Guild Wars 2

warriorjrd.8695:

Eir Jordan.2156:

Rangers don’t bring much to zerg fights except the ability to hit the enemy commander with Entangle and I believe Engineers, Thieves, Mesmers and even Warriors are better roamers. In addition I seem to come across a lot of dead Rangers in WvW.

But you get killed by rangers on your warrior in duels don’t you? Yes actually, I remember that quite well

You remember the fight you lost and now you are lying about it to save face?! Are you kidding me?! How low of you Jarrod, though totally in character. It confirms everything Elpro ever said about you. Then again you are in INVI a guild with a gvg track record that can only bring about smirks and laughter. Your guild never evolved and never improved its game, in fact I wouldn’t be surprised if INVI never gvgs again. I hope I get to smash you again in the future just to see you squirm again in pm and then proceed to lie about it on the forums. Sorry stuff…

Prysin.8542:

here’s a secret: Bark Skin works on ALL types of damage…..

3 conditions removed every 10s versus 50% damage reduction under 25% health. Bark Skin isn’t bad but EB keeps you from getting there. EB also removes stacks of conditions throughout a fight which can be substantially more damage removal than Bark Skin. EB also includes Fear, Chill, Immobilize, Cripple, Weakness and Vuln. Most importantly EB covers a regen rangers biggest weakness, conditions. Regen rangers can manage direct damage far better than condi damage.

The downside of Bark Skin is that it only comes into play on hits when a player is less than 25%. All damage above that is 100% even if it dips them well below 25% health. For example if a player has a 23k health pool (around 6k threshold) and they get hit for 5k when their health is at 7k. They are at 2k so only the remaining 2k is actually under Bark Skin protection. This is why a player can get throttled even with this skill.

Chris.3290:

Why do I hate rangers?

Because too many are people who face-roll the keyboard and they troll their own team with that stupid knockback shot. How many times you are about to deliver a killing blow and the enemy is now 30 ft away.

For every ranger that AoE’s walls, lays down spirits, and uses traps; there is the guys that is just…there.

I love good rangers, but there seems to be more bad rangers than any other class.

The opposite is when you are about to get stomped and a ranger saves ur butt with the same knockback shot :-) Done that and I got the t-shirt too.

Eir Jordan.2156:

warriorjrd.8695:

Eir Jordan.2156:

Rangers don’t bring much to zerg fights except the ability to hit the enemy commander with Entangle and I believe Engineers, Thieves, Mesmers and even Warriors are better roamers. In addition I seem to come across a lot of dead Rangers in WvW.

But you get killed by rangers on your warrior in duels don’t you? Yes actually, I remember that quite well

You remember the fight you lost and now you are lying about it to save face?! Are you kidding me?! How low of you Jarrod, though totally in character. It confirms everything Elpro ever said about you. Then again you are in INVI a guild with a gvg track record that can only bring about smirks and laughter. Your guild never evolved and never improved its game, in fact I wouldn’t be surprised if INVI never gvgs again. I hope I get to smash you again in the future just to see you squirm again in pm and then proceed to lie about it on the forums. Sorry stuff…

ooh, I think I touched a nerve. Well I’m not sure how much of a fight, what was it, Dolyak protection service can offer, but I eagerly await it, and maybe i’ll come on my ranger just to recap your memory of obsidian sanctum.
The way you played on previous encounter the only thing I would imagine you could smash was a keep lord, but then again, that’s your specialty isn’kitten It’s amazing how mad somebody can get over one smart little comment. If what I said was a lie then why would you have taken the time to type that kind of reply?

I hope you get to opportunity to try and smash me in the future as well, then I can show you a repeat of OS, and maybe film it this time so there’s no forgetting.

Lots of love from the great white north

All this ranger QQ around…

Anyways, rangers do suck at zergs, but I’m gonna say this again: WHO CARES?! Does being a ranger makes commanders say " hey dude, don’t follow us" ? No. You get the same rewards as everyone else, and most important, player skill or class do not make the difference in zergs. The fights are sooo un-even number-wise 90% of the time, that the one with more people wins.

WvW roaming/small grp, Spvp, Tpvp and PvE (top lvl fracs/dungs), rangers rule.

People “hate” rangers in general, because 90% of the rangers rolled the class for longbow. I’m playing for quite some time, and I havn’t seen a pug ranger swaping weapons during fight (LB all the way), and usually running with a tank pet and signets.
So yes, none wants bearbows in their group.

My main is ranger and I do not invite other rangers in my groups, not because the class sucks, but because people will play it in a way that they will offer nothing to the group.

Prysin.8542:

Straegen.2938:

Prysin.8542:

Straegen.2938:

Listening to the live stream sounds like the Ranger is getting some big ole nerfs. Fixing Empathetic Bond is a big one for some Rangers..

Havent used EB yet. It is counterproductive to the class itself. Another crime among rangers. One which never seem to go away and affect us hard in WvW.

If pet = ~40% of our DPS then why should we use traits that will kill the pet???
EB = -40% DPS….

Wilderness Survival is one of the better thought out Ranger trait lines. All the minor traits are good (25% more endurance, protection on dodge and 10% more damage when health over 90%). EB is also one of the best method of reliable condi clear (until they fix it anyway). Condition builds also get a boost going down this line.

The 0/0/30/15/25 condi/bunker build is still a decent build at least compared to other Ranger builds.

here’s a secret: Bark Skin works on ALL types of damage…..

Wait, condition damage too? Usually that kind of thing works only on direct damage.

Straegen.2938:

Prysin.8542:

here’s a secret: Bark Skin works on ALL types of damage…..

3 conditions removed every 10s versus 50% damage reduction under 25% health. Bark Skin isn’t bad but EB keeps you from getting there. EB also removes stacks of conditions throughout a fight which can be substantially more damage removal than Bark Skin. EB also includes Fear, Chill, Immobilize, Cripple, Weakness and Vuln. Most importantly EB covers a regen rangers biggest weakness, conditions. Regen rangers can manage direct damage far better than condi damage.

The downside of Bark Skin is that it only comes into play on hits when a player is less than 25%. All damage above that is 100% even if it dips them well below 25% health. For example if a player has a 23k health pool (around 6k threshold) and they get hit for 5k when their health is at 7k. They are at 2k so only the remaining 2k is actually under Bark Skin protection. This is why a player can get throttled even with this skill.

3 conditions are not removed but moved onto the pet. Which dies instantly.

Also, regen ranger uses shouts. Simply using Rune of the Solider will help a long way to make up for the lack of condition shuffling done by EB.

ArchonWing.9480:

here’s a secret: Bark Skin works on ALL types of damage…..

Wait, condition damage too? Usually that kind of thing works only on direct damage. [/quote]

yes, apparently, or atleast burning and bleeding. Was fighting a engineer, and i noticed that once i dropped into Bark Skin threshold, the conditions stopped ticking for nearly as much. Even though he kept perma burn and bleed on me. Annoying fella, that one. It may be a coincident, but random people report the same thing. That conditions seem to be affected too. Real dedicated tests needs to be done, but at this point, i can say bleed and burn are affected, to a degree, if nothing else.