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If it is, then I’m going to be mad.

currently. there’s nothing preventing them from adding more later. if anything I’d say it’s pretty likely

(unless of course there’s something story-wise preventing it. I didn’t really pay attention to the story :P)

there is another area blocked of by vines

Considering how last season ended I’m going to say that there’s no way this is the only new area. Also notice that they’re selling the LS for gems, so how can they do that if it’s just a tiny bit of content? It’s definitely going to have big stuff in it.

Did you expect them to release all of Maguuma at once?

Some people are theorizing that they will add new areas to Dry Top later and expand the zone. It would seem likely because otherwise the zone is shaped funny and really small, but I’d still rather they released the whole zone at once and gate us from other areas of it by other means.

Orginal Dry Top in Gw1 was also simillary small but there are other area behind dont worry. Dont be so greedy its just first chapter of LS we dont get all at once.

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

There is a section for “regional achievements”. That suggests multiple maps on the way. But I suspect drip fed

One thing I hate is posts like this.
What you need to learn living story doesn’t happen all at once. It is small updates over next 8-10month.
I was surprised that we got any new area in first update. So be happy we got that over next months . I say yes new zones slowly expanding on the story arch. The first is titled gates of maguuma .
With a title like that I would think it be just a small area if any. And most where betting with no new area this week. I didnt expect a new class we still have much of the story to unfold. Its day 1 of new season. Got to remember this isnt a expansion. If it was I would expect many zones n a class. But its not

“i’m gonna be mad”.

Seriously. You just got nice free content (that probably wasn’t planned when you bought gw2) including story, personal instances, repeatable content, a new map, events, some new mechanics … and this is the very first update in the Season 2 that will most probably have several other ones with new maps along the way !

Also, @people who say it’s a tiny piece. Did you even bother exploring it ? It is bigger than is seems when you first discover it in your world map. It’s a small map, but it’s still a nice one and doesn’t deserve to be called “tiny bit”. Btw, its already bigger than gw1’s Dry Top.

Ok I Did It.2854:

So the size of the new zone makes sense

What’s been added in this update isn’t a new zone. It’s a small area called Prospect Valley, which is part of the yet-to-be-fully-revealed zone Dry Top. It’s similar to the difference between the Thaumanova area and Metrica Province: it’s only a small chunk of the whole map.

Just clarifying for people who are confused. Nearly all zones (disregarding capital cities) in GW2 have been rectangles – fairly large ones, at that – and I’m expecting Dry Top to be the same in due time.

It’s surprisingly small.

Eowin Of Rohan.2619:

“i’m gonna be mad”.

Seriously. You just got nice free content (that probably wasn’t planned when you bought gw2) including story, personal instances, repeatable content, a new map, events, some new mechanics … and this is the very first update in the Season 2 that will most probably have several other ones with new maps along the way !

Also, @people who say it’s a tiny piece. Did you even bother exploring it ? It is bigger than is seems when you first discover it in your world map. It’s a small map, but it’s still a nice one and doesn’t deserve to be called “tiny bit”. Btw, its already bigger than gw1’s Dry Top.

+1

Small, small, small… I get it, the accurate size comparison to GW1’s Dry Top, that they probably will open up the new areas by bits and pieces and yes I even understand I do not pay a subscription fee making this “free” content (side note: I do however continue supporting the game having bought multiple copies and continued mini-transaction purchases)

For me it comes down to the “The Gates of Maguuma Open July 1” announcement. That it would in fact grant access to, well .. Maguuma and not just the first little area of it. In GW1 I loved the Maguuma Falls and exploring all the outposts and I was filled with anticipation for the last month to return there today. Sadly it didn’t live up to my hopes. This was going to reignite my passion for PvE and hopefully for friends to return. I just hope this does not drag out over months of Living Story *mini releases to finally see the actual area of Maguuma Wastelands.

I think people just wanted a new large area to explore. Something at least the size as the other open world maps.

That this is just a small portion of the map is even more worrisome because it means that LS2 may not have as many new maps (i.e. expansion pack worth) as we hoped.

