Guild Wars 2

There are flaws in WvW via 1v1 imbalance but beyond that there is a flaw with WvW. What is this flaw? That’s simple, there is ZERO incentive to play the mode.

In most cases people use WvW to level up alt’s or just to waste time. There are groups of people that like to set up GvG’s or 5v5’s to see who’s havoc team is better. Their is also a small group of people who jump into WvW solo an roam to put their micro skills to the test. The final group of people are just those that like to clump up as a big ball and take towers.

The 1 major flaw with all of these is there is ZERO incentive to play the mode at all. There is zero in-game reward for getting 1st place in your matchup or even 1st place against all the servers.

In general WvW is more like a FPS. You log in to kill lower skilled people for an hour or two and then log off. The problem? This is an mmo where the whole point of the game is to never be finished building your character and you get rewards for being good/skilled.

In fact, there are more rewards for being good in a modern FPS game than there are for being good in WvW.

They gave us WvW Ranks but these ranks mean absolutely nothing. It only shows how much time you’ve logged into WvW. The ranks do not show how skilled you are and give little to no benefit to your character.

I understand that this game was built as a F2P game and that they must make money via Instant Gratification with the Gem Store. However I will list some simple incentives they could put into the game that at least give us a carrot to chase.

1. WvW finishers. They put SPvP finishers into the game based on Rank. I see no reason why they can’t do the same for WvW. It’s simple and these finishers could be WvW themed, example “A Finisher that summons a Tower Cannon that blasts the Opponent into the ground”

2. Weapons Skins. Since this game is all about looking cool why not give us WvW weapon skins that look just as good as legendaries once you hit a certain rank or as super rare drops.

3. Armor Skins. Read point 2.

4. Put in WvW Legendaries. This is the really kittene as I believe to earn a legendary in WvW should be Skill based so ranks would have to be reworked to show skill instead of time sink.

I will go one step forward and say that this game lacks incentive to log in as a whole. Their is no carrot to follow/chase. Here is what I’m talking about.
1. Buy Game
2. Level First Character to Max
3. Dungeon/Buy Exotic Armor/Wep/Trink
4. Grind Daylie Quest for Ascended Trinks
5. Repeat for Alt’s

If you are not going to give us a new Tier of armor or weapon this game just slowly loses the reason to log in. Yes Ascended Armor is a higher tier but when the increase is only 1 or 2 points of a certain stat with a month of farming its not an upgrade its a joke.

At the very least if it takes the same time to craft a full set of Ascended Armor as it takes to Farm a legendary then Give the Ascended Armor the same property as Legendaries ie. Can change the stat type at any time, Or do the right thing and give it significant stat increases.

If you agree or disagree with the statements above all I ask is we keep it classy.

That funny i play WvW to have fun and show that my server is the best and i don’t care about rewards at all (mind you getting Howl from a random player kill was very nice) i play the mode because of server pride and how fun it is.

Er..

1. buy game
2. get to level 2
3. fight in WvW
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still doing number 3 and still having a blast in t2

Barquiel.5610:

There are flaws in WvW via 1v1 imbalance but beyond that there is a flaw with WvW. What is this flaw? That’s simple, there is ZERO incentive to play the mode.

There still are some people who play the game mode, but only because of the server communities that has developed. You want to see ZERO incentive, just take a look at EoTM.

There was a major motivation behind playing in the beginning, server pride. But with bad handling of the transfer system, national servers imbalance, removal of matchup thread and initial rush of the release to become the best, the game is very stale, at least in EU.
Since server pride was hard to maintain I think many replaced it with guild pride/gvg.

I disagree with your opinion.
For me and for most of my guildies the real incentive to play WvW is in outplaying others, pushing the best of us and relying on skill and coordination to beat others.
Having a epic fight with a guild with same or more numbers than ours/ or wiping zone blob brings more fun than getting a precursor drop.

Though, I do have to say that whenever I need to get better looking gear/better stats/etc I farm PvE and do living story.

My incentive for playing WvW is that I find it fun. If you don’t, then don’t play it. There are plenty of people who have fun with it. Personally, I prefer WvW over any other aspect of the game.

And World AP traits give “little to no benefit to your character”? News to me.

WvW most definitely lacks motivation outside of Tournaments, and even the Tournament rewards are meh. More so actual objective play lacks rewards such as sentrying, yak walking and other VERY thankless but ultimately needed jobs.

Maybe this is nitpicking, but there are some WvW weapon and armor skins, they are just plain and have been around awhile. Then there are the mistforged ones. And while it is quite small, winning servers get extra rank up chests.

The problem is if you start rewarding too much for winning your match up in WvW, then you start creating an imbalance between servers. For example, if the first place server in seasons got ascended gear, you just made the best server slightly better.

A better solution would be rewarding based off a glicko score. So that way even if a server that’s getting blasted by another in a higher tier, they can get something for putting up a solid fight. Maybe if your server gets 30+ glicko points in a week, the whole server gets 5 gold or something, as an example.

I played this game since launch and you should know that WvW is downright lucrative compared to how it used to be. No rank up chests, little gold, no champ bags. Just blues and greens mostly back then.

I do agree though that more armor and weapon skins wouldn’t hurt anybody.

You make some points, dude. I’d love to see some finishers as well. However, in general I think you’re just being ungrateful. We can make some decent gold in WvW, and since that’s just about the currency needed for everything, it’s fine by me. And of course you can earn your laurels as well.

this whole post is basically “The Major Flaw of Video Games.” nearly everything would apply to every other game. in the end, all you’re doing is running around gathering shinies or training your skills to get better at the game, whichever you’re having fun doing, regardless of what’s being played.

also, the lack of a gear treadmill is exactly WHY I play guild wars 2 over every other mmo. if I “needed” ascended gear to preform competetively, then 3 months later needed “Uber Ascended” I would honestly quit playing. I don’t feel like grinding ascended, let alone doing it twice or more a year

(that being said, I would like wvw finishers/more wvw exclusive armor sets)

Incentive for WvW? I like killing folk.