Guild Wars 2

DeceiverX.8361:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I’m intrigued by the fact that so many players dislike outfits for the same reason they love tonics.

A lot of players dislike outfits because they can’t customize their look and/or because they dislike looking like everyone else. You can change the dyes, face and hair of your character but in a tonic form, you can change nothing.

Outfits are promoted while most tonics are not. Make something unobtainable/uninteresting for long enough, then make it shiny and new and everyone wants it?

I like the Kodan tonic don’t get me wrong, though I also never had problems with outfits. I just find it a bit ironic that so many love tonics yet I wouldn’t doubt that many of the same players hate outfits. It’s not all that different, you can change both when ever you please. One is just more commercially advertised and the other is a toy.

Because outfits don’t come with missing animations and sprites to give an advantage in combat, so naturally people won’t defend them lol.

I’m absolutely sure you’re right in some cases(maybe even most in this thread? ), but you can’t ignore that outfits don’t let you be a kodan or a ghost. Sure it’s generic but it’s the best we’re gonna get for that type of thing. Outfits on the other hand are a replacement to piece by piece things we had in the past, Brahams and the like gemstore style sets, or the town clothes that people liked, those things were lost and we got generic outfits as a replacement.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

To clarify you won’t be able to activate them while in combat.

So if you are transformed then enter combat you will not transform back to your regular model. So you can still fight as a kodan if you activate it before the fight.

I’ll lmao when someone uses a tonic without combat skills in WvW and then enters combat — free bags!

juno.1840:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

To clarify you won’t be able to activate them while in combat.

So if you are transformed then enter combat you will not transform back to your regular model. So you can still fight as a kodan if you activate it before the fight.

I’ll lmao when someone uses a tonic without combat skills in WvW and then enters combat — free bags!

Actually not really. Many players used tonics in combat (for just a second) to proc on-swap effects without leaving their current weapon set.

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To clarify you won’t be able to activate them while in combat.

So if you are transformed then enter combat you will not transform back to your regular model. So you can still fight as a kodan if you activate it before the fight.

SOooooo. Does that mean they can still spam this crap as long as they are a Kodan before they go into combat. If so, nope, wrong answer. Crashed me out again tonight, reset night. If you have a partial solution, send the update. Stop holding game/player breaking things for next big patch. Send the kitten thing. Question, what if someone is playing and they get an epileptic seizure, and DIE. Hmm, partial fix available, not yet installed.

P.S. To all talking about outfits, an other tonics. If you have not been in a large group and had someone jumping around spamming the lightening effect, you have no clue what this is doing. The other tonics and current outfits are not the problem here, it’s the effect this specific one is causing. People are using it as a troll function in WvW. A player from another server has a toon on opposing server, and does this. Players are getting DCed due to graphics error and whatnot. Or just someone wanting to be a troll. ANet, you have a fix for THIS tonic. Install it.

That’s all great and all but I’m more concerned about the balancing in WvW shouldn’t that be a prioirty I mean I’m seeing to much imbalance in WvW and not to mention 2 vs 1 in it as well, it’s really ruining the WvW Experience for me and a lot of other players.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

To clarify you won’t be able to activate them while in combat.

So if you are transformed then enter combat you will not transform back to your regular model. So you can still fight as a kodan if you activate it before the fight.

Since I have seen people abusing tonics, as stated below in a couple of posts referring to them (mushroom, watchnight et.al.) why don’t you do what one smart poster said and just remove all tonics from any AREA except spawn in WvW?

Enough of the “Avenue of Exploits”, please fix WvW so we can have skilled fights without the added “I always win!” that tonics allow now.

Please just remove them from any area except spawns in WvW. Smartest suggestion I’ve seen in ages that is doable without many ‘changes’.