Simon.3106:

They got everyone excited… waiting a whole month… for a piece of square chunk in the whole entire Maguuma Wasteland? They are as dumb as they look

How about you, like, I dunno….wait for the LS to progress? I mean honestly were you seriously expecting them to release the entire area at once? It’s only the first day and the first release. Besides, it’s already been heavily implied that we’ll end up in Magus Falls at some point.

I was expecting them to release an entire area at once, tbh. It had been a long time since the last LS update. I expected a huge splash to start LS2 off. Now I wonder if we won’t get to Magus Falls until LS3.

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

Don’t get me wrong the zone is awesome and I love it but the little amount of stuff you can truly do there that you can’t do elsewhere for either more money or more enjoyment is quite sad. And 3 hours for content that is supposed to last 2 weeks especially it being the first of Season 2 is down right pathetic like I said. I am not in the minority go look at reddit or other forums people are raging at the lack of content.

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

Don’t get me wrong the zone is awesome and I love it but the little amount of stuff you can truly do there that you can’t do elsewhere for either more money or more enjoyment is quite sad. And 3 hours for content that is supposed to last 2 weeks especially it being the first of Season 2 is down right pathetic like I said. I am not in the minority go look at reddit or other forums people are raging at the lack of content.

….Because it’s just the beginning of the season 2 maybe? I wasn’t even expecting a new zone tbh. Just be happy with what you have for once and play something else in the mean time.

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

Don’t get me wrong the zone is awesome and I love it but the little amount of stuff you can truly do there that you can’t do elsewhere for either more money or more enjoyment is quite sad. And 3 hours for content that is supposed to last 2 weeks especially it being the first of Season 2 is down right pathetic like I said. I am not in the minority go look at reddit or other forums people are raging at the lack of content.

….Because it’s just the beginning of the season 2 maybe? I wasn’t even expecting a new zone tbh. Just be happy with what you have for once and play something else in the mean time.

Except that having content so hyped and having it last for less then a day when no patch or update for two weeks. This is unacceptable there is no defending this. Though I guess I should be used to being let down by Arenanet.

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

Don’t get me wrong the zone is awesome and I love it but the little amount of stuff you can truly do there that you can’t do elsewhere for either more money or more enjoyment is quite sad. And 3 hours for content that is supposed to last 2 weeks especially it being the first of Season 2 is down right pathetic like I said. I am not in the minority go look at reddit or other forums people are raging at the lack of content.

….Because it’s just the beginning of the season 2 maybe? I wasn’t even expecting a new zone tbh. Just be happy with what you have for once and play something else in the mean time.

Except that having content so hyped and having it last for less then a day when no patch or update for two weeks. This is unacceptable there is no defending this. Though I guess I should be used to being let down by Arenanet.

This is literally no different than the rest of the LS releases. See you in two weeks.

ipan.4356:

If it is, then I’m going to be mad.

I seriously doubt it; it’s just too small to cram a year of story into.

OtakuDFifty.2965:

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

Don’t get me wrong the zone is awesome and I love it but the little amount of stuff you can truly do there that you can’t do elsewhere for either more money or more enjoyment is quite sad. And 3 hours for content that is supposed to last 2 weeks especially it being the first of Season 2 is down right pathetic like I said. I am not in the minority go look at reddit or other forums people are raging at the lack of content.

….Because it’s just the beginning of the season 2 maybe? I wasn’t even expecting a new zone tbh. Just be happy with what you have for once and play something else in the mean time.

Except that having content so hyped and having it last for less then a day when no patch or update for two weeks. This is unacceptable there is no defending this. Though I guess I should be used to being let down by Arenanet.

This is literally no different than the rest of the LS releases. See you in two weeks.

Many living story releases kept you busy for the whole 2 weeks, or at least 2 weekends, where as this one hardly kept people busy for 4 hours. Sorry to say that this release, given the advertising and the lack of significant brand new stuff for the last few months (repeat of zephyrites and Queen’s gauntlet, WvW season, and even back to the “battle for lion’s arch: aftermath” back in mid march), fell short of many people’s expectations. (Also, many people couldn’t even play the main story line because it was bugged and wouldn’t send the mail or let people purchase it from the store so all they could do is wander around the new zone)

You probably won’t see as many of those people posting on the forums because they are the ones who came back from other games, hoping for something to come back to, and didn’t find it so they go back to the other games.

