Guild Wars 2

1. guardian
2. warrior
3. ele
4. mesmer
5.ranger
6.thief
7. engineer
8. necromancer

My personal list?
1. engineer
2. engineer
3. engineer
4. engineer
5. engineer

Why take other classes when engi can handle everything:-)

1. Ele
2. Guardian
3. Thief (skipping trash via stealth is soooooooooo nice)
4. Warrior
5. Mesmer
6. Engineer
7. Ranger
9. Necromancer.

That said, I do main necromancer and don’t discriminate in the parties I create. May even do another all-necro dungeon run soon.

I wouldn’t even Rank classes for anything its all personal Use and that persons Expierance for the dungeon, and don’t say Ap is a factor of experiance.

ranking classes creates Segregation .

just take a pug group and teach them how to run the dungeons instead of Labeling Ranks for classes..That persons experience Trumps any Rank you can supposably add..

So im not giving you a list or a order or pros or cons of different classes no matter how Minute it can be.

the last thing i’ll say if this is based on a LFG pug group its common sense not to take too many of certain classes , not because of the labeled Rank but because of this attitude creates people missing out on dungeons and limits their experiance playing those dungeons by adding ranks.

its counter productive to the future player base to label classes by rank for PvE.

Engi (any party which says ‘meta only no engis’ instantly says to me they no idea how the meta works), elementalist and warrior sets at the top for me in the same spot.

Everything else apart from necro sits at second tier.

Necros are just dead weight in PvE.

Thief/Guardian/Elementalist are all top ranked in dungeons.

That being said I laugh really hard when i see LFG that says “only heavies” or something dumb like that bcuz that is just one of the worst compositions to do anything. A thief in a party already cuts the dungeon time by about half considering the amount of dps and easy of trash skips they offer, the other two classes are also obvious as to why they are good to have.

1) Elementalist (I would argue anyone who doesn’t put ele here doesn’t understand dungeons)
2) Guardian (can do reflects, stability if you need it, and good dps)
3) Warrior (unique banner buffs and might stacking if you want it)
4) Engineer (can do a lot of different things in a dungeon)
5) Thief (improv ice bow op)
6) Mesmer (time warp and portal skips)
7) Ranger (spotter… un nerf frost spirit please)
8) Necro (The only thing necros really bring is weakness and blinds, but other classes can bring that. Necros need a new dps weapon, and a unique party buff to be in the meta)

Rozbuska.5263:

My personal list?
1. engineer
2. engineer
3. engineer
4. engineer
5. engineer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eUcZzOZpQo

Why take other classes when engi can handle everything:-)

This guy knows what’s up.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

I wouldn’t even Rank classes for anything its all personal Use and that persons Expierance for the dungeon, and don’t say Ap is a factor of experiance.

ranking classes creates Segregation .

just take a pug group and teach them how to run the dungeons instead of Labeling Ranks for classes..That persons experience Trumps any Rank you can supposably add..

So im not giving you a list or a order or pros or cons of different classes no matter how Minute it can be.

the last thing i’ll say if this is based on a LFG pug group its common sense not to take too many of certain classes , not because of the labeled Rank but because of this attitude creates people missing out on dungeons and limits their experiance playing those dungeons by adding ranks.

its counter productive to the future player base to label classes by rank for PvE.

well that is really nice of you but not everyone shares your opinion because arena net has made the game , not you !

if you don’t like the way how people already not allow certain classes to part take in dungeons maybe you should say something to arena net cause what you are doing is going to fall on deaf ears because people want what is best right now . and in the end when it comes to dungeons people already have their idea of what they think is best and what is not so good . arena net develops the classes , if they think a certain class might need some love in the next patch to make them more effective in dungeon runs then so be it .

All of them, because I don’t judge.

Edit: Unless it’s a PU mesmer, then I hate them for life.

Engis bring so much to a party, hard to believe people rank them so lowly. I mean, why rank thief so highly just for stealth skipping? An engi can bring literally the exact same stealth. Smoke bomb+Big ol’bomb, healing turret overcharge, shield blast, thumper turret overcharge+thumper toolbelt+other blast finisher in last utility slot and you’ve got stealth capped. Quick switch of utilities before the fight and with the exact same build they bring 25 vuln stacks alone. And their damage is nothing to sneeze at either.

Saying you take thief just for stealth skips then rank engi so much lower really just doesn’t make sense, and unfortunately a lot of people who are newer to dungeons take one look at these lists and assume that the people below number 5 aren’t even worth bringing.

