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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

Currently on a 100mpbs connection – every other application and service operates at maximum speed with no problem – join WvW, all attacks have a delay of at least 3-4 seconds, I can’t even fight one other person without running to a wall and teleporting all over the place. Both tPvP and PvE don’t even have a millisecond of delay.

Even sitting at spawn with no other players around, I can’t use an attack without an immense delay.

Absolutely RIDICULOUS.

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Posted by: grifflyman.8102

grifflyman.8102

The score system and smaller maps don’t do anything to prevent Zerg tactics.

There is little reason to split your forces up if you have that big Zerg pushing around the map, with the scores only being ticked every 15 minutes and the ability to respond to any area on the map in less than 5 minutes there’s really no point in dividing forces if you’ve got a massive WvW population.

On the other hand, if you don’t have the numbers you’re forced to split up and multicap if you want to try and compete, and you end up running into the huge enemy Zerg a lot more.

The system works, but it could be more tactical.

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Posted by: Korbaal.6402

Korbaal.6402

I can honestly say. The lag for me is not that bad. When two large zerg’s clash you will always get lag, it’s unavoidable is it only certain servers that get lag then? Because dragonbrand is very stable. If you are having so much trouble on your server maybe try a server that has more stability. On Dragonbrand I experience very little lag.

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Posted by: Krakah.3582

Krakah.3582

The skill lag is mostly from the terrible timer mechanic. As much as people want to QQ to the PvP team, this is really on the shoulders of the main core dev team.

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Posted by: Thurin.5610

Thurin.5610

How come during 3 way fights in keeps I have skill lag on the other side of the map. The whole idea that it has to do with machine specs is just clueless people talking.

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Posted by: Sovta.4719

Sovta.4719

playable wvw already exists on 66% of other servers.

Well i guess it will be playable on others too when wvw population drops to 200 (by server) people average daily wvw like on 66% servers.

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Posted by: Thorson.9218

Thorson.9218

Dear OP,

Are you sure its not your computer?

Anet fixed culling a bit which increase the graphic requirements abit.

In most zerg server lag fest, fps is fine and they can 1 attack.

if you cannot 1 attack, then i wonder if it is your computer?

Post your system spec?

I think if it was my hardware I wouldn’t be able to do anything at all but I can.
My frames rarely drop below 40fps and I can jump, move and pick up stuff without a problem.

What I can’t do is use skills…so i’m pretty, pretty sure that the problem is not with me.

Ah….ok. Then I’d have to agree w/ you. In my case I couldn’t do ANYTHING, but if you can run around, etc., just no skills, it’s prolly not you.

So……why would some servers experience this while others don’t? If you assume that queues are limiting the population per map, and that limit is the same for every server, why doesn’t this happen to every server at some point (i.e. when you hit the queue limit)? Maybe the map population (and therefore queue limit) on the higher tier servers is set higher to accommodate a larger number of players, and they are reaching the limits of the code/HW???

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Posted by: DeadlySynz.3471

DeadlySynz.3471

Skill lag is terrible.. like beyond terrible. Worst I’ve seen it was a 3 way battle in the center of stone mist (on T2). Could not use any skills.. not even an auto attack. The only positive that can be derived from it is my pet seemed invulnerable. It killed several people while I just hung out on the staircase.

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Posted by: Elthurien.8356

Elthurien.8356

I just returned to GW2 after having a break due to RL commitments and I must say that T1 WvW is amazing. The adrenaline rush in those zerg vs zerg fights over SM is huge. I have rarely had skill lag since coming back. There have been skill lag during SM fights but to be honest it has greatly improved since January. I run a high end rig with all graphics settings on low (except for having models set to max shown). If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. It’s really not that hard to fathom

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Posted by: Mattargul.9235

Mattargul.9235

“My skills!! They do nothing!!”

Even in borderlands, even when the big fight is clear across the map, the lag can be ridiculous during prime time hours. Skill lag, rubber banding, you name it.

I had to switch my ground targeted skills to use fast-cast, so you only need one key to go through for your skill to go off. Of course, that highlights the issue of the cursor getting lost in the battle fireworks.

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Posted by: Swedemon.4670

Swedemon.4670

A suggestion is for ANet’s servers to detect skill lag on the clients and when it reaches a certain threshold will “throttle the server” to varying degrees. This means the server will intelligently prioritize the amount of computing on the server based on the priority of the player experience. Seeing enemy players within a closer range is a high priority for example. Seeing friendly’s outside of say a 1500 range is a lower priority outside of your commander, group or called target.

The end goal is so that the server is able to accept all of the skills each player is using in these extreme situations.

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

Furiousbeard.7602

Yup…I think that’s the best thing you can do. Already impossible when 2 servers clash (15-20 second skill lag at least). If you have all 3 servers inside SM for example you can just Alt + F4 cause even auto attacking is impossible.