I only pray that they don’t feed us all the areas in as small of chunks as Dry Top. If that’s the case I probably will only be logging on to check out if there is any gold to be made on the TP with the releases and to maybe do some WvW; I’ll save all the new areas up so that I can actually enjoy them with some substance….though that would probably mean not playing until fall if they do continue with only releasing micro-zones.

Dry Top is basically a jumping puzzle zone with some events where people can grind out geodes to spend on new keys and recipes. That’s what we get for the next two weeks.

There just isn’t that much to do in Dry Top as for now.

If you complete the story, itll tell you that there is a blocked area that youll need to get past. But thats for the next episode, so obviously, this isnt all that we are getting.
Also, as for things to do, there are brand new difficult achievements to try to complete that deal only with the story instances, as well as the additional ones for the region alone.
Thats a lot of achievements.
Not interested? Then maybe this chapter just isnt for you. Maybe in the next episode theyll have a giant boss that can be killed over and over, or a new dungeon or something.
With the living story, new content like that is revealed when it makes sense for it to be revealed in the story. So just be patient. Dont want to be? then idk, go play something else. come back when you get all the stuff you wish GW2 had. Its not like there is a subscription fee.

This is the complete map…

So enough area to expand.

NEOS.9206:

This is the complete map…

So enough area to expand.

Well now, that is an interesting screenie

How have you come up with those borders?

It would seem like he/she/it somehow managed to get past the natural barriers and walk to the top-left corner (as seen by the placement of the character and the walked path) but yeah, the other corners seems like assumptions.

lordkrall.7241:

It would seem like he/she/it somehow managed to get past the natural barriers and walk to the top-left corner (as seen by the placement of the character and the walked path) but yeah, the other corners seems like assumptions.

Yeah some voidjumping and ended there.
And no the other corners aren´t assumptions I went to all corners.

NEOS.9206:

This is the complete map…

So enough area to expand.

For me the “complete area” shown in the screen would have been a more realistic launch area for LS2 to start with, in comparison to the hype. With that said the Magumma Wastelands extend all the way north to Janthir Bay (as played in GW1). The general consensuses is this area to start LS2 is below expectations.

“Gates of Magumma Open July 1st” ~anet … We are still waiting.

Eshady.9146:

For me it comes down to the “The Gates of Maguuma Open July 1” announcement. That it would in fact grant access to, well .. Maguuma and not just the first little area of it.

It seemed obvious to me that we would get something like we did; it isn’t that the expansion is the gate to maguuma, its that the zone itself is. Therefore, we got the Gate to Maguuma, also known as Dry Top, not the entire zone, yet.

It is rather small though, but condensed. There’s a lot of stuff in there, considering its free content.

When someone actually PAYS for the content, I suppose whining might be acceptable, but for free content, really, you are getting MORE than what you paid for.

Laylie.5703:

CharrGirl.7896:

Laylie.5703:

Kain Francois.4328:

You people rush your content too much. It’s like complaining that you beat a Sonic game in one day.

It took 3 hours to get 95% of the AP that is not rushing content at all. This was the most pathetic Living Story and for it being the start of Season 2 its hilarious. GG wait 2 weeks relog.

I think you’re in the minority with that opinion.

Don’t get me wrong the zone is awesome and I love it but the little amount of stuff you can truly do there that you can’t do elsewhere for either more money or more enjoyment is quite sad. And 3 hours for content that is supposed to last 2 weeks especially it being the first of Season 2 is down right pathetic like I said. I am not in the minority go look at reddit or other forums people are raging at the lack of content.

How much did you pay for it? If it was zero, then really, you got more than what you paid for it.

And besides, this amount of content I rather expected.

Nothing else was datamined so yes it is. It is probably they add more, but maybe in 2 more years (?)

Wow, the amount of negativity in here and escalating negativity on pure speculation that no, either we won’t get more or wah wah wah, why isn’t it all there already… :/

Clearly there will be more areas, more stories, more of everything, so just sit tight and participate in the upcoming episodes.

NEOS.9206:

Yeah some voidjumping and ended there.
And no the other corners aren´t assumptions I went to all corners.

I’m unsure because that would make the smallest zone in GW1 one of the biggest of GW2 – not to mention the actual Dry Top is still outside the zone!