Thief isn’t just for stealth skipping though, they have the highest dps in the game and that is made even better with elementalist ice bow equipped. Thief are also much more reliable on applying stealth and can stealth a party though long distances. Engineer can provide a decent amount of stealth at the start of a trash skip but they cannot do it midway like a thief can.

Rozbuska.5263:

My personal list?
1. engineer
2. engineer
3. engineer
4. engineer
5. engineer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eUcZzOZpQo

Why take other classes when engi can handle everything:-)

5 engis, op as kitten. 25 stacks of might perma, everyone has swiftness, 25 stacks of vul, stealth whenever, Boon rip if needed, AoE condi removal, water field, AoE heal. Time ur heals well and no one should drop. AoE Rezing, Mass dmg single target or AoE.

ele
guard
thief
warrior
mesmer
ranger
engi
necro

Lifestealer.4910:

Thief isn’t just for stealth skipping though, they have the highest dps in the game and that is made even better with elementalist ice bow equipped. Thief are also much more reliable on applying stealth and can stealth a party though long distances. Engineer can provide a decent amount of stealth at the start of a trash skip but they cannot do it midway like a thief can.

Still, thieves can’t apply as much vulnerability as engis, and I think most would agree that party dps is>personal dps. I mean, why not bring both. Capped out vuln plus the dps of thief would make them even better than they are alone. Seems like engis bring a lot to the table and yet are ranked consistently in the bottom 3 by people…

They’ve got plenty of blast finishers for might/stealth, access to all the useful fields, vuln stacking, AoE heals/condi removal, mass boon removal, reflects/projectile destruction and dps depending on what they swap in and out. They’ve got the tools necessary to either fill or supplement almost any role in the party just by swapping some utilities around. It just baffles me that people can rate them so low when in most cases an engineer will bring exactly what they need to fill out a party composition.

I only targeted thief in particular because whenever you see someone talking about dungeon thieves, pretty much the first thing that comes up is stealth skipping, which engi can do in burst with 5 blast finishers and then apply mid run with Toss Elixir S.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

I wouldn’t even Rank classes for anything its all personal Use and that persons Expierance for the dungeon, and don’t say Ap is a factor of experiance.

- Dude, achievement points are life! You can instantly see how many achievement points somebody has and that tells how good pro player he is. You can have tons of achievement points for killing monsters in PvE, which proves you’re experienced killer. And there’s daily achievements like “daily gatherer”, so you can see the person is hard worker. Anet even added achievement point top lists so you can see who the best players in the game are.

Best group for speedclears in my opinion is Guard,Warr,Ele,Thief,Ranger.

Class importance order in normal (pug) dungs is:

Guardian
Thief (for stealth skipping)
Elementalist
Warior
Mesmer
Ranger
Engineer
Necro (Should not even be here as there’s no point taking a necro in PvE) (Thanks Anet…)

1. Ele
2. Thief
3. Guard
4. Engineer
5. Warrior
6. Mesmer
7. Ranger
8. Necro

I only play necro and engi, but i’ll always take my engie. I love my necro for what all it can do, but when it comes to teamwork it doesn’t hold a candle to my engineer.

Zenith.6403:

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

I wouldn’t even Rank classes for anything its all personal Use and that persons Expierance for the dungeon, and don’t say Ap is a factor of experiance.

- Dude, achievement points are life! You can instantly see how many achievement points somebody has and that tells how good pro player he is. You can have tons of achievement points for killing monsters in PvE, which proves you’re experienced killer. And there’s daily achievements like “daily gatherer”, so you can see the person is hard worker. Anet even added achievement point top lists so you can see who the best players in the game are.

All Ap points are for is Grinding , When i started i managed with help from my guild join a speed run of theirs , on my ranger when it only just reached lvl 50 for AC they told me where,when and what to do , my Ap score was horrid back then since i was only on the game for two months.

anyone can do a dungeon with instructions and the Minimum Lvl requirement for the dungeon , AP has very little to do with it, when the game scales things down/up for you and gives you clear instruction of not what to do.

unless they have been playing the game solo/alone for a very long time or been inactive for a long time , then Ap might be a factor of that players experience but that only Streaches as far as trash mobs and easy Festival Ap points.

I’m selling sarcasm detector, pm me.
On topic:
eles, guards for top tier offensive and defensive support
thieves, rangers, engis, warriors for stealth/ unique party buffs/ average to great dps
mesmers for portal play
necros, poor them.