I know it has been bad in the past, but this current performance is really pathethic. Just shut WvW down until your servers can handle the player numbers or limit it to 10 players per server or so…but if you let this game run like that is an insult for every player who bought this game.

Sincerely,
a WvW only player from Desolation

WvW IS playable and quite enjoyable. Maybe you need to be shut down.

You’re certainly not the only person playing and “shutting it down” because you’re unhappy is completely stupid.

Stop trolling and get a new game if you can’t handle it. Either that or find some that makes you happy and post about that.

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Posted by: Causic.3798

Causic.3798

“Just shut it down”
Please don’t speak for the rest of us, if you don’t want to WvW then don’t.
I lag like crazy in SM so guess what… I don’t go to SM. Problem solved.

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Posted by: ganeshori.6309

ganeshori.6309

Dear OP,

Are you sure its not your computer?

Anet fixed culling a bit which increase the graphic requirements abit.

In most zerg server lag fest, fps is fine and they can 1 attack.

if you cannot 1 attack, then i wonder if it is your computer?

Post your system spec?

+1

My old system, which I FINALLY got around to upgrading, was horrible in this regard. Small skirmishes (10×10×10), no worries, no lag, just good fun. Zergwars w/ 50+ per side? I’d freeze in place. Can’t move, cast, etc. 5 seconds later I’d get 1 tick of movement. Next tick I was offered to WP cause I was dead. Note that this lag would happen even if I was sitting inside the castle/keep. I KNEW when a zerg was nearby because my fps would plummet.

On my system since my upgrade (Intel i7 3770K quad core overclocked to 3.9GHz, AMD HD7850 grfx, 8GB 2133MHz DDR3, 2TB 6GB/sec SATA HDD), I avg about 90fps in all but the largest zergfests. At worst I drop down to about 30-40fps….and that’s with all settings max’d. If I wanted to improve things, I could lower my settings in those big battles (150+ on-screen), but it’s perfectly playable as-is and wow….at max settings (which I could never use before) the grfx are stunning. Note this is for both fps and skill lag….I just don’t have an issue with either now.

I wonder what on your system is giving you the ability of 90fps. Im running a 3570K clocked to 4.5 GHz, gigabyte gtx680 s.o.c., 16GB 1866 corsair dominator platinum, 250 gb samsung 840 pro ssd.

I doubt its the cpu….both seem to run pretty even in this game….wouldnt think its the cards….could it be that sweet ram yer runnin? what settings you running in-game?, size and settings of yer monitor?

Oh, and Im averaging around 70fps in slow areas….drops to around 40 to 50 with our normal FA zerging….and about 30 on reset night, where we have the actual lag issues here.

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Posted by: Liu.4751

Liu.4751

Yup…I think that’s the best thing you can do. Already impossible when 2 servers clash (15-20 second skill lag at least). If you have all 3 servers inside SM for example you can just Alt + F4 cause even auto attacking is impossible.

I know it has been bad in the past, but this current performance is really pathethic. Just shut WvW down until your servers can handle the player numbers or limit it to 10 players per server or so…but if you let this game run like that is an insult for every player who bought this game.

Sincerely,
a WvW only player from Desolation

WvW IS playable and quite enjoyable. Maybe you need to be shut down.

You’re certainly not the only person playing and “shutting it down” because you’re unhappy is completely stupid.

Stop trolling and get a new game if you can’t handle it. Either that or find some that makes you happy and post about that.

No that’s unfair to say that. Gw2 should be playable in pve and pvp on minimum requirements systems like myself, with very decent GPS at least. Annette, needs to change and so do you with your snide comments of accusing him of trolling and to shut it off. You sir are the troll which are mean creatures by nature, magically of course.
;p

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

Furiousbeard.7602

Yup…I think that’s the best thing you can do. Already impossible when 2 servers clash (15-20 second skill lag at least). If you have all 3 servers inside SM for example you can just Alt + F4 cause even auto attacking is impossible.

I know it has been bad in the past, but this current performance is really pathethic. Just shut WvW down until your servers can handle the player numbers or limit it to 10 players per server or so…but if you let this game run like that is an insult for every player who bought this game.

Sincerely,
a WvW only player from Desolation

WvW IS playable and quite enjoyable. Maybe you need to be shut down.

You’re certainly not the only person playing and “shutting it down” because you’re unhappy is completely stupid.

Stop trolling and get a new game if you can’t handle it. Either that or find some that makes you happy and post about that.

No that’s unfair to say that. Gw2 should be playable in pve and pvp on minimum requirements systems like myself, with very decent GPS at least. Annette, needs to change and so do you with your snide comments of accusing him of trolling and to shut it off. You sir are the troll which are mean creatures by nature, magically of course.
;p

Wow, another entitled child.