My guess right now is that they’re gonna add the NW corner at least, but after that, I’m not entirely sure. Of course I hope it’ll be big, but I’ve learned not to expect the best and I won’t be disappointed.

Yes, the area is smaller than the original maps the game launched with, but it packs quite a bit of content into it from what I’ve seen. Hell, I sat for 15 minutes just watching that champ bird run over people last night. I laughed so hard my sides hurt!

Still, from what I have seen, and based on the shape of the map (you notice it’s not a nice square like all the others? it looks like its just the corner of a bigger chunk), I do not think this is the only one we’re getting. There is the vined off section to the north (I think it’s north), that could lead to an additional part of the map. You do access it through one of the story instances, and it looks like there is a way beyond as the Master of Peace is leaving at the end. I’m sure there are probably other likely passages out as well, but I haven’t gone over the map with a fine tooth comb as yet.

I didn’t expect to get all of the zones for the season at one time. I don’t even expect to get one with every update necessarily. We’re “exploring uncharted territory.” Slowly pushing our way out into the unknown. As such, I fully expect we’ll get the maps piece meal every couple of updates as the story dictates the need for it. Which is actually kind of cool, imo.

I’m hoping it’s not the only area, but considering Anet’s track record, we’ll get another new zone by 2016.

i really do like the new map and i think anet did a good job with it. however i am very disappointed that we only get 25% of the actual map. i do see the logic behind it to get parts of the map out every 2 or 4 weeks BUT most (well at least my friends and i feel that way) people who wanted an expansion are eager to just walk around and explore new zones! that is exciting and fun, to see new stuff. and yea, if you want to explore the new zone you are done in 1h and need to wait for the next release.

thats just disapointment and so i think the ppl who wanted an expansion are not satisfied with that sort of living story.

Honestly, they wouldn’t be satisfied if they got a full 6, 8, 10 full maps either if you think about it. They go out, play 8 hours a day. In a matter of days they have consumed the content and the chant “more more more” starts all over again…

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Honestly, they wouldn’t be satisfied if they got a full 6, 8, 10 full maps either if you think about it. They go out, play 8 hours a day. In a matter of days they have consumed the content and the chant “more more more” starts all over again…

well that would be unfair, though i think some ppl would still complain, you are right. but still, i think most ppl anticipated/hoped for at least one normal-sized zone at the release of this hyped season 2.

edit: a normal-sized map with normal vistas/pois/waypoints/events/world boss. i think its pretty bad, that the new map doesnt count towards (old or new) world completion achievement. and its pretty bad that you dont get anything for map completion (though the map is not completed yet, so that may be wrong in future).

There was a post on reddit earlier today where someone broke through the landscape and found another area behind the current one that is already in the game (but incomplete). So it looks like there are plans to expand the map slowly.

knyy.6427:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Honestly, they wouldn’t be satisfied if they got a full 6, 8, 10 full maps either if you think about it. They go out, play 8 hours a day. In a matter of days they have consumed the content and the chant “more more more” starts all over again…

well that would be unfair, though i think some ppl would still complain, you are right. but still, i think most ppl anticipated/hoped for at least one normal-sized zone at the release of this hyped season 2.

a normal-sized map with normal vistas/pois/waypoints/events/world boss. i think its pretty bad, that the new map doesnt count towards (old or new) world completion achievement. and its pretty bad that you dont get anything for map completion (though the map is not completed yet, so that may be wrong in future).

Oh, yes, there will always be complaints. Nothing is perfect, but there is a difference between what I’m talking about and what you’re talking about. Beyond the simple, ‘meh it’s not really my thing so I didn’t enjoy it.’ I don’t like SAB for example, and I’ve stated in my reviews that I don’t care for it because it’s not my play style. Outside that though it’s very well constructed and looks fun to play. That’s totally different than like the OP’s (and others on here) “oh this is total kitten, anet doesn’t know wtf they are doing” etc etc.

I have to ask…. what freaking hype? Anet gave us a zone portal, a teaser trailer, 2 snippets of audio, 2 concept art, and a twitch that covered the journal as a whole. That’s it. We got more kitten during season 1! We have made assumptions. We speculated. But there really was no hype on anets part for this. They’ve stated that “season 2” is awesome (or something along those lines) but that’s referring to the whole season… not just the first patch. They really haven’t built it up like they did with prior releases.

