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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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-WvW Guilds from a server is required to register their guild on the npc every matchup

-Non Wvw guilds/ non registered guilds when entering a WvW map will be randomly moved to a server to balance the skirmish on any tier/matchup

-Players not representing the registered WvW guild or not representing a guild on that matchup will be moved to a different server to balance the man power per skirmish.

-F2P accounts are limited to EoTM

-WvW guild that is registered on server A but the guild member player is on server B will be randomly moved to a different skirmish matchup

-Server has a cap 50 players per server per map

-A hall/monument on PvP and on cities Lion’s Arch where we can see guilds registered on a server, this also serves as the recruitment guide for each server guilds.

-Registered Guilds can now queue 10v10 up to 30v30 on obsidian sanctum vs other guilds from every other server (all tiers) during a skirmish, this will give points on warscore

geegee Anet
geegee Tiers
geegee Bandwagon Servers

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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:-). Guild wars.
But i do´t like the register on efry matchup. It must be a free jump in for everyone even if guildless.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

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:-). Guild wars.
But i do´t like the register on efry matchup. It must be a free jump in for everyone even if guildless.

For what I understand, if you don’t register you get randomly assigned to a team in order to make up balance. Registering means to choose which team you want to play for (if that matter for you).

What I don’t see in this proposal is what happen to large PvX guilds that have a small core that do WvW? I mean, a 300man guild that have 20-30 players who do WvW regularly cannot take up 300 slots. But they also cannot only take 30 because other players from outside the core might also want to play WvW. What’s the proposal for those?

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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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its not a free jump, you will be moved to a certain server (think of it as a map instance) when you enter WvW as a reinforcement on a server (yours or not yours) by the system on every skirmish period (2 hours? depends on the current WvW situation/population at that time), your guild is residing in example anvil rock you just register to your guild on the anvil rock and no other servers (same as “we are beasty guild who is residing in X server” type of advertisement in team chat), what is does is it lets you claim objectives upgrade it in short your guild will register to make a commitment for 1 week for your server there is no limitation on number of guilds to register as long as it resides on that server ofc the guild leader decides

about the large pvx guilds, they will be randomly fill the slots of other servers for balance if the guild doesn’t reside on a specific server or the members they have are from different servers unless they move the 300 slots to a specific server but then again there is the map cap of 50

time will tell if that cap can be increased or decreased further

edit: what it does on a registered guild?
the guild receives points at the end of the each skirmish/matchup, points that defines that guild fame, rank, category, glory, popularity
its a permanent record/achievement for that guild

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Posted by: Reh.5986

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Interesting. Could still pug around as a guildless scrub too.

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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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Interesting. Could still pug around as a guildless scrub too.

yah, the system is kind enough to let you do whatever anyone wants, but the system is strict enough to bring balance on every server

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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WvW 3.0 would lower the cap to 25 people and only allow players which have 2000 ranks and a hardcore GvG guild to join WvW, the rest get dumped into EoTM.

WvW 4.0 would remove one of the sides and make it 5v5 on small structured WvW maps.

WvW 5.0 is actually just PvE.

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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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WvW 3.0 would lower the cap to 25 people and only allow players which have 2000 ranks and a hardcore GvG guild to join WvW, the rest get dumped into EoTM.

its already on tier3 and tier4 currently, try to play outside NA time

WvW 4.0 would remove one of the sides and make it 5v5 on small structured WvW maps.

again this is already implemented way before linking, see tiers 5, 6, 7, 8
it even had the 0vs0vs0 mode back then

WvW 5.0 is actually just PvE.

there is one Grub busting guild
and there is Trump bumping guild too currently
might want to add the guild skill Emergency Call to bring PvE players to WvW

oh, here is the E-Call in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy2ctamF0XQ

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

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-Server has a cap 50 players per server per map

So that’s gonna be 45ppl zerging while you have 2 ppl afk 2 roamers and the village idiot running around.

50 limit is too small,it wont remove zerging and there will be even less to do for roamers.

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

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-WvW Guilds from a server is required to register their guild on the npc every matchup
-Non Wvw guilds/ non registered guilds when entering a WvW map will be randomly moved to a server to balance the skirmish on any tier/matchup
-Players not representing the registered WvW guild or not representing a guild on that matchup will be moved to a different server to balance the man power per skirmish.

