…everything [skills/traits] will be unlocked by spending Hero Points on these new reward tracks.
Hero Points will be limited, and they’ll be earned strictly through what are currently called skill challenges (these will become known as hero challenges) and leveling up. A level 80 character that’s done none of the hero challenges should be able to unlock more than enough skills, specializations, and traits to make several unique full builds. A single character who’s done a fair amount of the hero challenges should be able to unlock all of the core specializations, skills, and traits.
Now maybe I misunderstood something (lacking english skills, not enough skill points to unlock it!), but..
If you play only wvw from lvl 1 ( which is possibe, with lvl-up tomes you don’t even have to play sub-80 characters), you can’t get every skill and every trait?
Isn’t that just… not fair?
We have a few skill challenges, but compared to the pve ones, you can’t call this number “a fair amount” (and the fair amount is still only the pre-HoT skills/traits). So if you want to experiment with builds in WvW, you have to play more PvE.
I hope you can point out where did I misunderstand what Anet said, as I see a pretty sad future now.
“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140
Not read the above links, but come on already, since when has there been an update or patch which improved WvW?!
With the new trait system already we have to do PvE to unlock traits, or spend gold on them.
To me, WvW is something it seems Anet has regretted creating and wish it to go away. 3 years and we finally get one new map, but how that map helps WvW we will not know until it is out.
But one thing is sure, they want more PvE.
Put it this way, if they really cared, then they wouldnt force us to waste hours creating superior siege which are used up within minutes!
If they really cared they would make superior siege creation into a crafting recipe.
The future is not sad far from it. Well it is but not for PVE players and let’s face it there are no WvW players.
If you didn’t notice whit the last trait changes where you need to do some pointless stuff at Pve they wont bother makeing effort for such things at WvW again.
Besides WvW get’s new BL and siege bubbule thingy. Why you even post here you know this is like death vally beyond that 100 km wide mined zone for devs to post smthing here.
Might as well go chake that magical crystal ball or shake Nation and c what comes out.
Not read the above links, but come on already, since when has there been an update or patch which improved WvW?!
With the new trait system already we have to do PvE to unlock traits, or spend gold on them.
To me, WvW is something it seems Anet has regretted creating and wish it to go away. 3 years and we finally get one new map, but how that map helps WvW we will not know until it is out.
But one thing is sure, they want more PvE.
Put it this way, if they really cared, then they wouldnt force us to waste hours creating superior siege which are used up within minutes!
If they really cared they would make superior siege creation into a crafting recipe.
Not saying I disagree, but at least so far we had a way to get them in theory (if you somehow got gold from wvw.. miracles like getting a precursor happens sometimes..), but now it seems like we don’t even have a hard-way to avoid pve.
“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140
A lot of builds are set up in such a way atm that they are getting + from every thing they are taking so you can have ppl go full ptv and still have good healing due to how there traits are set up (mostly the healing). After the update a lot of builds like this are going to become a bit weaker in terms of being well rounded. At the same time it should let ppl start to make very well aimed builds for task.
Ele is a good example most eles go 6 in water for the traits but they get a lot of hp and healing. Now with the changes ele going to lose this healing and some of the base hp they work with there gear. So ele may need to gear up in such a way to have a bit of healing and more hp. What this may work out is that ele could lose dmg if not set up right.
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Not read the above links, but come on already, since when has there been an update or patch which improved WvW?!
There have been a great very many. Removing the orb aspect in EB for one. Tones of positive siege changes. WvW rank points systems. The list goes on and on.
Well, we will see with the trait revamp. If it introduces a new interesting build to work towards, it’s all good.
However, if I need to do major grinding for another ascended set to just get back to what I had before, I just don’t have it in me to do that. That also includes doing whatever to get back the traits that are still here and I had before the update.
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Pretty sure I saw you in CM for a few hours the last few days Gobbes =P
To be honest if you could just do certain skill challenges in a few zones and be done then it wouldn’t be so bad but I doubt that. I really don’t understand everyone’s aversion to PvE, especially as it seems to be account wide from what I read. Suck it up, do it once then never go back.
Here’s an idea though, once per day you can get a hero point from killing the overgrown grub in EB =D
Wait, wait… you’re mad because upscalers will be at a disadvantage in WvW?
