Guild Wars 2

Why is the party size limit 5 when a group that size doesn’t stand a chance against the insanely powerful champions and various challenges presented by the new content? If you want us to 12-man or 16-man it, allow us to create larger parties so we can at least communicate with each other properly.

5 is more than enough people to progress through the tower. Bringing large groups is what causes it to get scaled for the zerg, making elites level 81-84 appear everywhere. Once that happens, it will stay like that until either they’re killed by a small group, or if the zerg cleans them out and then ports out before they spawn again, both of which very rarely happen.

The ability to form large groups being locked behind commanders was a bad move though. You can always use /say chat, and for the tower at least, /map chat, considering if you’re with 12+ people, you’re probably the majority in there.

Personally I’ve had no problem doing the tower with 5 people groups (and it became trivial with 8 people)… as long as you’re not in a hurry.

Few days ago, for example, I joined a group of 5 people going trough the third floor…we made our way, careful about not overaggroing enemies, killing them as we went, ressing people that were downed, and we had no issue reaching the end.

Other times I’ve seen groups bigger die because instead they try to just run from purifier to purifier, and I’d say that in my experience groups that do that end up wiping before reaching the end about 60 or 70% of the times (maybe it’s me that it’s unlucky, though), usually becuause you end up overwhelmed by all the mobs you aggroed while in the air purifier, or just the groups gets gradually thinned away as people fall behind when being knocked down or stunned, are killed and if anyone tries to go back to res (without killing any of the attacking mobs) end up dead as well.

locoman.1974:

Personally I’ve had no problem doing the tower with 5 people groups (and it became trivial with 8 people)… as long as you’re not in a hurry.

Few days ago, for example, I joined a group of 5 people going trough the third floor…we made our way, careful about not overaggroing enemies, killing them as we went, ressing people that were downed, and we had no issue reaching the end.

Other times I’ve seen groups bigger die because instead they try to just run from purifier to purifier, and I’d say that in my experience groups that do that end up wiping before reaching the end about 60 or 70% of the times (maybe it’s me that it’s unlucky, though), usually becuause you end up overwhelmed by all the mobs you aggroed while in the air purifier, or just the groups gets gradually thinned away as people fall behind when being knocked down or stunned, are killed and if anyone tries to go back to res (without killing any of the attacking mobs) end up dead as well.

That’s all fine and good, but if you get stuck at one of the mandatory champion bosses that are blocking progress, 5 people simply won’t cut it, no matter how patient and methodical you are.

If you reach the champions with a small group before a zerg has managed to scale it, those champions are veterans.

Even when they’re champions, the wurm and warlock can be done solo. The spider can’t due to cocoon, but it’s not required. The warlock is the only one I’ve ever seen people have problems with and that’s only because they eat multiple projectiles at once and instantly die or melee it. If you do it solo, there’s only 1 projectile and his attacks can be evaded simply by moving back and forth.