Guild Wars 2

Previous thread was closed due to unrelated posts including flaming and derailing other players. Keep this thread clean while it lasts until Friday!

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This match has probably not been the most fun experience for any side however I would like to thank those that are persevering in WvWvW even at a disadvantage. Thanks for the fun skirmishes.

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

That would make no sense at all. Ideal, and logical matchup would be
-Sanctum of Rall
-Fort Aspenwood
-Dragonbrand
(Tier 4)
Or if we manage to gain over 450k

-Eredon Terrace
-Sea of Sorrows
-Sanctum of Rall
(Tier 3)

But I’m betting on the latter matchup.

kuora.5402:

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

That would make no sense at all. Ideal, and logical matchup would be
-Sanctum of Rall
-Fort Aspenwood
-Dragonbrand
(Tier 4)
Or if we manage to gain over 450k

-Eredon Terrace
-Sea of Sorrows
-Sanctum of Rall
(Tier 3)

But I’m betting on the latter matchup.

I’d rather not get 2 more servers that got blown out…

NightFire.7563:

kuora.5402:

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

That would make no sense at all. Ideal, and logical matchup would be
-Sanctum of Rall
-Fort Aspenwood
-Dragonbrand
(Tier 4)
Or if we manage to gain over 450k

-Eredon Terrace
-Sea of Sorrows
-Sanctum of Rall
(Tier 3)

But I’m betting on the latter matchup.

I’d rather not get 2 more servers that got blown out…

I’d rather prefer SoR progressing slowly but steadily, but these are the matchups we will get.

Honestly, I’d love to go up against top tier servers and probably get our kittens handed to us.

We’d learn from it and shed our, “fair-weather” crap-stains when they see that we’re losing.

I’d be interested to see how we’d hold against a higher tier server. I wouldn’t mind a loss really if we could learn a thing or two.

kuora.5402:

NightFire.7563:

kuora.5402:

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

That would make no sense at all. Ideal, and logical matchup would be
-Sanctum of Rall
-Fort Aspenwood
-Dragonbrand
(Tier 4)
Or if we manage to gain over 450k

-Eredon Terrace
-Sea of Sorrows
-Sanctum of Rall
(Tier 3)

But I’m betting on the latter matchup.

I’d rather not get 2 more servers that got blown out…

I’d rather prefer SoR progressing slowly but steadily, but these are the matchups we will get.

Since, I was given an infraction or some other BS I now have to retype/reword what I wrote.

SoR is progressing slowly… very slowly…As you said they are. But the thing is. While SoR progresses the players get bored. Ultimately leaving PvP for some time. Thus, they become rusty and are unable to preform as well as they could had SoR been place with others that fit better into the spot.

And, it’s not just SoR. JQ, IoJ,BG NS, and SF are all shutting out the games. So why not place these servers against each other. Rather then place them against the very same type of servers that do not care as much for PvP or do not have the amount of players available at all times to successfully PvP.

NightFire.7563:

So why not place these servers against each other. Rather then place them against the very same type of servers that do not care as much for PvP or do not have the amount of players available at all times to successfully PvP.

The reason is because (and please correct me if i’m wrong as this is just my understanding) Anet has chosen to have their matchmaking system work completely automated and by the numbers with no human judgment and input being part of the process.

This along with the whole thing being based solely off past performance and not taking into account current and active WvW populations is the reason you will not see the sort of logic you detail applied to matchmaking.

We are for the most part in the dark as to what sort of data Anet has regarding WvW populations and transfers. We have seen no statement that even addresses whether they have knowledge of WvW population growth and active WvW player transfers and whether they even monitor such things.

fivekiller.1432:

NightFire.7563:

So why not place these servers against each other. Rather then place them against the very same type of servers that do not care as much for PvP or do not have the amount of players available at all times to successfully PvP.

The reason is because (and please correct me if i’m wrong as this is just my understanding) Anet has chosen to have their matchmaking system work completely automated and by the numbers with no human judgment and input being part of the process.

This along with the whole thing being based solely off past performance and not taking into account current and active WvW populations is the reason you will not see the sort of logic you detail applied to matchmaking.

We are for the most part in the dark as to what sort of data Anet has regarding WvW populations and transfers. We have seen no statement that even addresses whether they have knowledge of WvW population growth and active WvW player transfers and whether they even monitor such things.

That doesn’t seem very well thought out. As of right now SoR and everyone else listed in my previous post, are overkilling. And when you look at where they are ranked. It easily shows how off the ranking system is. This will cause problems much later in the game if it isn’t corrected.

