Guild Wars 2

I get tired of people not being on Voice chat(mumble, team speak, vent or other program ) people come up with random reasons as to why they can’t be on voice chat. So far in my mind they are not valid. Only one is if the person is deaf and so far no one has said that to me. All I ask is for people to just listen they don’t even have to talk or need a fancy headset / mic. Dollar store sells some okay stuff they can use. Skip the morning coffee and get some. For the handful that say game crashes when they use it. All that says to me is you have a crappy computer and should not be playing guild wars.

What is so hard about getting on so we can all be on the same page.

I don’t use the servers public TS due to a lot of kids yelling at each other, arguing over who knows more and complaining about a couple of 1 push uplevels…

For me the choice is: Listen to kids whine or listen to music.

Guild raids on a private TS is another story.

real life stuff, sometimes I get headaches and just cant use a headset or be on ts. People with small kids, or sleeping spouses etc.

Well, a couple of reasons. I don’t follow the zerg, I roam and scout solo, and I feel I can put my scout reports just as well into the map chat where everyone can benefit from them.

Second, my server TS assigns class symbols and I end up frequently being asked to come portal golems, which I deem a waste of my time. Instead of saying no and being considered a prick, I opt to just not have to deal with it.

Finally, the music bots. I have a wildly different idea of what good music is than the idiots who queue up kitten for these things. Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, One Direction, or any of the other talentless hacks give me migraines.

Travis you are unreal.

:P

When you have 3 to 5 in voice chat and 45 to 50 on the map. I can’t belive that so many of then get headaches, tired of hearing UK person, Mexican, and American. Talk pretty civil. Or as some would say screaming teenager’s. Oh wait they must have a person sleeping and or kid’s in the room. Just seems like a larger number of people not to be on voice chat. Not trying to tell people how to play but we have so many online and so few on the voice coms. We do have linked channels so messages can be sent to those in a different channel. Yet it seems no one is really listening because 9x out of. 10 we still end up having only those invoice on commander tag.
People tell say they rather type in team chat so everyone can here than just coms. But I’ve been on 5 servers and it seems most don’t trust what is said in team chat vs things being said in voice chat. The current and the one before this one. The commander’s only speak in on voice chat to give order’s. They tend to get mad when y o u try and repeat them in team chat for those not on coms
As ive been told a few times by different people. “They don’t trust anyone not willing to get on voice coms with them.” So that has been sort of ingrained inti me now.
I don’t mean to sound like I am telling anyone how to play or be negative Nancy. Just trying to figure out how come so many on map and so few in voice coms channel.

Wit so many on the map doing wvw I’d expect to at least see half be in voice chat. Having been on button tier server to top tier server that has a big wvw presence I would think more people would be understanding to the vue of using Mumble, team speak and stuff.

Pretty much baddies will be baddies, The same people who don’t use mumbles and ts are same people who run in zergs with solo builds, then moan about how the other servers is blobbing up when they get one pushed, pretty much its why I turn off map chat now,

UnrealTravis.9016:

I get tired of people not being on Voice chat(mumble, team speak, vent or other program ) people come up with random reasons as to why they can’t be on voice chat. So far in my mind they are not valid. Only one is if the person is deaf and so far no one has said that to me. All I ask is for people to just listen they don’t even have to talk or need a fancy headset / mic. Dollar store sells some okay stuff they can use. Skip the morning coffee and get some. For the handful that say game crashes when they use it. All that says to me is you have a crappy computer and should not be playing guild wars.

What is so hard about getting on so we can all be on the same page.

I understand that it makes our life a lot easier but you have to give up that irrational idea that there are no legitimate reason not to go on voice com. Expecting all to be on voice com is a utopia. Forget it right now you will be better for it.

First of all, it is not up to you to decide what is a valid reason. After all, we don’t all have the same values and priorities.

People might not have microphone or headset or one that is working, yet still want to play.

I personally use my Mumble/TS to speak to friends while playing. If I’m talking with them on voice com about something else, I’m not with you on a voice com even if I do roam around.

Some people don’t speak or understand the English language or are very shy about their pronunciation/accent/whatever. It is none of your business to tell them to get over it. They feel that way.

Finally, some people just don’t want to and it is their right to be left alone. There aren’t any more legitimate reason than “I don’t want to” when you play something. After all, it’s a game and you will seek to please yourself not obey others whims.