Engi / Guardian / Warri here, and I refuse to give a ranking.
why?
because it would be unfair to rank classes just by judging the individuals who happen to play these classes.
You can spend 20min in lfg to set up your perfect class-comp, just to end up with a bunch of rally bots that have more gold than their IQ is high, therefore locking you in your “meta” group for another 40min to slowly crawl from one boss to another while failing every single encounter, or you simply put “p1 / p2 /p3” in your lfg, take the first people to show up and post a honest “gg” after clearing the path in 10-20min tops.
Both happened to me and when guildys ask me what they should bring to some dungeon runs, I’ll always tell them the same: whatever you want.

If I see randoms in my group with low AP (like below 1.5k, kinda my persona magical border of being a newby or not), I always ask them if it’s their first time / if they need a short explanation for encounters. Having patience with people who did not searched the wiki for the path they want to run costs me maybe 2min more than a speedrun would take, but provides the same satisfaction (and possible new recruits for the guild).

Seriously, this thread is the core of not understanding how the game works and unless you try to break speed-run world-records there is nothing to consider a kick for but “is this person rude or not?”.

Do I have prejudices towards classes?
Hell yes, especially when it comes to Warris. Often enough these rally-bots are trying to kick random people and dare to insult others for themself ending up in downstate. Still I’ve met so many nice people who happen to play a decent warri that I give a chance to everybody.
Yes, necros dps is the lowest in PvE, but considering how kittening easy dungeons in gw2 are, I don’t care about that fact and just hope to have a decent player that knows the dungeon behind this necro, so we have a nice and relatively (compared to queue for ages in lfg (yes, that IS included in the time it takes for your group to clear the dungeon)) fast run.

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

Ignorance I guess.
Never played necro myself.
The point stays the same, I’d pick a experienced necro over a rude warri any day.

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

That actually isn’t true, I believe necros dps is ranked 4th or 5th with 25 might stacks, fury, banners, frost spirit, empowered allies, and spotter. The problem is the only things they bring to the group are aoe poison, weakness, blinds, and vulnerability. Poison isn’t needed, and other classes can do everything else while also buffing the group. Even if you went through a dungeon and killed everything, necros still wouldn’t be wanted. There is nothing they can do in a dungeon that other classes can’t do while still bringing other things to the table.

1) Guardian
2)Ele
3)Mesmer
4)A good War
5)Anything else
6)Other warriors

I absolutely hate a lot of the pug war’s attitudes. They are either way too arrogant or run 4-5 sigs and I just automatically kick them.

1) Guardian
2) Warrior
3) Mesmer
4) Elem
5) Engi/Thief

What not listed simply don’t even make it to a slightest consideration.

Depends on the dungeon. Twilight arbor? Guardian/Thief would be at the top. Arah? Guardian/Mesmer/Thief. COF? Elementalist, Mesmer, Guardian, Warrior. COE? Mesmer, Necromancer, Thief, Elementalist, Guardian, Warrior. AC? Elementalist, Warrior, Guardian, Thief. Etc. (Add Engi to every dungeon too)

I think the only one that doesn’t really have any perks of bringing it is ranger. They don’t really have any special abilities besides boosting their party’s damage with frost spirit and spotter.

Even so, I wouldn’t say there are any professions that I absolutely wouldn’t take into any dungeons. That’s just me speaking for myself though, other people might feel differently.

zapv.8051:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

That actually isn’t true, I believe necros dps is ranked 4th or 5th with 25 might stacks, fury, banners, frost spirit, empowered allies, and spotter. The problem is the only things they bring to the group are aoe poison, weakness, blinds, and vulnerability. Poison isn’t needed, and other classes can do everything else while also buffing the group. Even if you went through a dungeon and killed everything, necros still wouldn’t be wanted. There is nothing they can do in a dungeon that other classes can’t do while still bringing other things to the table.

Well, necros do have stronger condition and boon management than other classes, if they ever make content where a lot of condition cleansing and boon stripping is absolutely mandatory (e.g. constant 15 bleed stacks or boons where if you dont strip it, boss wipes party. Maybe in the raid.), necros might see more action.

1- ele
2- guard
3- thief
4- war
5- ranger/engi even. Id say Engi is better overall for vuln and might stacking but spotter and frost spirit are also the truth, with good melee dps.

