Guild Wars 2

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/October-15th-balance-skills-updates-preview

Unsteady Ground: This skill no longer damages or cripples enemies. It will now prevent foes from crossing the area, knocking them back a short distance. Lasts for 3 seconds.

Well that’s nice, any reason why a thread for just this?

emikochan.8504:

Well that’s nice, any reason why a thread for just this?

Any reason why you posted in a thread you have no interest in? Part-time moderating?

Brb creating a new thread that says the same thing as other threads with different adjectives but is special and different enough because it is my own thoughts.

Beating a deadhorse about topics that have been discussed to death is better than actually talking about a pretty significant buff to staff not discussed at all on these forums.

oZii.2864:

emikochan.8504:

Well that’s nice, any reason why a thread for just this?

Any reason why you posted in a thread you have no interest in? Part-time moderating?

Brb creating a new thread that says the same thing as other threads with different adjectives but is special and different enough because it is my own thoughts.

Beating deadhorse about topics that have been discussed to death is better than actually talking about a pretty significant buff to staff not discussed at all on these forums.

He probably posted in it because he knew no one else was interested either.

ARM.3912:

He probably posted in it because he knew no one else was interested either.

Instead of not posting and letting it get buried? E-Pride>Self control I suppose.

As long as they don’t nerf the recharge, I’ll be ok. Otherwise it will still be inferior to Guardian’s Line of Warding.

Clearly thread worthy. It’s the biggest buff ele has ever received.

It’s like ANet replaced a bag of pestilent garbage with a giant bag of money and strippers. If you’re not happy, you’re crazy.

oZii.2864:

ARM.3912:

He probably posted in it because he knew no one else was interested either.

Instead of not posting and letting it get buried? E-Pride>Self control I suppose.

Don’t forget it is also important to laugh at people using the staff, or still playing the class.

why you gotta hate on my staff eles

This is an awesome change imo. I hope they don’t increase the cooldown too much. But it’s going to be fantastic for landing my AoEs in a 1v1 fight, something staff ele desperately needs.

Also it’s going to be hilarious to see people fall over because they are used to just running through it without much of a consequence…

inb4 50s cooldown

I’d rather this be a knockdown instead of a knockback, then we can also make use of the air grandmaster trait.

I kinda wished they´d just make it a proper line skill (affects everyone going through)…but instead it´s just a kittentier line of warding…

I wish they could just add a damage component atleast so it has a chance of triggering any of the on hit/crit traits.

Nice touch now change the static field like line of warding :p

Why are people upset about it being changed to Line of Warding?

That’s seriously like…the BEST thing I could have ever wished for it. That’s super amazing. The best. Can’t get better. Top Tier. All I could ever want for Unsteady Ground.

Ryld.1340:

Why are people upset about it being changed to Line of Warding?

It´s ok change.

But then when you start to think how they could´ve done it differently.

Why knockback instead of knockdown? Knockdown would synergise air GM trait, one that´s not really used that much.
Why no damage component? Even a tiniest amount of damage would make it possible to use the skill to trigger on hit/crit effects.

…and then there´s that some of us appreciate soft cc more than hard cc (can be circumvented with stability, stun breaks, using your eyes)

knockdown would make more sense anyways seeing as it’s called unsteady ground, if i stepped on unsteady ground i would expect to get knocked down, not knocked back.

That’s an awesome change to unsteady ground. Right now i often use it when static field is on cooldown, but it doesn’t really effect much in wvw. This change makes it actually very worth it to use, even when static is not on cooldown.

Hope to see more changes to staff. I’ve heard improvements to water attunement skills and hopefully we’ll see one more blast finisher among the staff skills.

The cooldown will be something daft like 120seconds.

I could see use of this in various situations and yes, knockdown would make more sense.

Line of warding feels klunky.
Even if this would be a buff to staff eles, I still wouldn’t want it.
It just doesn’t feel polished.

well she was interested, I asked a question, it was not rhetorical. I would like to know why only that line was highlighted for this thread.

No need to be so defensive.

Did you link it because you like it? dislike it?

@Sinzer, I think they probably wouldn’t change the cooldown, or maybe even shorten it, since they are removing the damage and condition, it seems anet value the extra damage on the non-main-damage spells more than the players do (lightning flash)

@magic fly, If they changed the graphic to an actual wall of rock, I’d be ok with that :p

@retsuko, I’m still holding out for water1 being turned into a channeled beam…

sinzer.4018:

The cooldown will be something daft like 120seconds.

I could see use of this in various situations and yes, knockdown would make more sense.

80 is double Line of Warding’s cooldown, which is how Anet tends to balance to balance ele skills

emikochan.8504:

@magic fly, If they changed the graphic to an actual wall of rock, I’d be ok with that :p

It’s not the graphic. It’s the behavior.
Even if it was changed to look like a wall, why would it knock you back?
Other walls in the game don’t.
That’s why it doesn’t feel like a barrier to me, just a very strange knockback that can stunlock you if it was placed on top of you.

magic fly.2041:

That’s why it doesn’t feel like a barrier to me, just a very strange knockback that can stunlock you if it was placed on top of you.

That effect from Line of Warding is exceedingly annoying if you don’t have stability up.

emikochan.8504:

well she was interested, I asked a question, it was not rhetorical. I would like to know why only that line was highlighted for this thread.