On a side note: The reason we aren’t talking to much about the current fight between SoR, Yaks, and GoM in this thread. Is because nothing is going on. GoM and Yaks caught a few places here and there, but SoR quickly caught it all back. It’s basically set on repeat from there.

Isredel.4302:

Honestly, I’d love to go up against top tier servers and probably get our kittens handed to us.

We’d learn from it and shed our, “fair-weather” crap-stains when they see that we’re losing.

I kinda have to agree.
Some transferred for the long haul, and others not.
Time to find out who did what.

Well SoR should not celebrate just yet. Whatever guild jumped to their server will just jump to another on friday, and SoR will get their kitten handed to them. Mark my words.

Nanorin.9285:

Well SoR should not celebrate just yet. Whatever guild jumped to their server will just jump to another on friday, and SoR will get their kitten handed to them. Mark my words.

At that point that guild should probably be forced to disband.

Not a fan of this ’my server is more holy than thou server’ attitude. I was on IOJ when they got spanked by ET 3 weeks ago while Ruin was still there. They jad packed it in and quit playing by Sunday just like everyone else.

There are fair weather players on every server.

Nanorin.9285:

Well SoR should not celebrate just yet. Whatever guild jumped to their server will just jump to another on friday, and SoR will get their kitten handed to them. Mark my words.

That’s if our past successes, not necessarily wins (not this week, but the previous 3) can be attributed to transfers. The guilds and people who have made those happen are waiting patiently out of WvW for this match to end, I think we all do.

What will make us lose, and any server really, are bots. In each borderland today, during prime-time, I saw at least, to my count 8-12 bots. In Sanctum Skritt area/Lake, and in the other’s Lakes.

That’s 8-12 people who aren’t doing supply runs, setting siege, paying for upgrades, defending i.e. playing WvW. It might not sound like a big number it can have a big impact on our future matches.

Nanorin.9285:

Well SoR should not celebrate just yet. Whatever guild jumped to their server will just jump to another on friday, and SoR will get their kitten handed to them. Mark my words.

I would be happy if SoR gets rid of all the bandwagon guilds that came to us

Speaking of crap-stain xfers. I was informed that a guild on our side went over to Yaks Bend and tried to poach people out of their server.

I’d like to let the people of Yaks Bend know that we do not condone this. As a matter of fact, VR is nothing more than a crap-stain on SoR. They lied as you can see from the screenshot below as, “100% Sanctum of Rall” as their guild leader says it in Yak’s Bend’s server. VR is not representative of our server in the least bit and it angers me to see something like this happen.

Texas Longhorn spams all the time in every zone I’ve seen him. I wouldn’t touch that guild with a 6 foot pole.

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

So wait…you’re sitting on our stairs…sometimes with 20+ people and occasionally even siege…and you want us to come out? Why would we? Sorry…I’m going to stand there until someone foolishly comes into my kill zone and take my free badges thankyouverymuch!

That is pretty despicable behaviour. Your opponent is already down, you don’t need to spit in his face. This also goes for camping spawn with siege on an enemy that is already utterly defeated. Not only does it lack class, but it also kills the potential of getting any good fights going.

I hope that SoR goes up against a tough server next week that smacks us around. Not only to tame a few egos, but also because I want to WvW. Fully dominating the enemy does not provide the opportunity to WvW.

NightFire.7563:

Eliandal.8735:

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

So wait…you’re sitting on our stairs…sometimes with 20+ people and occasionally even siege…and you want us to come out? Why would we? Sorry…I’m going to stand there until someone foolishly comes into my kill zone and take my free badges thankyouverymuch!

And this is why that server should be nuked. If you baddies want to continue being bad, I suggest jumping off cliffs in non WvW. Otherwise, get out of that zone and fight. Cause SoR is bored just sitting at your gate till Yaks or your “Zerg” come from behind and wipe a party of 5. That apparently was able to hold off a group of 10+ that had the Determined buff.

I would appreciate it if you do not insult our competition and risk getting this thread locked again.

I would also appreciate it if you showed better sportsmanship than this. Right now, SoR is kinda getting a bad rep from all the crap sportsmanship and that’s not how we conduct ourselves.

Isredel.4302:

NightFire.7563:

Eliandal.8735:

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

So wait…you’re sitting on our stairs…sometimes with 20+ people and occasionally even siege…and you want us to come out? Why would we? Sorry…I’m going to stand there until someone foolishly comes into my kill zone and take my free badges thankyouverymuch!