Mesmer and necro I dont like in dungeons. Necros hold their own and rarely do I even worry about them but Mesmers, no way. Mesmer was my main for a year and as much as I love them, no, just no. I enjoy the reflect and such but guards can do that and with a good thief and ele I dont need to worry about projectiles at all leaving mesmer just for timewarp and their stupid greatsword

In order of what’s best IMO, Ele>Thief>War>Mes/guard>Engi/ranger>>>>>>>>>>necro

In order of what I prefer to bring…

I’m with that Engi, Engi, Engi, Engi, Engi guy lately

I love my guard/mes though, and to a lesser extend my Ele. I HATE my warrior and honestly never even brought my necro into a dungeon, it’s not worth it. My ranger is ok but not a big fan, still better than warrior though.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

Prove it. Because I think you assuming, without knowing. I have participated in DPS test in the past. Posted videos on the matter. My experience with DPS says other wise.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Well, necros do have stronger condition and boon management than other classes, if they ever make content where a lot of condition cleansing and boon stripping is absolutely mandatory (e.g. constant 15 bleed stacks or boons where if you dont strip it, boss wipes party. Maybe in the raid.), necros might see more action.

even with that, necros still wouldn’t be wanted, probably even less so. Guardains have way better group cleanse, necro only has well of power, unholy martyr, which requires major point investment into a traitline which relies on siphons, and the…crud, one sigent that transfers conditions every three seconds.

Necros will not be wanted in dungeons until they can provide real group support in the form of heals, revives, dps boosts, or stability, which they just simply do not have right now. They only have deathshroud, and that seems to only be holding them back…

To elaborate on what “TheLastNobody” said: Mesmers also seem to bring better boonstrip too. In COE, When we’re against the robot that gets buffed by the turrets I think “Oh, a place I can prove how useful I am”, then the Mesmer in the group keeps stripping the boons before my Focus 5 even finishes its’ charging time and then uses reflects. Guards also use those reflects and everyone else just aoe kills the turrets. I feel lucky when my well of corruption gets even 1 tick of usefulness.

coglin.1867:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

Prove it. Because I think you assuming, without knowing. I have participated in DPS test in the past. Posted videos on the matter. My experience with DPS says other wise.

thief
Ele
Engineer
Ranger
Warrior
Guardian
Mesmer
Necro

These are the dps rankings after the september ballance update.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2gol18/dps_ranking/

You use a thread that neither list the specific damage outputs, nor used the strongest dps output build in the claims? I am not clear how you justify anything in that link as “proof”. Your simply linking someone else’s unsupported claims. It is a very misguided attempt in my opinion.

1 Ele light ’em up and kill it from outside its aoe radius
2 guardian makes even the nubs survive for days
3 warrior you see that? yah that mob just took half its hp from a single poke
4 thief trash mobs? what are those?
5 mesmer who needs a party ill solo arah for ya buddy
6 necro need a rez bro? now about some condi clear/boons?
7 ranger ill just stand waaaaaay over here
8 engi hehe look daddy i made a turret wait daddy your leaving my turret behind whyyyyyyy

Skilled engi is very nice in dungeons but the player will likely get carpal really quickly.

In order of my preference:

Thief – since that’s all I play 90% of the time
Guard – when feeling mentaly challenged that day or when I see the party is full of nubs, it’s amazing how well a guard can keep even complete scrubs alive.
Ele – got asura ele to lvl 80 few days ago and man, it’s fun to play but with nooby party, it’s such a pita in dungeons, gets 1 shot even more often than a thief and in some dungeons, ele seems to get all the agro – 3-4 snipers in CM hitting me at once and completely ignoring rest of the party.. normal.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Skilled engi is very nice in dungeons but the player will likely get carpal really quickly.

In order of my preference:

Thief – since that’s all I play 90% of the time
Guard – when feeling mentaly challenged that day or when I see the party is full of nubs, it’s amazing how well a guard can keep even complete scrubs alive.
Ele – got asura ele to lvl 80 few days ago and man, it’s fun to play but with nooby party, it’s such a pita in dungeons, gets 1 shot even more often than a thief and in some dungeons, ele seems to get all the agro – 3-4 snipers in CM hitting me at once and completely ignoring rest of the party.. normal.

I feel your ele pain certain dungeons i drop my ele and log in on my necro because kitten my party if they cant even play frontline for me

Guardian the #1 noob PUG carrier.

Kako.1930:

Depends on the dungeon. Twilight arbor? Guardian/Thief would be at the top. Arah? Guardian/Mesmer/Thief. COF? Elementalist, Mesmer, Guardian, Warrior. COE? Mesmer, Necromancer, Thief, Elementalist, Guardian, Warrior. AC? Elementalist, Warrior, Guardian, Thief. Etc. (Add Engi to every dungeon too)

I think the only one that doesn’t really have any perks of bringing it is ranger. They don’t really have any special abilities besides boosting their party’s damage with frost spirit and spotter.