I think people would have been kittened if their world completion had been invalidated by the new zone(s). Especially if they have it on multiple characters. So I can understand why it doesn’t count towards the original completion. It’s not really all that different than Canthan Cartographer being separate from Krytan Cartographer.

I don’t mind them doing the map piece by piece, to facilitate the ‘exploration’ feeling. It also forces the content locusts to slow down, and stems the flow of “more more more kittening more” somewhat.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Oh, yes, there will always be complaints. Nothing is perfect, but there is a difference between what I’m talking about and what you’re talking about. Beyond the simple, ‘meh it’s not really my thing so I didn’t enjoy it.’ I don’t like SAB for example, and I’ve stated in my reviews that I don’t care for it because it’s not my play style. Outside that though it’s very well constructed and looks fun to play. That’s totally different than like the OP’s (and others on here) “oh this is total kitten, anet doesn’t know wtf they are doing” etc etc.

I have to ask…. what freaking hype? Anet gave us a zone portal, a teaser trailer, 2 snippets of audio, 2 concept art, and a twitch that covered the journal as a whole. That’s it. We got more kitten during season 1! We have made assumptions. We speculated. But there really was no hype on anets part for this. They’ve stated that “season 2” is awesome (or something along those lines) but that’s referring to the whole season… not just the first patch. They really haven’t built it up like they did with prior releases.

I think people would have been kittened if their world completion had been invalidated by the new zone(s). Especially if they have it on multiple characters. So I can understand why it doesn’t count towards the original completion. It’s not really all that different than Canthan Cartographer being separate from Krytan Cartographer.

I don’t mind them doing the map piece by piece, to facilitate the ‘exploration’ feeling. It also forces the content locusts to slow down, and stems the flow of “more more more kittening more” somewhat.

well, if you show a new zone portal as a teaser, a normal person will think you get a new (normal) zone. cause thats shown in the teaser. everyone liked it and eventually you get hyped (some more or less i guess, i read reddit and there we got pretty hyped). maybe hype is the wrong word. you get some expectations with that teaser of a zone portal and it couldnt deliver that well (only because the map is so small).

and yea, i think they should have added a new achievement for the a zone completion or something. maybe they will add that in future cause that would spoil how many zones are coming?

we will see.

knyy.6427:

well, if you show a new zone portal as a teaser, a normal person will think you get a new (normal) zone. cause thats shown in the teaser. everyone liked it and eventually you get hyped (some more or less i guess, i read reddit and there we got pretty hyped). maybe hype is the wrong word. you get some expectations with that teaser of a zone portal and it couldnt deliver that well (only because the map is so small).

Here in lies the issue. We see a tease, we make assumptions.

We assume we are getting a new zone (which we did).

We assume it will be the same size as all the previous ones (although, from my understanding this one is about the size of Southsun).

We set expectations based on those assumptions, which have absolutely no grounds in any fact because no actual information was provided.

And then we kitten that Anet didn’t deliver, when the fact of the matter is they never told us how much we were getting. We jumped to conclusions, but somehow they are the ones in the wrong.

We do the same thing with movie teasers, but oddly, it’s never the movie maker’s fault that our assumptions were wrong. Why’s it so different for games?

and yea, i think they should have added a new achievement for the a zone completion or something. maybe they will add that in future cause that would spoil how many zones are coming?

we will see.

Maybe they have a region completion achievement, but they couldn’t put it in without giving too many spoilers?

Maybe there is more to the Dry Top map itself, thus why when you hit m there is no waypoint / poi / sp count?

I think it’s way too early to tell. All we can do is speculate.

why do people expect so much all at once? go be mad seriously.
its day 2 of the living story which may go on for months!
I don’t like coming on the forums for this reason…..

" I want new stuff, give it to me now"

gets new stuff*

" is that it? I want more, I am owed more!"

more opens in time*

" that was rubbish I hated every minute of it, give me more new stuff!"

sorry if my grammar sucks, but you get the idea.

This is the only map there will ever be, this is it, the season started and ended with this episode, the devs are laughing how they got your hopes up and then took it away.

My advice, go into an hulk rage and start smashing your computer, that will teach them to mess with your emotions.