And this is why that server should be nuked. If you baddies want to continue being bad, I suggest jumping off cliffs in non WvW. Otherwise, get out of that zone and fight. Cause SoR is bored just sitting at your gate till Yaks or your “Zerg” come from behind and wipe a party of 5. That apparently was able to hold off a group of 10+ that had the Determined buff.

I would appreciate it if you do not insult our competition and risk getting this thread locked again.

I would also appreciate it if you showed better sportsmanship than this. Right now, SoR is kinda getting a bad rep from all the crap sportsmanship and that’s not how we conduct ourselves.

coming from the guy calling people on his own server crap stains? because you think its “your” server and other people cant come play there? your attitude is poor. Before you give people a lecture on how to conduct themselves you should probably learn to conduct yourself a bit better.

jorix.2908:

Isredel.4302:

NightFire.7563:

Eliandal.8735:

NightFire.7563:

Hopefully, they will set SoR BlackGate and Jade Quarry…

As for now. Yaks need to get the kitten together. Or at least grow some nuts and stop standing next to the invulnerability zone. And that goes for GoM too. Both of which can do very well when they want to. And make for some epic PvP fights.

So wait…you’re sitting on our stairs…sometimes with 20+ people and occasionally even siege…and you want us to come out? Why would we? Sorry…I’m going to stand there until someone foolishly comes into my kill zone and take my free badges thankyouverymuch!

And this is why that server should be nuked. If you baddies want to continue being bad, I suggest jumping off cliffs in non WvW. Otherwise, get out of that zone and fight. Cause SoR is bored just sitting at your gate till Yaks or your “Zerg” come from behind and wipe a party of 5. That apparently was able to hold off a group of 10+ that had the Determined buff.

I would appreciate it if you do not insult our competition and risk getting this thread locked again.

I would also appreciate it if you showed better sportsmanship than this. Right now, SoR is kinda getting a bad rep from all the crap sportsmanship and that’s not how we conduct ourselves.

coming from the guy calling people on his own server crap stains? because you think its “your” server and other people cant come play there? your attitude is poor. Before you give people a lecture on how to conduct themselves you should probably learn to conduct yourself a bit better.

I spoke of the fair-weather server-hoppers who transfer to our server for selfish reasons. Those who will most likely leave the moment they see that our server is losing, and another guild for transferring to Yaks Bend in order to spam their recruitment messages there while trying to represent SoR. People who only hinder our server and dishonor the man it was named after. Do not tell me that I have a poor attitude.

Akinorix.5107:

Nanorin.9285:

Well SoR should not celebrate just yet. Whatever guild jumped to their server will just jump to another on friday, and SoR will get their kitten handed to them. Mark my words.

I would be happy if SoR gets rid of all the bandwagon guilds that came to us

Daboss here, commander of Wv3 for Tempest Wolves formerly of Jade Quarry. Just would like to say that we know first hand what out of control transfers can do to a server and it’s not our intention to bring that type of environment to SoR. JQ changed with the times and ruined alot of guilds play experience so we made the researched choice to move to SoR.

We are far from “Bandwagon” as we came from the #1 NA server to the 14th, that isn’t proper usage of the word. SoR has been very welcoming to the guilds that transfered here, you’ve gotten JQ’s original foundation… the one’s that ran the borderland that would beat hod at its prime. Irony, Knights of White Wolf, Dawn Eternal, Tempest Wolves, Exitium, Final Dawn, Lords of Corruption, Fate and others guilds and not to mention a handful of solo players that enjoyed the type of Wv3 experience that we collectively brought. I ask that you give us a chance, as we are all very experienced guilds that have been around MMO’s for years, and we all bring a high level of skill to what ever we do.

When we transfered here from JQ (at noon pst saturday) Yaks had a dominate lead of 25k+ and plenty of screenshots on these forums boasting to Yak’s early victory. Before we made the call we looked at prior weeks match ups, who was on this community (Hi vigilance alliance that originally planned to roll with us on JQ) and the queue time break down from A.net. SoR had a perfect foundation and it’s our intention to work with whats here to build a SoR that is inclusive for all. You had little to no queues at our collective guilds “prime time” and yes, this week you’ve had long queues… but once the matches are competitive queues will even out and it’ll still be much better then sitting in JQ queues for 2-3+ hours with requeueing.

We recognize the hard work and long hours that all the native SoR members put into making the community special. People are on edge right now because SoR is entering into an era of unknown as far as community and competition and it’s human nature to fear the unknown. Friday will bring new blood to spill and i think we’ll be just fine.

Daboss – Tempest Wolves

And TW is more than welcome to stay! I don’t mind transfers that come and stick around for the long haul. I love those guilds! I mind those individuals who transfer only to join a winning side and then leave the moment the, “weather” starts to get rainy.

