Guild Wars 2

The wiki doesn’t state that it is bugged for the 6/6 bonus anymore I know it use to state the bug.

Just checked using steady weapon in mists on heavy golem and I think it is fixed.

Double strike from thief using steal to get might with thrill of the crime trait.

Damage forumla = (skill coefficient) * power * (weapon strength)/targets armor
Double strike skill coefficient = .56
Power = 1081
Heavy Golem = 2600 armor

These are the results for each hit individually not the sum.

No might stacks: = 30

1 stack of might 5/6 = 31

Equipping 6/6 = 32

Looks like it was fixed but not in patch notes.

Just posting this in the ele forums because this would be a great rune for ele’s.

Someone can double check for me

It would still not be better than either Scholars (if your group can already maintain perma 25 stacks) or Might Durations (2x Fire, 2x Pirate, 2x Hoelbrak)(if it’s up to you to maintain all the Might).

I did a Might Durations vs. Scholars comparison at the end of my guide; the section is linked here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/The-Ele-Meta-Dungeon-Speed-Runs-2-0/first#post3112693

I can do a Strengths vs. Might Durations vs. Scholars if you like, but I can tell you right now that Scholars will be better than Strengths if you’re looking at dmg, and Might Durations will be better than Strengths if you’re looking at upkeeping Might.

Anierna.6918:

It would still not be better than either Scholars (if your group can already maintain perma 25 stacks) or Might Durations (2x Fire, 2x Pirate, 2x Hoelbrak)(if it’s up to you to maintain all the Might).

I did a Might Durations vs. Scholars comparison at the end of my guide; the section is linked here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/The-Ele-Meta-Dungeon-Speed-Runs-2-0/first#post3112693

I can do a Strengths vs. Might Durations vs. Scholars if you like, but I can tell you right now that Scholars will be better than Strengths if you’re looking at dmg, and Might Durations will be better than Strengths if you’re looking at upkeeping Might.

Could you do Strength vs Ruby Orbs? I know nothing beats Scholars and probably never will.

oZii.2864:

Could you do Strength vs Ruby Orbs? I know nothing beats Scholars and probably never will.

Post your Power/prec/critdmg and average buffs, and I could calculate it for your build.

Molch.2078:

oZii.2864:

Could you do Strength vs Ruby Orbs? I know nothing beats Scholars and probably never will.

Post your Power/prec/critdmg and average buffs, and I could calculate it for your build.

2000 power No Might, 50 crit chance, 73 crit damage, Sigil of force, 10% bonus with stone splinters.

oZii.2864:

Molch.2078:

oZii.2864:

Could you do Strength vs Ruby Orbs? I know nothing beats Scholars and probably never will.

Post your Power/prec/critdmg and average buffs, and I could calculate it for your build.

2000 power No Might, 50 crit chance, 73 crit damage, Sigil of force, 10% bonus with stone splinters.

Those are the values without rune/orb? If so, we have + 120/84/12% from orbs and + 155/20%/5% from rune of strenght.

For starters, we ignore the 4th bonus.

Effective Power for orbs: 2120 x (1 + 0.54 × 1.35) = 3665
For the rune: 2155 x ( 1 + 0.5 × 1.23) x 1.05 = 3654

Without any might, orbs are a little bit better. (0.3%) If the 4th bonus just grants one stack of might on average, the rune is already better. But since those two numbers are very close, things like Banner of Discipline, For Greater Justice, Spotter etc. would change them very fast.

I just gave some stats to get a idea how they compared. I posted on reddit that the rune is working now also. DnT Nike did some calculations for dps warrior builds said that he thinks Strength beats orbs for pretty the same reasons you said. Thanks

did they fix runes of rage too?

Zenjii.6819:

did they fix runes of rage too?

I’m hoping they are also aware of Superior Rune of Dwayna not triggering Cleansing Water. Unless this one works now and was not mentioned either.

Has anyone checked this recently by any chance? I got myself a full set of Dwayna earlier today only to read on the wiki afterwards that it was bugged and did not trigger Cleansing Water at all; even though it should in my opinion (that’s what I bought them for at any rate).

oh cool
but is this more damage than ogre?

Thank you for the test Ozii. I’ll probably start running this rune for a specific s/d build.

Zenjii.6819:

did they fix runes of rage too?

Hmm interesting I’ll go hop in game and check it out.

LightningBlaze.4913:

Thank you for the test Ozii. I’ll probably start running this rune for a specific s/d build.

np time to go test rune of rage though everything I seen on rage is as far as dps it isn’t that good at all. The kicker I think for rage is in sPvP/WvW environments it’s a bit different and could be viable especially for ele’s since it could help relieve dependence on zephyr’s perhaps.

reikken.4961:

oh cool
but is this more damage than ogre?

Good question. That would depend on the Rock Dog’s dps as well.

There were a lot of ninja fixes to ele signets that were not mentioned. Enjoy

Fuzzion.2504:

There were a lot of ninja fixes to ele signets that were not mentioned. Enjoy

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