“Ruin other peoples experience because my pc is low end and lag happens” signed – QQ

I don’t have sympathy for you.

Were you even aware he changed the title of this thread to reduce the troll factor?

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Posted by: PsYcHoSeAn.4835

PsYcHoSeAn.4835

Too bad that it was a moderator who changed the topic of the thread and not me.

But since you are one very angry kid accusing people of “trolling” when they address a major problem of the game I don’t even know why anyone should waste his time with going deeper into your postings.

Just another hammer swinging warrior from [INVI] on Desolation.

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

Furiousbeard.7602

Too bad that it was a moderator who changed the topic of the thread and not me.

But since you are one very angry kid accusing people of “trolling” when they address a major problem of the game I don’t even know why anyone should waste his time with going deeper into your postings.

Thanks for your understanding.

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Posted by: Thorson.9218

Thorson.9218

I wonder what on your system is giving you the ability of 90fps. Im running a 3570K clocked to 4.5 GHz, gigabyte gtx680 s.o.c., 16GB 1866 corsair dominator platinum, 250 gb samsung 840 pro ssd.

I doubt its the cpu….both seem to run pretty even in this game….wouldnt think its the cards….could it be that sweet ram yer runnin? what settings you running in-game?, size and settings of yer monitor?

Oh, and Im averaging around 70fps in slow areas….drops to around 40 to 50 with our normal FA zerging….and about 30 on reset night, where we have the actual lag issues here.

I’m running 1920 × 1080, all settings max’d (distance, shadows, player detail, etc).

My only guess would be that it’s a combination of things. My memory is faster so my mem bus is running faster. That has a big impact. The 3770 is also hyperthreaded, meaning it can present 8 “cores” to the app vs. only 4 with the 3570 (yes, I know, there are still only 4 cores….I’m just noting the differences). That might have an impact. Finally, I run NOTHING in the background, not even a browser. I noticed on my old system that every little thing I ran had an impact, so on the new one I just run the game.

I hope that helps.

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Posted by: Taobella.6597

Taobella.6597

it not the game it your cpu ^^. my friend has 5.2 chip he avr 100 fps in full zerg fights

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Posted by: ganeshori.6309

ganeshori.6309

I wonder what on your system is giving you the ability of 90fps. Im running a 3570K clocked to 4.5 GHz, gigabyte gtx680 s.o.c., 16GB 1866 corsair dominator platinum, 250 gb samsung 840 pro ssd.

I doubt its the cpu….both seem to run pretty even in this game….wouldnt think its the cards….could it be that sweet ram yer runnin? what settings you running in-game?, size and settings of yer monitor?

Oh, and Im averaging around 70fps in slow areas….drops to around 40 to 50 with our normal FA zerging….and about 30 on reset night, where we have the actual lag issues here.

I’m running 1920 × 1080, all settings max’d (distance, shadows, player detail, etc).

My only guess would be that it’s a combination of things. My memory is faster so my mem bus is running faster. That has a big impact. The 3770 is also hyperthreaded, meaning it can present 8 “cores” to the app vs. only 4 with the 3570 (yes, I know, there are still only 4 cores….I’m just noting the differences). That might have an impact. Finally, I run NOTHING in the background, not even a browser. I noticed on my old system that every little thing I ran had an impact, so on the new one I just run the game.

I hope that helps.

ya, I think its the ram…our settings are set the same. Still dont think its the cpu…I dont believe GW2 really uses the hyperthreading. Might have to try bumping up my ram a bit….Its pretty good ram…im sure I could get a nice boost on it. Might be a server issue too. Im running on FA up against TC and SOS at the moment…Prior to thakittens be us against TC and DB for a good long while, heh. Lots of 40+ zergs all week long….with quite a few much larger ones from TC.

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Posted by: Crash.9186

Crash.9186

There is no more fun in WvW, it’s just based on who has the biggest zerg, who can stack the most retal and who has the most arrowcarts, the random cluster of spells randomly thrown everywhere is just a feature.

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Posted by: PsYcHoSeAn.4835

PsYcHoSeAn.4835

I wouldn’t say that. There can also be some fun in zergs bashing each others heads. But only if you can use your skills. An arrowcart is useless if you can’t shoot it…and that’s what happens atm. And it seems that it’s getting worse every week.

Just another hammer swinging warrior from [INVI] on Desolation.

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Posted by: Slyk.1452

Slyk.1452

PRO TIP , might help you ,. start/ type in, msconfig/services/disable all, and /startup/disable all ,.. and don’t restart , enjoy the WvW much better closing out all unnessassary processes,, good luck and hope it works , pretty positive youl have a great experience after ward , enjoy