You have no control over others behaviors of that kind so my suggestion is to let it go. Be on voice com with all those who want/care, I totally understand why this makes your life way easier BTW, but there is simply no realistic way you can expect to get rid of map chat when you command. Accept it and you will feel better, or just rage on…

EDIT
I also wanted to add that some people like to play while listening to music in their headset. The voice of a commander isn’t always as good as their favorite music…

To me it’s like going to a school for science and technology and come to find out everyone has a Zack Mooris cell phone. No one has a smart phone. Just seems dumb to me. It be one thing on lower tier but at higher up tier. I’d expect some higher level of play.

UnrealTravis.9016:

To me it’s like going to a school for science and technology and come to find out everyone has a Zack Mooris cell phone. No one has a smart phone. Just seems dumb to me. It be one thing on lower tier but at higher up tier. I’d expect some higher level of play.

Your expectation are way, way off.

It is not anything like a science class. People go to play and have fun without having to give a kitten about getting a bad grade and they have no obligations to you. People who wants you to be their teacher will ask you for it.

The way you think, nobody should be allowed to play hockey unless they are aiming for Pro-leagues and fully equipped. Screw you kids who play in the backyard is what you are saying.

Keep in mind you can turn down mute and so on, on TS and Mumbles’,
And if you can keep on a commander tag you can get away with not being on TS or Mumbles’

This is how it goes…..

You lose 5-10 people as they chase off after 4-5 people.
(Its no good saying don’t chase….there on mumble or ts)
The same thing happens 2-3 more times, and you come up against the other servers zerg, by this time you’re zerg has maybe 30 to 40% less people then there zerg, you get wiped, the fair-weathers leave WvW as most just want to ktrain’, you then lose 3-4 towers, get an attack on keep, it happens 3-4 times a day, and….you lose that week….

I guess all this comes from my first server I joined. During the beta trails we set up a mumble and website. On game lunch a good bit of rhe people on the server were all on during beta and knew each other. So they made it a must for you to join the server website and use mumble for PVE and or WVW. They had people spamming the info night and day. For WVW the server would Blacklist you and not even talk to you in team chat if you were not on mumale and sign up on the website. You could not join mumble if you were not on the website and everyone looked down on you if you did not use it. The server was very pro mumble and website. For PVE to WVW. Since than I’ve only been in guilds that require you to be in mumble for anything they do.
the same group of people even did it for other mmos and people were fine with the idea of having to use a website or mumble. They just thought our group were hackers wanting to steal account info.

moomincat.9816:

Keep in mind you can turn down mute and so on, on TS and Mumbles’,
And if you can keep on a commander tag you can get away with not being on TS or Mumbles’

This is how it goes…..

You lose 5-10 people as they chase off after 4-5 people.
(Its no good saying don’t chase….there on mumble or ts)
The same thing happens 2-3 more times, and you come up against the other servers zerg, by this time you’re zerg has maybe 30 to 40% less people then there zerg, you get wiped, the fair-weathers leave WvW as most just want to ktrain’, you then lose 3-4 towers, get an attack on keep, it happens 3-4 times a day, and….you lose that week….

I agree with you. Small group comes up and attacks your group. Commander says don’t chase after them on voice coms. Others on com stay on tag. Those not leave to chase. Now comes a zerg wipes us out. People get mad log from game and those who weren’t in voice chat get kittened and upset because we losing and they keep getting killed. When if they just got on to listen not even talk.
To say not everyone understands English or speaks it. Well part of that I can understand. Since we have people who play from all over the world
South America and the middle east. Who command and it’s very touch and go with these folk’s. Trying to read team chat or understand them on voice chat. If you say upfront that you don’t do English well people will understand. Just make it clear up front. So we can try and work with you. Being a multicultural server we have people who can help translate and make things easy for those players.

girls go gaga when i talk so i stay away from potential trouble.

Sounds like my old guild leader his wife banned him from talking with the guild on mumble or public channels. She was scared girls were hitting on him and or he hitting on them with his English accent. Unless she was in the same room as him and did not use a headset. So she could hear everything.

valid reason? i don’t want to lol

There are times when we can’t use voice comms. If I have relatives over, I’m not going to be on comms. If my headset is being used on another computer, I’m not going to be on comms.

That said, simply ‘not wanting to be on comms’ is a pretty kitten poor reason. It makes a bad group mediocre, a good group great.

I just wanna listen to chillstep and pick flowers. Is my reason valid enough?