Well, they also never stated that upscalers won’t be able to access all this stuff. Right now they go into WvW, then get all that stuff when artificially leveled, right? Since they never specified WvW in the post, should be safe to say this method will stay the same. They probably won’t get the Elite Specializations, but besides that it’s likely upscalers will be able to access everything same as always.
Wait, wait… you’re mad because upscalers will be at a disadvantage in WvW?
Well, they also never stated that upscalers won’t be able to access all this stuff. Right now they go into WvW, then get all that stuff when artificially leveled, right? Since they never specified WvW in the post, should be safe to say this method will stay the same. They probably won’t get the Elite Specializations, but besides that it’s likely upscalers will be able to access everything same as always.
Well, my assumption, of course.
If it’s an answer for my post, then no, I don’t care about upscaled ppl. But if lvl 80, only-wvw characters can’t have access to every trait/skill which we have already (so no HoT), then.. And yes, as I understood it will be this way.
From dulfy:
Hero Points – You get some from leveling (400 pts). Old skill challenge will give you them as well (220 pts in total). You ned 465 to get everything so you just need to do 65 skill challenges to get all the core ones (not elite). Anyone who has world completion completed will have more than enough.
This issue has been raised in several threads; as I said there:
All 8 of my characters were created shortly after launch (pre-NPE) but about half were leveled almost exclusively in WvW (or EoTM more recently, a couple languished at low levels for years). Their skills were unlocked by additional levels of XP beyond 80 and skill point scrolls.
Due to a lack of PvE/world exploration on those characters, when the new system comes out they will not have enough ‘hero points’ to unlock all of the 5 trait lines + all skills which I have unlocked right now.
Anet needs to provide some extra hero points for grandfathered characters so that players who have earned their unlocks through non-PvE methods aren’t screwed. Make the boost proportional to the % of traits & skills unlocked at expansion release.
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This issue has been raised in several threads; as I said there:
All 8 of my characters were created shortly after launch (pre-NPE) but about half were leveled almost exclusively in WvW (or EoTM more recently, a couple languished at low levels for years). Their skills were unlocked by additional levels of XP beyond 80 and skill point scrolls.
Due to a lack of PvE/world exploration on those characters, when the new system comes out they will not have enough ‘hero points’ to unlock all of the 5 trait lines + all skills which I have unlocked right now.
Anet needs to provide some extra hero points for grandfathered characters so that players who have earned their unlocks through non-PvE methods aren’t screwed. Make the boost proportional to the % of traits & skills unlocked at expansion release.
While i agree they need to, I’m not 100% convinced they will.
:(
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Good that ppl realised this( anet don’t care about WvW) now and not later, still it took 3 years for some Since they didn’t say a thing about refunds for traits that we bought i think they are not gonna care about skill points too as long as majority(70% – PvE) of players will be happy ^^ Cos why to implement more skill points into WvW( like 1 in every tower for…idk…maybe picking a sand and covering u with it to show ur influence to specific place) or just let us buy hero points with BoH. It’s too hard to think about WvWers a bit, expecially now when we lack WvW specialists( I would like to take a position myself but…no EU players ^^ such discimination ^^).
This issue has been raised in several threads; as I said there:
All 8 of my characters were created shortly after launch (pre-NPE) but about half were leveled almost exclusively in WvW (or EoTM more recently, a couple languished at low levels for years). Their skills were unlocked by additional levels of XP beyond 80 and skill point scrolls.
Due to a lack of PvE/world exploration on those characters, when the new system comes out they will not have enough ‘hero points’ to unlock all of the 5 trait lines + all skills which I have unlocked right now.
Anet needs to provide some extra hero points for grandfathered characters so that players who have earned their unlocks through non-PvE methods aren’t screwed. Make the boost proportional to the % of traits & skills unlocked at expansion release.
While i agree they need to, I’m not 100% convinced they will.
:(
If they dont they will face a backlash on the order of Nov 2012
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Since they didn’t say a thing about refunds for traits that we bought i think they are not gonna care about skill points too as long as majority(70% – PvE) of players will be happy ^^ Cos why to implement more skill points into WvW( like 1 in every tower for…idk…maybe picking a sand and covering u with it to show ur influence to specific place) or just let us buy hero points with BoH. It’s too hard to think about WvWers a bit, expecially now when we lack WvW specialists( I would like to take a position myself but…no EU players ^^ such discimination ^^).