Guild Wars 2

Tourment on a AA. The condition that bring the condition “meta” to PvP. One of the strongest condis at the moment on a AA.

Way to go Anet. AI wasn’t enough for braindead specs we also needed this. Because Mesmer were in a terrible place to begin with.

If only ppl listened to the ppl who know how to PvP like the creators of the classes “Metas” and the players on top tier PvP to do their balance instead of just coming with this crappy ideas, that would be great.

Here video so that you see, from the best Mesmer player, how Scepter will dominate.
Because Condi Mesmer weren’t strong enough already.

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/c/4965699

There is no condi meta. It’d be nice if conditions became powerful enough to be useful, but I can’t see this happening.

The change is still bad, but mostly because Scepter AA is still going to be terrible. Its problems are hardly in the lack of raw damage, if the firing speed, handling and projectile weren’t all as bad as they are. Increase speed by ~50% instead, including projectile speed, and it might start being useful.

But really, “condition meta”? \raises eyebrow\

I don’t agree with most of Helseth’s arguments. Yes, this will make PU even easier and stronger, but I think IE will give it more than the Scepter Autos.

For everything else, you don’t really use Scepter, and if you do, it’s a nice addition, but not something supremely necessary.

If anything, it will be strong as a condition buffer for condition builds (Bleed and Burn hiding behind low duration Torment that’s constantly applied) assuming they remove Torment first.

mPascoal.4258:

One of the strongest condis at the moment on a AA.

Seriously? I’d take burn, immob, cripple, blind, chilled, fear or poison over torment, tbh.

helseths argument is..

if it buffs my spec = good.
if it buffs someone else= bad

Yep the math shows that a staff traited with IE will apply over 100% extra condition damage versus the scepter buff but that didn’t seem to bother Helseth.

The maths are here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Illusionary-Elasticity/first#post4337288

PU condi mesmer will be a plague in roaming. As if it weren’t already.