We are NOT progressing slowing…you could say we were, but at this time with all those xferred guilds, and some from JQ. We can say the SoR today is different, maybe we can handle tier 3, maybe we can handle SoS. Let’s see if we can…next week.

So the truth comes out. SoR gained not one but 8+ guilds not even counting tag alongs… when they were behind… and want people to believe they had no affect on this week? What a joke.

Pendragon.8735:

So the truth comes out. SoR gained not one but 8+ guilds not even counting tag alongs… when they were behind… and want people to believe they had no affect on this week? What a joke.

It’s affected the match to the point where it’s not fun. However, SoR was winning before everyone transferred, and I didn’t see THAT many more people until we came back from behind and had quite a good lead.

Once we had a solid lead in this matchup the number of people we had just became ridiculous. Hour long queues, and all borderlands with a queue. Compared to the numbers pvp’ing from Gates of Madness and Yak’s it was just a zerg fest.

Not fun for either side imo.

Kuthos.9623:

It’s affected the match to the point where it’s not fun. However, SoR was winning before everyone transferred

You must have missed this part.

Daboss.4682:

When we transfered here from JQ (at noon pst saturday) Yaks had a dominate lead of 25k+ and plenty of screenshots on these forums boasting to Yak’s early victory.

But whatever, this week is borked and has been. Good luck wherever you end up.

SoR would have rallied back against Yak’s Bend regardless of transfers after coming off the win from the week before. The score would have been much closer and a lot more fun. But they wouldn’t have “stomped” us or anything.

When they were ahead, queue times were still not that bad. Now they’re just atrocious.

I agree with everything in your post. Shame really.

Most players just want a close match. And tbh, I’d rather have one in the middle tier than top because queues are much shorter, if there are any. Especially since there isn’t any tangible reward for winning. Not even reputation since server identify means nothing with all the constant transfers. And SoR’s queues are likely only going to get worse.

Let’s not let this thread deteriorate and get locked like the last.
Kitten happens, it’s time for all of us to accept it and move on with blades out, not in.

Hey Sanctum,

I’m on GOM and I just wanted to say it was fun playing tonight with some of you.

Sure we were outnumbered but it was still fun and a good workout. Hope we kept you from being bored.

GoM here, just wanted to say a few things.

To the people on SoR in [EPIC] thanks for putting the word out and letting me get some badges killing bots in the lake. You are good people. To the two random yaks bend who helped, sorry I didn’t catch your names, still you people are okay in my book.

Perhaps one day when the WvWvW system isn’t horribly flawed our servers will meet again. I would enjoy another fight against you guys where it doesn’t descend into steam rolling.

I don’t think server transfers determined this week’s outcome. SoR was in the lead from day 1 if I recall. All the transfers did was completely ruin this week by creating a total steamroll zergfest.

Now you get stupid queue times on SoR and 2 other completely demoralized enemies who don’t even want to bother by the end of the week.

If transfers were under control SoR may still have won but I think all 3 sides would be enjoying some good fights and these posts would look a lot different.

I’m on GoM btw

We weren’t in the lead from day one. Well, we got smashed for the first 12-18 hours. I was only online Friday night from about 11:45pm till about 1:30am Saturday morning, hungover from drinking and WvW the night before. Yaks were leading by about 20k when I logged off at 1:30am. When I came back online at 11:45pm on Saturday night we were on our way to taking back our borderlands, with Miasmic, Alpacca and Myself commanding separate raids (IDK what happened on the other maps) and the score was flipped.

Daboss.4682:

We recognize the hard work and long hours that all the native SoR members put into making the community special. People are on edge right now because SoR is entering into an era of unknown as far as community and competition and it’s human nature to fear the unknown. Friday will bring new blood to spill and i think we’ll be just fine.

Daboss – Tempest Wolves

Welcome to the server. Let’s Waaaagh.

Yak’s was leading for a bit but it was clear that SoR was gaining ground fast. I might have been 1 day off. My point is that there would have been (and probably still would be now) good fights to be had and MUCH closer scores. Perhaps Yak’s and SoR would have flipped scores a couple more times…maybe GoM would have pulled into second… who knows? The massive amount of band wagoners you got ruined any hope of that.

Please do not post personal attacks on this thread, for it’s against the code of conduct and totally irrelevant. I saw one or two, and I don’t want this thread locked out again.

Thanks!

I for one welcome our new Ex-JQ homies. Although some guilds may feel threatened by the presence of a new dominant force stealing their personal thunder, I think having more power on our server can only lead to more victories.