Keira Ferland.5619:

valid reason? i don’t want to lol

That’s the only reason necessary.

Any reason is valid, because they don’t owe you anything.

If a commander wants you to use a free voice communication program so you can hear his/her calls the least you could do is use that program or go follow some other commander. It’s almost like getting a free ride from someone to work and complaining about their music on the radio.

My valid reasons. 1) i dont stack on commanders, im Always doing my own stuff. 2) I rather listening to music while playing a game instead of hearing other ppl yapyap.
3) I simply write my reports into mapchat so ppl with and without TS can get the info needed.

Offair.2563:

My valid reasons. 1) i dont stack on commanders, im Always doing my own stuff. 2) I rather listening to music while playing a game instead of hearing other ppl yapyap.
3) I simply write my reports into mapchat so ppl with and without TS can get the info needed.

Plug.DJ let’s you listen to music while on voice chat and lowers the music volume when people talk. You can adjust the settings and stuff. Others can join the channel and add music to the DJ Set list. So each person plays one song and it goes down the list of people in the DJ. That way you don’t always just hear people yapping jn the background. The music comes from streaming video sites and stuff like SoundCloud and other online stream sites.

Unnecessary streaming slows things down and promotes lag, no matter how good you think your system is.

I’ll agree that using voice coms I’d not a must and don’t need to use it every time you WVW. If all the non users stop ducking moaning and groaning about how they keep getting killed, why don’t control anything on any maps, or why the server is last in PPT. Oh why do we keep letting this blob take our stuff.

How do you know the nonusers are “moaning” if they are not in comms?

TS gives me a headache and spoils my enjoyment of the game.

Last time I used it I had to endure listening to a bunch of tweens talking crap…and a troll playing random annoying music and sound bites…no thanks.

UnrealTravis.9016:

Offair.2563:

My valid reasons. 1) i dont stack on commanders, im Always doing my own stuff. 2) I rather listening to music while playing a game instead of hearing other ppl yapyap.
3) I simply write my reports into mapchat so ppl with and without TS can get the info needed.

Plug.DJ let’s you listen to music while on voice chat and lowers the music volume when people talk. You can adjust the settings and stuff. Others can join the channel and add music to the DJ Set list. So each person plays one song and it goes down the list of people in the DJ. That way you don’t always just hear people yapping jn the background. The music comes from streaming video sites and stuff like SoundCloud and other online stream sites.

Like i said, those are MY valid reasons. Maybe invalid to you. And i dont like interuptions in my music just because someone is talking through it.

First of all, you don’t dictate how I do anything in my life, never mind how I play a game. Poor you if you that needs to be shoved in your face.

Second of all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis

I don’t even have the game music on, never mind wanting to listen to your TeamSpeak garbage. That just isn’t going to happen.

On a cold and quiet night when sounds travel well I can hear trains pulling into the main train station, and that’s almost 3km away. A couple of people have tried to tell me that it must be nice to have a super-power. My thinking is that it would be nice to be able to turn it off once in a while.

whats the easiest way to use voice chat on game? is it something within the game or…?

Deamhan.9538:

I agree with the OP. I have small kids meaning I have to get up and walk away from the computer at a moments notice. I still go on the public TS.

WvW is a team environment. Coming up with lame excuses just tells me that you can’t be bothered to be a team player. Go back to PvE.

You can still be a teamplayer without the usage of TS or anything like that. I am never on TS yet lots of commanders whispering me to ask about the Home border status. But i guess the Next Gen Gamers do not have a clue about that.

I have no issue getting people into teamspeak.. Maybe try to not scream, cuss, yell at, demean and demand things from people and they will WANT to get on teamspeak with you instead of avoid it. Perhaps Ask, Command without screaming (Revolutionary I know, but its possible), Avoid cussing if you can (Most of us are adults, but spewing out profanities 24/7 wont get you a following as its childish, and dont demand; All you have to do is ask and be respectful, people are there to have fun, not win. PPT is an arbitrary and moot point at this time in the game and how fast people are burning out of it each season, if you want to PPT go to T1 again.

It doesnt happen overnight either, You have to build it. Just ask you said, people in your beta server spammed it day and night, but the elitist attitude of not talking to people just because they arent in teamspeak is a toxic environment to your community and players around you and will ultimately hurt it.

If people like and respect you then they would join TS, otherwise you are just a tag to follow and get loot. Judging by your posts, you are not.