No need to be so defensive.

Did you link it because you like it? dislike it?

@Sinzer, I think they probably wouldn’t change the cooldown, or maybe even shorten it, since they are removing the damage and condition, it seems anet value the extra damage on the non-main-damage spells more than the players do (lightning flash)

@magic fly, If they changed the graphic to an actual wall of rock, I’d be ok with that :p

@retsuko, I’m still holding out for water1 being turned into a channeled beam…

Ahh my apologies I only put that one line because that was the line that had elementalist information in it the rest involved other classes.

I really like the idea of this change.

Avatara.1042:

sinzer.4018:

The cooldown will be something daft like 120seconds.

I could see use of this in various situations and yes, knockdown would make more sense.

80 is double Line of Warding’s cooldown, which is how Anet tends to balance to balance ele skills

Yeah it will feel “very overpowered” to place a line of warding in front of a warrior that has 32k HP and can destroy you pressing 3 keys.

/sarcasm

Sounds op, nerf incoming after a few weeks.

oZii.2864:

Ahh my apologies I only put that one line because that was the line that had elementalist information in it the rest involved other classes.

That’s ok, I guess there isn’t really much there in the way of mechanical changes besides this unsteady ground, the others are just numbers it seems.

I’m starting to think if they are changing runes/sigils to be more interesting (I read that as “build defining”) it could be quite the meta change, I’d love all runes and sigils to be as build defining as perplexity.

Unless the entire mechanics behind how the conjures work is changed, they will never be viable in WvW outside of a few distinct circumstance. Why? An ele has to give up everything when they summon a weapon.

My hopes for geyser is double the duration as well as radii to match other AoEs. So far, so good with the change being made.

Changing unsteady ground to working like line of warding is pretty huge, but it is not going to stop staff ele’s from being free points to pretty much anything but uplevelled players if they are caught alone. I do really like this change though….

oZii.2864:

ARM.3912:

He probably posted in it because he knew no one else was interested either.

Instead of not posting and letting it get buried? E-Pride>Self control I suppose.

Wouldn’t that be more like E-Sympathy since he’s bumping a thread you made and not a thread he created himself?

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

Sounds reassuring, hoping it’s not only the water attunement changes that were already mentioned…

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

Thats sounds awesome can’t wait for the balance patch <3

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

That is what jon peters said and it ended up being a stupid buff to healing. So ya, I don’t expect it to be anything worth dreaming about.

Well at least we now know that the devs read our threads.

Can’t hear you over the sound of ABOUT THE SAME, do not freaking increase the cooldown. Reducing the cooldown works too.

Leak patch notes already.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

Too bad no one cares about staff, because it is almost as worthless as the elementalist class is after all your nerfs. =)

staff is my waifu

Woot! Excited for staff!

DrTenma.7249:

Leak patch notes already.

leaked a long time ago

Oh please make us able to decrease the aoe of meteor shower T_T

Or don’t.

But please take a look at lingering elements

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

Way to fill you playerbase with hope and pants kittenting terror at the same time…..“about the same”

My estimation is that it´s 40 seconds to be on par with guradian one so that the rule of every ele skill has to be ~50% kittentier than it´s counterpart on other profession stays true, just that it´s the duration that´s subpar this time, not the cd.

MyPuppy.8970:

Oh please make us able to decrease the aoe of meteor shower T_T

I can already see 5x pinpoint meteorshowers on a wvw blob….my wet dream come true.

Strang.8170:

My estimation is that it´s 40 seconds to be on par with guradian one so that the rule of every ele skill has to be ~50% kittentier than it´s counterpart on other profession stays true, just that it´s the duration that´s subpar this time, not the cd.

Don’t jinx it

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

Super excited! I’ve been playing staff ele almost since launch, I can’t wait for this buff!

Any other teasers, Roy?

I also main a staff Ele. Hope they improve staff some more, the major nerf BWE 3 was a bit harsh and has never been fixed otherwise.

Zelyhn.8069:

Or don’t.

But please take a look at lingering elements

Ling what? Tha mandatory thing that never worked?

Roy Cronacher.1576:

The recharge for unsteady ground will stay the same or about the same as it is currently. Also there are a few other nice staff changes coming in that patch as well. =)

The unsteady ground change is a good start. But do you guys realize that Ele HP/heals/damage is too low compared with other classes? For example, if you fight a warrior as an ele (balanced, standard build) you’ll have these problems:

1) Your damage is not high enough. The warrior’s hp doesnt go down.
2) Your Hp is too low (warrior can kill you in 1 stun)

So even if you greatly outplay them, you still can’t kill a warrior.

(Ofc you can give up every stat for damage, but even then the result is still weak vs all classes).

oZii.2864:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/October-15th-balance-skills-updates-preview

Unsteady Ground: This skill no longer damages or cripples enemies. It will now prevent foes from crossing the area, knocking them back a short distance. Lasts for 3 seconds.

Rename this to "Ele Patch spoiler They still suck

Seriously this is worthy of a forum post to you? If you guys make this out like it is a big deal than I dread too see the future for elementalists. Quit making me go support and make damage builds more viable and fix this broken class.