Even so, I wouldn’t say there are any professions that I absolutely wouldn’t take into any dungeons. That’s just me speaking for myself though, other people might feel differently.

It’s funny how people rate the warrior so highly, and then start bashing on the ranger (not saying you are, you’re just one of many that seem to somewhat neglect the class). They literally have the same role in an optimized dungeon party: boost the party’s DPS. Warriors have the advantage of both banners combined being a better boost than FrostSpotter.

Rangers are essential for absolute maximizing team dps. The sole reason they’re not as heavily included in the speed run meta, is simply because team dps is just a small portion of the actual run, where trash runs among other things are where your minutes are saved.

There are no dungeons where a necromancer brings anything that is “beneficial” compared to a ranger. Boon hate and other necro “perks” (that are covered by other classes) doesn’t add up for the loss of FrostSpotter and the massive vuln stack that comes with the ranger’s initial burst. Not even in CoE.

Rangers also a have higher personal dps, as well as access to migh and fury for the team, condition cleanse and reflect without changing from their meta build.

coglin.1867:

Your simply linking someone else’s unsupported claims. It is a very misguided attempt in my opinion.

That “someone” is Nike from DnT.

Lifestealer.4910:

Thief isn’t just for stealth skipping though, they have the highest dps in the game and that is made even better with elementalist ice bow equipped. Thief are also much more reliable on applying stealth and can stealth a party though long distances. Engineer can provide a decent amount of stealth at the start of a trash skip but they cannot do it midway like a thief can.

Stealth yes. Highest DPS? No way.

Lazze.9870:

coglin.1867:

Your simply linking someone else’s unsupported claims. It is a very misguided attempt in my opinion.

That “someone” is Nike from DnT.

And?

That doesn’t change the fact that the linked thread has literally 0 damage numbers posted, no comparison of damage value output (because the thread has no damage numbers), as well as no explanation of how those damage numbers that are not posted were determined.

coglin.1867:

Lazze.9870:

coglin.1867:

Your simply linking someone else’s unsupported claims. It is a very misguided attempt in my opinion.

That “someone” is Nike from DnT.

And?

That doesn’t change the fact that the linked thread has literally 0 damage numbers posted, no comparison of damage value output (because the thread has no damage numbers), as well as no explanation of how those damage numbers that are not posted were determined.

Those tests were made with meta builds, meta gear, and yes they are legit. If you don’t wanna believe it and delude yourself, go ahead, I’m not going to search for further proof. If you wanna do further research do it yourself. I just posted the truth. I couldn’t care less if you believe it or not.

I think what we need is a bit more context though. I’d imagine necro realistically in your average group would be much higher ranked. Why? because well, necros don’t do kitten other than damage. Where your guardian will have to drop out of his top damage setup to bring more utility. Your mesmer may need to trait reflects losing a lot of damage, and there is always that fickle nature of phantasm dps. My engi I have to often take off different kits to grab different utilities for the sake of the group, which is a large hit to my damage potential.

So while it’s completely conjecture, I’d expect necros typically to outdps guardians and mesmers in many cases, but those guardians/mesmers are still far more valuable to the group.

If you look at his link I think Nike does a good job showing that too, you see different builds and their rankings, warrior and guard are in all 3 categories depending on the build. I’d imagine Engi could be like that too depending on the role he’s filling in for. I’d be curious on a 2 kit engi DPS if you’re stuck having to toss a reflect or stability in for example.

if you read the reddit thread you will also see the link to the spreadsheet.

http://dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13987449-dps-estimates-for-each-professions-in-30s-battles

Ropechef.6192:

if you read the reddit thread you will also see the link to the spreadsheet.

http://dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13987449-dps-estimates-for-each-professions-in-30s-battles

This is outdated. In no way at the moment a warrior’s dps is better than a ranger’s or an engi’s

style.6173:

Lifestealer.4910:

Thief isn’t just for stealth skipping though, they have the highest dps in the game and that is made even better with elementalist ice bow equipped. Thief are also much more reliable on applying stealth and can stealth a party though long distances. Engineer can provide a decent amount of stealth at the start of a trash skip but they cannot do it midway like a thief can.

Stealth yes. Highest DPS? No way.

They do have the highest dps actually. Against any boss that they can cnd backstab off or make use of elementalist icebow, they will output the greatest dps in a group.