Deamhan.9538:

Offair.2563:

Deamhan.9538:

I agree with the OP. I have small kids meaning I have to get up and walk away from the computer at a moments notice. I still go on the public TS.

WvW is a team environment. Coming up with lame excuses just tells me that you can’t be bothered to be a team player. Go back to PvE.

You can still be a teamplayer without the usage of TS or anything like that. I am never on TS yet lots of commanders whispering me to ask about the Home border status. But i guess the Next Gen Gamers do not have a clue about that.

There’s a reason comm prefer people on ts. Having to stop what you’re doing to take the time and type kitten out takes away from the teams performance.

Oh and I’m first gen gamer so I’d suggest you close your trap before you put your next foot into it.

No TS no teamplay so have to go back to PVE. Gotcha. The commanders i inform never EVER required me to come to TS yet they keep on asking me what is going on etc.

@banzie – well said. The trick is to make people want to join voice Coms…. If they don’t or do, but don’t come back the next time – there is probably something wrong with the people in voice com s…. Could be raging, cussing, juvenile chitter chatter, etc….

First off, TS/mumble is a 3rd party program. If I’m playing on someone else’s computer they may not allow me to install it.

Second, it’s possible that their computer sucks, and can’t run it without lag.

Third, Just because you are a tag doesn’t mean people have to follow you…

I remember this one commander that would aggressively scold people to get on TS and would call people out in map chat for not being on TS/dying. Then you go log on TS, and it turns out you’d have to put up with his crap anyways. Oh and btw, I have no respect for commanders that evaporate on the first push, lol.

Be respectful, and stop demanding people listen to you, and link the TS constantly, asking “if you want to do better, please get on TS”. It really depends on your manner of telling to people.

And yes, I understand there’s always a bunch of people that won’t cooperate regardless of what you do and insist on following you. I don’t have any qualms with abandoning people not on TS though and letting them get wiped, lol. I mean it goes the other way, if they’re not playing ball, you can’t be held responsible for what happens to them either.

Pretty Pixie.8603:

Any reason is valid, because they don’t owe you anything.

My post got deleted because I got fired up as usual. This will suffice for what I’d like to say ^

UnrealTravis.9016:

For WVW the server would Blacklist you and not even talk to you in team chat if you were not on mumale and sign up on the website. You could not join mumble if you were not on the website and everyone looked down on you if you did not use it.

Sounds like a real bunch of jerks.

In the heat of the moment, a comm doesn’t have the time to stop what they’re doing to type every little thing in chat. Things like stack, back off, push, water fields, banner res, etc. etc. If a commander had to type this out, they couldn’t. As it is now, comms get spam blocked with what little they are forced to say in chat. Even if they could, their character would just be standing there. As mentioned above, and it’s seen far too often, the zerg makes a push and is then told to back off. Half don’t because they’re not in ts and they get wiped. Now the zerg is 50% weaker and ends up getting wiped too.

So the comm should’ve typed it? Well the comm could’ve been too busy controlling their character to stay alive. The comm could be spam blocked. The comm could’ve typed it but those people are too busy focused on fighting they are not paying attention to chat.

Also, I’ve seen what happens to the zerg when the comm has to go and there is nobody there to take over. They disperse, become disorganized. The opposing teams pretty much get free reign. They have the nerve to tag up and lead, so unless you are willing to do the same, you have no right to complain about “bossy” or “rude” comms.

To exemplify this, one of the best comms I’ve followed has been Tryden (hope I spelled that right). When he commands, he gives commands. I’m not exaggerating above regarding calling out stacking, backing off, water fields, banner res’es, wells, etc. It happens very quickly, too quickly to be typed and absolutely makes the difference between winning and losing.

moomincat.9816:

Pretty much baddies will be baddies, The same people who don’t use mumbles and ts are same people who run in zergs with solo builds, then moan about how the other servers is blobbing up when they get one pushed, pretty much its why I turn off map chat now,

So having a kid or a family makes people baddies? WOW… Some of us actually have a life mate.

This whole thread is exactly why people don’t want to use TS…. Who the hell wants to log on and have a 14 year old kid telling him how to play his game ontop of kittenty kittenin music bots… Everyone understands why TS is important but if you’re a bunch of kittens no one is gonna wanna play with you

Don’t run with the zerg so i have no reason to hear the idiots on my server. The only people i can tolerate are in my guild, and we use skype. And even they wear on my nerves after awhile so i mute them and put on music while i’m playing. I don’t like people. Valid enough reason?