Couple of interactions I’m curious about:

If I enter with no guild tag, get placed on Server B. And then represent a Guild that is on Server A, what happens ? :p

If you’re in 2 guilds, one on each side, Can you swap between them ? And what happens when you do ?

-F2P accounts are limited to EoTM

Don’t like, simple reason, how are we ever going to bring fresh people into WvW ? Making it exclusive is going to backfire.

I understand the idea though, no spies etc.

-WvW guild that is registered on server A but the guild member player is on server B will be randomly moved to a different skirmish matchup

Didn’t understand what you meant with this one.

-Registered Guilds can now queue 10v10 up to 30v30 on obsidian sanctum vs other guilds from every other server (all tiers) during a skirmish, this will give points on warscore

Like this one, you planned to make OS into an instance then, so there could be multiple OS in play at the same time ? In that case might as well just ask them to cut out the Arena area alone for that. (And make the rest of OS into EotM Megaserver, so you can actually find people there)


On the whole, looks interesting. That is an interesting way to take on teams and guilds, I honestly like that you can just jump it at a completely random server and see what happens, but others might dislike that part.

Having guild fame etc linked up to representing a world in WvW is interesting, and stretching that a bit further it could be a way to let WvW only guilds upgrade things through WvW later on.

Not sold on the have to re-register each week, would prefer an option to register with one world and stick to it.

You’re still linking a Guild to a Server correct?, so a guild couldn’t decide to register with another server for a week? But could not-register, and go together as a group and hope they all get to the same random server/map? Would like to see a way to stay together with guildies on this, but can imagine some tricky situations. (Hey guys, lets all 20 of us go to this dead server during night time! Uhm, why are we split up into 10 on each team? No one else here?)

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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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50 limit is too small,it wont remove zerging and there will be even less to do for roamers.

We have 24 servers on NA and 27 on EU i think its plenty enough to fit those WvW guilds
example: 2 large guilds on EB 25 each vs 5 guilds consisting of 10 man each etc etc..

If I enter with no guild tag, get placed on Server B. And then represent a Guild that is on Server A, what happens ? :p

If you’re in 2 guilds, one on each side, Can you swap between them ? And what happens when you do ?

-the placement is not limited to your own server’s matchup, its across all tiers
-you cant switch to a different guild when you entered if that guild is not registered on your server or if that guild is registered on a different server (its greyed out while you are on the map)
-however you can switch to a different guild if the guild you’ll be switching is also registered to the same matchup map server your on (for claiming purposes and other purposes like recruitment)

Don’t like, simple reason, how are we ever going to bring fresh people into WvW ? Making it exclusive is going to backfire.

I understand the idea though, no spies etc.

-we can play with them on EoTM to introduce them to WvW
-its up to them if they want the HoT upgrade or not by then

-WvW guild that is registered on server A but the guild member player is on server B will be randomly moved to a different skirmish matchup

its for the PvX guilds who have members from different server
example: your guild Republicans [Trmp] which resides on server USA, is registered to WvW USA, and one of your members who is representing [Trmp] is currently residing in Mexico server, he/she will be placed on a more needed server for balance, it may be on your server’s match up or other matchup

Like this one, you planned to make OS into an instance then, so there could be multiple OS in play at the same time ? In that case might as well just ask them to cut out the Arena area alone for that. (And make the rest of OS into EotM Megaserver, so you can actually find people there)

thats the idea, here you can also introduce your new players to open field fights aside from karma train on EoTM

your guild has an option to register any time/day of the week, but the registration to your home server will on every WvW reset (think of it as a contract), lets say your guild want to WvW this week, then next week just pve or pvp or have exams/work to do so they lack cores to wvw
registration of a guild tells your server that he has your back and will stop at nothing to defend that server for 1 week and they gather guild points from it (fame popularity etc)


forgot to mention the registration fee,
1000 badges of honor for each guild (thinking of other currency but i doubt PvE currencies)

you’ll also get 1 omega, 5 sup rams, 5 sup cata, 2 sup ac for your guild

the npc says: “Thank you for choosing X server, your guild will be of great help in this war, use these to help you on the battlefield.” lel

forgive me on this, i just want to remind Anet about the guild pride and the WvW guilds being as the ace of a certain server they are the server’s pride, let this be a reminder that WvW has a purpose, WvW is a competition, WvW is love WvW is life

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