duration, match outcome is based entirely on our effort and time we put into it, don’t try to tell us our time and effort in WvW is meaningless and that playing PVE and crafting is the primary activity.

They’ve been trying to make raiding and spvp a thing but WvW still has the most solid dedicated player base of almost any mode or mmo that I shopped around for. If we can’t gear up to best in slot at least as timely or conveniently as other modes then you know competitive players and guilds will leave the game and see how long the game is supported after that, their raids get no hype on any site or forum and spvp is still a salty subject.

Sinmir.6504:

Draeyon.4392:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Draeyon.4392:

Ye, your probably right.
Another way that actually will time-gate the armor (meaning it cant be Ktrained/farmed to get) would be to add a weekly (or monthly) achievement. Player kills, keep captures/defense etc. Tokens awarded upon completion. Obtaining a full set of armor should take roughly 3-4 months or so. Weapons a month each (1h 2 weeks, 2h 4 weeks). It makes a single piece achievable in the short term but a full set requires people to come back to WvW (if they choose to only obtain the armor in this way).

Your suggested rate is way too slow. Currently some people have gotten 5 pieces of ascended armor from mere 10 hours of spvp. Why WvWvW ascended rewards should be over 20 times slower?

WvWvW needs significantly improved rewards. The easiest way for developers would simply add new items for WvWvW vendors e.g. ability to buy ascended backpiece, ascended weapons and ascended armor + fractal related things (e.g. Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence) using proofs of heroics and/or badges of honor and/or laurels and/or gold.

Yes, but they can ONLY get those 5 pieces for the whole season.
My suggestion was a permanent addition to WvW.
And adding a new currency should be the way it is done so as to not promote Ktraining for the loot

3-4 months is a long time for a complete set. Would make WvW the slowest way to get a full set. Would really need to depend on how much you play. I’d say maybe could go all out and get a piece a day. Maybe on average a piece every few days?

Dont forget that you also keep the old loot, you get 3-4 pieces per year anyways from reward tracks + rankups. Also 3-4 months per full set would mean 3-4 sets per year, which would mean 9-12 sets EXTRA per 3 years, I dont think its that bad considering theres 9 classes