I think I speak for all of FL when I say welcome to the server, and we look forward to shedding more blood with you in the weeks to come. Please do not feel unwelcome by the angry words of a few people with fragile egos.

Many thanks for the loot, xp and badges from the SoR players last night in the GoM borderlands – I actually had to take breaks to clear out my inventory a few times during the night as your generous donations were simply overwhelming the capacity of my bags. Ignoring the score and the map for the last two nights has made the game much less stressful and far more enjoyable.

And I do apologize for targeting that precious white tiger Charr guardian last night over and over again. You just made a really big, and tasty, target.

I need a few more badges and a level or two more would be nice, so as we appreciate your tourist business in the GoM borderlands we would like to invite you back for a final night of murder and muggings.

Cheers!

Waterbear.2764:

GoM here, just wanted to say a few things.

To the people on SoR in [EPIC] thanks for putting the word out and letting me get some badges killing bots in the lake. You are good people. To the two random yaks bend who helped, sorry I didn’t catch your names, still you people are okay in my book.

Perhaps one day when the WvWvW system isn’t horribly flawed our servers will meet again. I would enjoy another fight against you guys where it doesn’t descend into steam rolling.

Aw thanks GoM.. hope you killed all of those bots! ( Too bad they return like every 5 mins.) Go [EPIC]!

Just wanted to introduce myself. I’m the Tempest Wolves guild leader and one of our commanders.

We are looking forward to working with the SoR originals and help build on what you’ve already done.

Yes, we’re new to the server and it’s human nature to fear the unknown, and I know it seems like we are intruders in your home, but we are here to help make it better the best way we know how.

SoR has for the most part been most welcoming and we appreciate that, yes there has been a lot of negativity to our arrival but we are hoping once you give us a fair chance and run with us, you will appreciate what we can bring to the table.

As far as the facts of this matchup in particular, we came over Saturday morning/afternoon when SoR was about 26-7k down. Soon as we came over, we jumped into WvW and took the orb and all 3 keeps in Yak’s BL, then moved to EB and started the work on SM and everything there. While people may blame the turn around on us, we were only present in 2 of the borderlands on Saturday, so it wasn’t just us, it was a collective team effort on everyone’s part to bring a 30k deficit back, which is no easy feat.

And as for the running up of this score, it was never our intention to demoralize. But in fact, after we turned around the score, we saw that if we could maintain above 600PPT for at least 15 hours a day, we could go from 2nd place tier 5 to 3rd place tier 3 and we would be able to skip tier 4 completely. And it looks like it’s going to happen.

I’m excited to be in our new home and hopefully people realize we are sincere in our efforts and we are here for the long haul.

Look forward to working with everyone.

It isn’t any guild in particular – it is all of them combined. Nobody has ever heard of any of you before. The only time I have ever seen your name is when you guys repeat it in every SoR post. Your egos are the reason you keep thinking people are talking about your unheard of guilds.

Sorry you couldn’t cut it in the big leagues.

Thank you for your kind words and welcoming attitude.

Hello everyone! Have a great day today and goodluck in WvWvW. Looking forward to some fun fights.

Thanks,

It isn’t any guild in particular – it is all of them combined. Nobody has ever heard of any of you before. The only time I have ever seen your name is when you guys repeat it in every SoR post. Your egos are the reason you keep thinking people are talking about your unheard of guilds.
Sorry you couldn’t cut it in the big leagues.

Ask the guild that created the server, all former enemies/allies of a great community.

As a server, Sanctum of Rall is an awesome place with a very nice story, a testament to how some of the ANet people are very community-minded.

In game on the battlefield, I can assure you there’s no talk of vindictiveness or trying to ruin anyone’s fun (except the bots).

I think every player, no matter the server, just wants to have fun.

Just sharing a screenshot of what it was like yesterday night on Yak’s Bend Borderlands (I’m from YB.)

GoM controlled nothing on the map. YB held only Godsword supply camp (North camp) fairly reliably. After the keep fell, we basically alternated between capturing Longview and Cliffside towers for a good little bit while the golem parade was in trasit between the two. I don’t know the exact golem count, but there were at least 10 at this point.

Honestly, I thought this was one of the most glorious things I had seen in game yet. My few guildmates and I had just finished commending our defensive effort for holding the zerg off at Cliffside after the gate was broken… and then we saw the golems. I can’t, with any honesty, say I wouldn’t do the same thing were I in that situation. But admittedly, it does kind of break the spirit a little bit.

That all being said, I had a blast, mostly from the small victories along the way. You win some, you lose some. But I look forward to the next match. >.>;